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Old 12-04-2005, 03:49 PM
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87 camaro hatch onto 82 Z28 swap, big problems!

well i swapped an 87 base hatch assembly onto my 82 Z28 today

the 87 one is a base model one with the third brake light unit in it

i didnt notice until it was too late how much larger and different the 87 spoiler is than the 82 one

the 87 spoiler goes forward onto/over the deck plate alot more than the 82 one does and its a bit taller too, a little different shape, couldnt notice the height/shape difference until after the swap,,

also another problem: even after swapping the latch plate from the 82 hatch onto the 87 hatch it still doesnt latch, at all, but it does shut all the way down

the 87 one was a power pul down one, the 82 is not


what is the deal ??

i cant believe all the differences

these are like two totally different camaros here..

i didnt expect everything to be so different


wow.,.,


the whole reason i swapped these was to have the third light on my 82

has anyone successfully done this ?

apparently it cannot be done


thanks for anything
Old 12-04-2005, 03:52 PM
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also how does the third light even work ??

there are no wires going into the hatch assembly, just a funky lever contact switch under the third light deck and yellow and blue wires and grounds

where in the hell does hot source come from ? thin air ?

what is the wierd switch mechanism for ?

oh wait, there was another half of the thing with contacts for the switch deal- on the 87 body tub, wasnt there?


uh oh.....
Old 12-04-2005, 04:35 PM
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You'll need to swap that contact assembly into your 82. The yellow wire generally ran to the switch on the brake pedal, but on a Camaro, you can splice it into one of the brake light power wires - not the marker, turn signal, or backup wires.
They're usually grounded through the passenger side strut, with the defroster, or through the contacts if the car does not have the defroster option.

As for the striker issue, you may only need to adjust the latch so it will catch. Where your hatch closes fully, but doesn't catch, you'll need to raise the latch assembly, but there may or may not be enough travel for it...
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welp it looks like im swapping the 82 z28 hatch back onto the 82 because im pretty sure i didnt save the contact deal from the 87 maro body tub

and besides the 87 hatch spoiler doesnt match the spoiler pieces on the quarter panels of the 82 and i didnt save the quarter panel spoiler pieces off the 87 because they looked the same- without side by side comparing

so no wi have a worthless 87 camaro third light hatch assembly i get to scrap


hum


what a waste.

all i wanted was a third light on my 82, but well thats impossible to do.,


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Not impossible, you just need some more parts
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Re: 87 camaro hatch onto 82 Z28 swap, big problems!

the 87 one was a power pul down one, the 82 is not
If you still want to pursue this, I have a puldown motor. It is for '92, don't know if '87 is any different. Got it to replace mine when it quit working, started working again next day.
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Originally posted by Petes 84Z28
Not impossible, you just need some more parts
theres no other parts i need as far as the latching goes or anything, i swapped the latch plate

as far as the third brake light goes it wont work no matter if i did get the other half of the contact switch becuase the freaking base 87 maro spoiler is larger than the 82 z28 one, doesnt match

so this swap is ruined

i wanted the 87 third light on my 72

but nope, it can and wont work no matter what


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Re: Re: 87 camaro hatch onto 82 Z28 swap, big problems!

Originally posted by Al Hasse
If you still want to pursue this, I have a puldown motor. It is for '92, don't know if '87 is any different. Got it to replace mine when it quit working, started working again next day.

no i already have one and im selling it,

why would i need one ??

sure dont need one for this swap.



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am i gonna have any issues with swapping the 82 z28 spoiler onto the 87 camaro deck plate ?


are all the camaro deck plate spiler holes the same all years ?


knowing my freakin luck that probably wont freakin work either.......


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It should swap right over; you could pop out the plastic plugs and measure the disrance between the studs/nuts to be sure.
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