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09-19-2004, 12:42 AM
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Can a 454 big block, fit easily in a thirdgen?
What kinda clearance issuaes am i looking at?
What kinda clearance issuaes am i looking at?
09-19-2004, 12:50 AM
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What happened to the "Shane got a new camaro" thread? 
I thought that had a 454 BBC in it....
I thought that had a 454 BBC in it....
09-19-2004, 12:52 AM
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it does, but i'm thinking since it doesn't have a title the easy thing todo, would be to swap itall over into my car so... i'm wondering if anything need to be notched or whatever?
09-19-2004, 12:59 AM
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lol, its not in my yard just yet, next wek i take it home when i pay the final $120 of the $200 price tag.
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The search button doesn't bite, you know
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...light=454+swap
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...light=454+swap
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...light=454+swap
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...light=454+swap
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=248225
I could go on.
Your 454 swap would be no different than ayone elses.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...light=454+swap
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...light=454+swap
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...light=454+swap
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...light=454+swap
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=248225
I could go on.
Your 454 swap would be no different than ayone elses.
09-19-2004, 01:04 AM
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ok, so it'll fit in there just fine and eveything, what about strengthening the fram. Can i just unweld the subframe connectors and use those babies or what?
Especially since i have a t-top car!
But i wont worry too much, i'll strengthen it any way possible.
Especially since i have a t-top car!
But i wont worry too much, i'll strengthen it any way possible.
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Ok then. Get a full cage that eliminates all but the driver seat.
How the heck do you unweld?
How the heck do you unweld?
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to "un-weld" you should start by taking out your trusty swiss army knife, get out that big 3 inch blade and start stabbing it continuosly until it comes undone.
Why would you want to take your subframe connectors out? They're not bad in any scenario...
Think about your suspension if anything man... gotta put that power to the ground.
Why would you want to take your subframe connectors out? They're not bad in any scenario...
Think about your suspension if anything man... gotta put that power to the ground.
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n/m i understand why you want to "un-weld" the sub frame connectors, lol you want to put the ones from the 454 big block car onto yours. 
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If you reaaally wanted to take those out you could take out your MIG welder and just burn them out... but you'd probably burn up the inside of the car, and more than likely take out part of the unibody frame.
.If you reaaally wanted to take those out you could take out your MIG welder and just burn them out... but you'd probably burn up the inside of the car, and more than likely take out part of the unibody frame.
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just use an angle grinder with a cutting disk
if you dont have one they come in handy
and can be picked up for cheap
if you dont have one they come in handy
and can be picked up for cheap
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I don't think your ducks are in a row.
It would be far easier and cheaper to go through the titling process than to drop a 454 into your car. If you're willing to modify your car just to accomodate a 454, rather than go through a titling process, then yea....Because subframes will be a concern yes, but so will your suspension, your rear setup, and your transmission.
It would be far easier and cheaper to go through the titling process than to drop a 454 into your car. If you're willing to modify your car just to accomodate a 454, rather than go through a titling process, then yea....Because subframes will be a concern yes, but so will your suspension, your rear setup, and your transmission.
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i'm gonna swap it all over d00ds, not just the engine who does that?
But as soon as i take pickup of the car next week i'll have pics.
But as soon as i take pickup of the car next week i'll have pics.
09-19-2004, 09:08 PM
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Yeah you and me both. I am not going to call BS yet, because hey, sometimes things do happen. But looking back on history, and this story..............
Not only that, if you have a 454 in a thirdgen, why would you ask
Sounds just a little suspicious to me. No one is going to sell a thirdgen with 2 ft wide tires and a 454 that can pull wheelies for 200 bucks anyway. I better quit typing before I accidently call BS.
Not only that, if you have a 454 in a thirdgen, why would you ask
Can a 454 big block, fit easily in a thirdgen?
What kinda clearance issuaes am i looking at?
What kinda clearance issuaes am i looking at?
09-19-2004, 09:31 PM
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well you never know someone could be selling a 454 powered thirdgen for $200 bucks .....sure .....and monkeys might fly out of my butt......LMAO.......i was thinking about this earlier and if you have this kind of car sitting in your yard and you cant get a title on it then why would you sell it for $200 bucks anyway...
you can part out the car and get a couple grand easy with the stuff the car supposedly has in it ....hmmm sounds kinda fishy and
like to me ..LOL...
or maybe he misunderstood him and the price is $2200 dollars not $200 dollars...LMAO
but regardless if your supposedly getting this car with a bigblock in it why would as stated above ask how hard it is to put a big block into a thirdgen when you will have a car with it in it anyway all you have to do is unbolt everything from one car and transfer it to the other .........
regardless i think this is another one of those threads where someone thought it would be neet to be able to post about somthing they read in a magazine or saw at a show or somthing else ..
prove me wrong and post pics of you and the car with the bigblock in it and ill personally appologize but i dont see this being a ligitamate deal and dont beleive the first car even exsists .....
you can part out the car and get a couple grand easy with the stuff the car supposedly has in it ....hmmm sounds kinda fishy and
like to me ..LOL...or maybe he misunderstood him and the price is $2200 dollars not $200 dollars...LMAO
but regardless if your supposedly getting this car with a bigblock in it why would as stated above ask how hard it is to put a big block into a thirdgen when you will have a car with it in it anyway all you have to do is unbolt everything from one car and transfer it to the other .........
regardless i think this is another one of those threads where someone thought it would be neet to be able to post about somthing they read in a magazine or saw at a show or somthing else ..
prove me wrong and post pics of you and the car with the bigblock in it and ill personally appologize but i dont see this being a ligitamate deal and dont beleive the first car even exsists .....
