RED_DRAGON_85

anyone?
id love to have some sweet new bright headlights

goomaan

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^And?


Try this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-...3A1|240%3A1318

rs camaro92

I called the company xenon and ordered it through there customer service. google it.

CamaromanCJ

Ok, I'd seen a rather nice setup of the Xenon systems. I was curious #1 if this is what they are and #2 if they will really work with my 1986 Camaro Z28 " http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=250429727972 " They look sweet and I am thinking about getting them. I've just gotten the car not long ago and I remember how little I could see when I had a 97RS so wanting to get the best visability I can from my beast.

RED_DRAGON_85

thats the same link i posted

rs camaro92

Dont buy those. Just look for the cheaper setup. I paid 20 bucks for the same lights off of ebay. If you read that kit only makes your lights look like HID. those are just bulbs with a blue lining around them. You will need to buy the lenses though. Then order the real xenon hid kit. It has two chrome little boxes and two bulbs with an adapter with it. I would go ahead and order the relay kit.
Heres where you can find the relay kits, just look for a phone number.http://www.xenonpros.com/?gclid=CLHV...FRBhnAodjgmZBQ

rocz

Ok reading this has made me go cross eyed. I want true HID light, is their a kit out their or what would be the best parts to peace together to get the clear headlight with HID lights?

CaliChevyLover

if u want TRUE hid light u need to spend about $300 at least on a projector optic retrofit. which is wat im gonna do

krisb410

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Start reSEARCHing, did you honestly think that 1 thread would have absolutely all the information needed?

harner

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First, get out of this thread and search. Then, if you still have issues, create a new thread elsewhere instead of hijacking this one about cheap, ebay NON-HID headlights.

Derrack

so, now that im back to reading this. my cheap non hid ebay lights acually make it so my high beams are always on a little bit unless i hit the highbeams on whitch makes only my regular headlights stay on. ive been living with it because i havnt had one single reason to turn my highbeams on in four years. i do want to fix this thoe because my highbeam light is always on on my dash. im using the stock harness. anyone figure out if i need to clip and move around the wires on the regular beams to match the pattern since they are the only ones with three wires or if the harness is nessasary? i have the regular fog lights in and only switched out the low beams with this upgrade. dont want to be messing with wires without a game plan.

KITT1983

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...ersions-2.html

no cutting of harness required

Camaro:


Hella HL66490 Adapter for 165mm Sealed Beams to H4 Lamps
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=120



Hella H6545 165mm ECE Hi-Lo H4 Conversion Headlamp Kit
H6545 165mm ECE H4 Hi-Lo Conversion Headlamp Kit.
Replaces 4652, H4656, H4666 H4668, H6545, H6545BL, and HP6545 Sealed Beams. Includes two lamps, two wiring adapters and two H4 bulbs.
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=64



Hella H4651 165mm H1 E-code Conversion High Beam Headlamp Kit
H4651 165mm H1 Conversion High Beam E-code Headlamp Kit.
Replace 4651, 4740 and 5051 sealed beams.
Kits includes two lamps and two H1 bulbs.
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4069

rs camaro92

Cut the top wire off of your harness. Problem solved

krisb410

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87cmroiroc305ho

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is there anything out there that is just the adapters, like the wire adapters plus the lenses, so i can put a different light in there. i want like whats shown above, but just the wires and the lenses. anything..... i dont know really how to search for something like that. theres nothing in any stores around here so ......

KITT1983

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...ersions-2.html

no cutting of harness required

Camaro:


Hella HL66490 Adapter for 165mm Sealed Beams to H4 Lamps
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=120 [/URL]



Hella H6545 165mm ECE Hi-Lo H4 Conversion Headlamp Kit
H6545 165mm ECE H4 Hi-Lo Conversion Headlamp Kit.
Replaces 4652, H4656, H4666 H4668, H6545, H6545BL, and HP6545 Sealed Beams. Includes two lamps, two wiring adapters and two H4 bulbs.
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=64



Hella H4651 165mm H1 E-code Conversion High Beam Headlamp Kit
H4651 165mm H1 Conversion High Beam E-code Headlamp Kit.
Replace 4651, 4740 and 5051 sealed beams.
Kits includes two lamps and two H1 bulbs.
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4069

Derrack

you sir... might be a little... tooooo helpfull.

