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Old 04-15-2015, 07:42 PM
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I have just gotten a nice project 84 camaro.I seem to be flooding my oil with gas.not sure if carbon is sticking.I have just been trying to time it correctly and finally did.could adjusting my timing so much force gas into my oil somehow.any help is apprecaited.the camaro is running a nicely built 350 with a mild cam ,worked heads,intake,headers etc.
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Welcome to TGO!

Timing will have nothing to do with gas in oil. That's most likely a bad gasket or bad rings. Do you have the cross fire or original quadrajet still on it? The more we know about the car, motor, build etc, the more likely we're able to point you in the right direction.
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Sorry I didn't state more.the motor is a 350,with a mild cam ,victor intake,headers.I was told it had had head work done.not sure.it was running okay .I got it in a trade.I had to destab distributor.it was 180 out when I got it.it has a holley 650 on it.I did have to redo fuel lined.but there is three on inside drivers fender.I did get them hooked up,but maybe return line is not correct.what basket could be leaking.it didn't have gas smell in oil when I first got it.thanks...
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Re: carb help.

One thing you should check is fuel volume in the bowls. A blown power valve or stuck needle can allow the bowl to drain into the intake when the engine is off. Many an engine has been killed because of this, especially with older carbs.
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Re: carb help.

While setting your timing did you ever get any back fires, after fires (back fire out through top of carb), pops or flames out of the carb?

These can cause the power valve in carb to blow.

What fuel pump are you using?

The carb can only take about 6.5 psi fuel pressure. More than that and the needles start to push out of the seats and lets fuel flow.

Dirt/trash in the carb can cause needles to not fully seat.

Have you set your floats? You need to remove sight plugs and adjust float so fuel level is just at the very bottom of the sight holes.
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Thanks as matter of fact.I did get some backfires and pops of flame out the carb.that's one way I found out distributor was out 180...it did have a high volume fuel pump(machanical),but put a stock pump on it,to get running.the adjustment screws seem to be way different positions.one is almost falling out in order to get set..the car only ran for a few minutes before I noticed fuel in oil...how do check power valve etc..or just get another carb...I'll be sure to change oil first..any other help is appreciated..
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With a Holley, the power valve will be in the metering block (the piece sandwiched between the bowl and the main body.) Put something under the bowl to catch the fuel, then remove the four screws holding the bowl on. The parts may be stuck together by the gaskets, but that really is all there is to it. Unscrew the power valve from the metering block, check it with a vacuum gauge (or replace it) and reassemble everything with new gaskets.

As a side note, most Holley carbs made since 1996 have a check valve that prevents power valve blowouts. That alone was reason enough for me to spring for a new one. After all, a carburetor is alot cheaper than an engine.

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Thanks for all the help.I was gonna out a new one anyways.just curious about what happened...there's slit more questions I have about the car...it seems to be halfway built motor and tranny.it has a square open pan on bottom...it has what I think is a three speed slap stick..disc conversion in back also..it bugs me to see if it is a 4 bolt .350..I will ne putting a new carburator and msd ignition...it has iroc inside decals,and outside trim,but vin pulls up berlinetta..I have a pic or two in my gallery here...gonna set it up for my son...

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No reason to spend $300+ on a new carb. You can rebuild yours for $40 or less.
The power valve it self just screws in and costs less than 10 bucks.

4 bolt or 2 bolt main means nothing really. The stock 4 bolt main is more hype than function. 2 bolt main is fine for ANYTHING you will do with a street/strip car.

square trans pan with 16 pan bolts is a 700r4, 4 speed auto overdrive (factory installed trans for the 84)

Square pan with 1 corner angled and 13 pan bolts is a th-350 3 speed auto
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Thanks.it has a hurst trans.with stall .aren't u suppose to be able to Tao it up from low.plus its got a wierd pattern.its all back and forth.but you have to pull up then pull back then pull up again to bring all the way back into low.
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Re: carb help.

The shifter and the transmission are two items.

Hurst does not make transmissions.

From your details of the shifter gate, it don't sound like a Hurst shifter to me. That sounds like a B&M quick silver. Someone might have put a Hurst **** on it.

I had a B&M quick silver in a '79 camaro years ago.
Lift whole stick up get it out of park, at this time it will move to R, N, and D. Once in D, the stick drops back down.. Lift it up again and pull it back to 2 or 1. Once in those gears stick drops back down and now you can just push stick forward or backwards through 1, 2, D, N.
Then to get back to R or P you have to place stick in D and lift up again now you can move it forward to R and D.

Does that sound about like yours?

Take pictures and I can help you ID the parts
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Re: carb help.

I'm willing to bet that the diaphragm on the replacement pump is broken. Even if it was brand new, it's not unusual to get a bad one. A torn diaphragm allows fuel to leak directly into the crankcase. Why did you replace it?
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I replaced fuel pump with stock one to get it running again.I had to replace if.it had a broken line..could the new fuel pump be bad.if maybe the power vavle in carburator.by the way,the carburator is missing the electric choke and butterfly that goes on top of carburator.would bad plugs,wires,etc cause gas into oil.when I first got car and restabbed distr, it ran but missed out some.

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Old 05-06-2015, 10:05 AM
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Should I just flush new oil and replace power valve.or where's a good starting point.
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Originally Posted by keithcynthia
Should I just flush new oil and replace power valve.or where's a good starting point.
Replace the power valve and change the oil. If the oil gets gas in it again, I'd pull and inspect the mechanical fuel pump, like said above, I too have seen the diaphragm go bad on them and leak fuel into the oil.
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Ok.thanx.ill give it a shot..
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