KITT1983

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rs camaro92

Have you ever looked on ebay? Type 82-92 camaro headlights or which ever year your car is, it doesn't matter and it will give you probably 5 or 600 results of different headlight setups you can purchase. Oh and its cheap. Y'all are really making this more difficult than it has to be. This is a very simple thing to do, doesn't take a car fanatic to do this.

CaliChevyLover

someone else may have said this already but a dremel works well for trimmin the buckets. just be patient...probly get one side done then have to charge the battery and/or replace the cutoff wheel if necessary.

84 1LE

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You have a couple options.Find a Sylvania HID Xenarc kit.Which is basically plug & play.Or buy an aftermarket HID kit & fabricate projectors onto your car/kit.

krisb410

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I didn't have to trim the buckets at all. I bought the housings from Rallylights.com.

CaliChevyLover

ya cuz u have diff housins then most of everyone in this thread. u dont have the "collar" at the back.

rs camaro92

I haven't seen a complete HID kit anywhere that comes with the H4 headlight housings and the HID boxes and wiring. Just find them separate. You'll spend maybe 100 bucks total probably less and yeah I used a dremel also, made things way easier.

84 1LE

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Try a motocycle HID kit.Alot of bikes have H4 bulbs from the factory.My o4 triumph uses them & i have HIDs, its also dual headlight system.Youd still have to use those cheesy ebay laps though.

allgood

what brand name kit did you use and what lens you use also

KITT1983

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here are some HID vendors:

http://www.mobilehid.com/

http://www.lastcallracing.com/mustan...6-mustang.html

Z2EIGHT

I found a sylvania xenarc kit...for $500...

84 1LE

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Is that a new kit.Thats about what they were selling for when first available.I got mine for $167 on ebay(new), but i got lucky though.Not a bad price though.If you can afford it.Its a better system then the $100+ HID kits.Not that there's anything wrong with the other brands.

KITT1983

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link please

HarmonyCamaro

here is my thread on installing my hid kit https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...tallation.html

with the link i bought them from aswell... the pictures in that thread are with my stock beams and with the headlights messed up ( due to the fact that i needed to switch my pins around ) i have pictures of them working correctly now btw without the stock highbeams

can pm me for pics if you want

KITT1983

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thanks

cw3adkins

I had also picked up a set off of ebay for like $40 a pair. I actually had to dremel out the back of the buckets in order for them to fit correctly. With the ones that I have, if you didn't enlarge the bucket hole, the lights would stick out about a half of an inch.

ZebraBoy19

I am having problems with my lights although it is not a Camaro I am having much of the same problems.

ZebraBoy19

Where did you find the wiring diagram. I bought lights from ebay for my 1977 Buick lesabre. They did not come with the wire harness and when all the lights are connected when I turn on the headlights the high beams are on dim like a night light and when I turn on the high beams the regular lights become dim like a night light. Please help!!

ZebraBoy19

I own a 1977 Buick Lesabre. I recently bought these diamond cut euro headlights for my car. I have ran into a problem. After hooking all the lights up I turned on the headlights and the high beams are glowing dim like a night light while the regular headlights are nice and bright. Then when I turn on the high beam lights they illuminate bright but the regular headlights become dim like a night light. I have read forum after forum. I am not sure but I was wondering if this wiring harness kit (Matrix 01-133 - Matrix Upgrade Wiring Harnesses) would correct the problems that I am experiencing. I am so frustrated I want to rip out my hair.

Most forums I read are with Camaro's but my car also uses the 4 headlights like the Camaro's.

The kit that I bought did not come with any wiring harness. Everywhere I have turned has lead me to not solving the problem. Even the ebay seller treated me like I am an idiot telling me that the high beams are not dim that I am not looking at them in the right angle. I am not that stupid.

If you would like to see a video I have one if it would help for you to understand my problem. Just let me know.

Thanks,
Scott

84 1LE

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Not mine, but this is a fix it schematic.At best though its just a band aid fix.......far as im concerened.

ZebraBoy19

84 1LE,

Thanks for the response. I will give it a try. I understand the image you posted a lot better. It makes much more sense then the little three lines one did. Maybe because the adapter was drawn in. Well I am going to head outside and give it a try. I will post again with my results.

Thanks,
Scott

KITT1983

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wow there trigger try this part first

Hella HL66490 Adapter for 165mm Sealed Beams to H4 Lamps
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=120

ZebraBoy19

KITT1983,

Ok I will buy the adapter first before I do any switching of the wires. Thanks for your response as well.

Scott

ZebraBoy19

Well they are out of the adapters. They are out of stock and don't know when they will be replenished. So now what? Can I use any heavy duty adapter?

ZebraBoy19

I went ahead and ordered this:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GR...3/?image=large

If it does not fix my problem I can send it back. I am really frustrated over this and it is really becoming a hassle. I had read in the forum how this cleared up another persons problem. So I am going to give it a try.

krisb410

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Hella HL66490 Adapter for 165mm Sealed Beams to H4 Lamps
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=120

FYI: I have that adapter and I still needed to swap the wires around. I also would NOT consider this a "Bandaid" fix. Your just swaping the factory configuration to the H4 configuration. How is that a "Bandaid"?

KITT1983

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i just called the guy he says that that unit is in stock and the site is not linked with their stock pile







This one is not the extension harness that you have this one is the for the camaros with the H4656 to H4 and is not for use with the trans am with H6054.

I have the H4 extension harness for the H6054 for my trans am. it is made by KYO plug and play harness

84 1LE

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A bandaid fix is a "fix" that does NOT fix or only partially fixs an existing problem.If you have this adapter & STILL HAD TO SWAP THE WIRES AROUND.Then it did not resolve the problem.Thereby making it a bandiad fix, thats how

Those adapters & the schematic DONT always fix the issue.Thats makes it a bandaid fix!

ZebraBoy19

Just wanted to let everyone that helped me out in this forum that I got the Matrix 4-headlight wire harness today and that it worked. It works perfect. So thanks for the advice and the fix it tips.

Regards,
Scott

KITT1983

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take lots of photos of your install for us and good luck

ZebraBoy19

I am so happy it works!!

I took some pictures of the harness installed. I didnt think of taking any while I was installing it. There is a picture of the relays, then I have a couple pictures of the headlights working.

Note: To those who want to try and be funny I know my car is not a Camaro. This is a 1977 Buick Lesabre which the 1977-79 Buick lesabre's have been one of my dream cars. I also hope to own a 1982-92 Chevy Camaro convertible someday. Atleast I will have the practice on what I need for the headlights for my Camaro.

Once again thanks guys for all the help.


Scott

LS1Camcam

Hey man I would like to know where you bought the kit for your r ide, I'm retarded when it comes to finding parts like that

KITT1983

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...ersions-2.html

no cutting of harness required

Camaro:


Hella HL66490 Adapter for 165mm Sealed Beams to H4 Lamps
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=120 [/url]



Hella H6545 165mm ECE Hi-Lo H4 Conversion Headlamp Kit
H6545 165mm ECE H4 Hi-Lo Conversion Headlamp Kit.
Replaces 4652, H4656, H4666 H4668, H6545, H6545BL, and HP6545 Sealed Beams. Includes two lamps, two wiring adapters and two H4 bulbs.
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=64



Hella H4651 165mm H1 E-code Conversion High Beam Headlamp Kit
H4651 165mm H1 Conversion High Beam E-code Headlamp Kit.
Replace 4651, 4740 and 5051 sealed beams.
Kits includes two lamps and two H1 bulbs.
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4069