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Shane............... (looks up at the car g0ds and shakes head)......I am going to get into this again just for the benefit of the new people here that don't know your history of because once again you are wasting everybody’s time!
First off ........(looks up again, scratches head and think to himself theres so much I could start with hmmmm.......)well so I don't waste too much of my time, just read this post from the club you claimed to be a member of back in June which from this current post about your "new car "we see was total and as far as the rest I think the guys from the club you really “don't belong to” cover it all more of Shanes B.S.
lol, I also think this quote from someone that is from "your" club says it all
because once again you are wasting everybody’s time!First off ........(looks up again, scratches head and think to himself theres so much I could start with hmmmm.......)well so I don't waste too much of my time, just read this post from the club you claimed to be a member of back in June
and as far as the rest I think the guys from the club you really “don't belong to” cover it all more of Shanes B.S. lol, I also think this quote from someone that is from "your" club says it all
I fear I have to jump in here again because Shane is not "responding to his mental conditioning".
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Originally posted by flrtin1
Shane............... (looks up at the car g0ds and shakes head)......I am going to get into this again just for the benefit of the new people here that don't know your history of because once again you are wasting everybody’s time!
First off ........(looks up again, scratches head and think to himself theres so much I could start with hmmmm.......)well so I don't waste too much of my time, just read this post from the club you claimed to be a member of back in June which from this current post about your "new car "we see was total and as far as the rest I think the guys from the club you really “don't belong to” cover it all more of Shanes B.S.
lol, I also think this quote from someone that is from "your" club says it all
Shane............... (looks up at the car g0ds and shakes head)......I am going to get into this again just for the benefit of the new people here that don't know your history of
because once again you are wasting everybody’s time!First off ........(looks up again, scratches head and think to himself theres so much I could start with hmmmm.......)well so I don't waste too much of my time, just read this post from the club you claimed to be a member of back in June which from this current post about your "new car "we see was total
and as far as the rest I think the guys from the club you really “don't belong to” cover it all more of Shanes B.S. lol, I also think this quote from someone that is from "your" club says it all
i saw this in one of the posts on the other board and couldnt help myself here it is ...it was a whole list of things .....but here is just one
"Fourth, get a clue Shane. You have no idea how far over your head you're about to go if you buy that car. All you're gonna do is end up with two non-running cars in the driveway that you don't even own. "
if that doesnt wrap it all up nice and neat .....LMAO...
09-20-2004, 04:24 PM
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I feel sorry for this kid, but he does it all to himself. He makes everyone so mad at him because of his questions and his "I'll ask for advise, but never use it" mentality.
I just don't get it.
Shane, most of us want to help ya, but you're really making it hard for us....
My personal fave: "Fifth, do you think anyone is going to loan you the expensive equipment you need for this project given how well you haven't gotten along with this club until now?"
I just don't get it.
Shane, most of us want to help ya, but you're really making it hard for us....
My personal fave: "Fifth, do you think anyone is going to loan you the expensive equipment you need for this project given how well you haven't gotten along with this club until now?"
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Just going to make a useful post here ...
The engine itself will drop in fine. Its stuff like headers and accessories that cause the most problems. Sometimes the hood room (or lack of usually) can cause problems too.
...The engine itself will drop in fine. Its stuff like headers and accessories that cause the most problems. Sometimes the hood room (or lack of usually) can cause problems too.
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I'm surprised that no one on that site, or this one has noticed what he wrote there...
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i'm not gonna do it illegally d00ds. my mom wont let me do that. I'll just iunno, get a loan from my parents to help me find a way to get the title.someone out there has claim on this car
I'm thinking about just buying it, and iunno... i want the parts in my car, cause all the camaros have the big engines, never the firebirds, so i want it in mine. Iunno, its s hard decision.
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i'm not gonna do it illegally d00ds. my mom wont let me do that. I'll just iunno, get a loan from my parents to help me find a way to get the title.someone out there has claim on this car
I'm thinking about just buying it, and iunno... i want the parts in my car, cause all the camaros have the big engines, never the firebirds, so i want it in mine. Iunno, its s hard decision.
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your real daddy wouldnt happen to be John Kerry would he? You seem to flip flop your story a lot 
. Anyways, even if this is legit, your 200 dollar car obviously isnt. Sure I've been on a tight budget before where I couldnt afford 200 dollars at the drop of a hat, still am, but it doesnt even sound like you have a job of your own man.
If you cannot afford the 30 dollars for the membership to river city f-bodys, then you certainly cant afford the 30 dollars to fill up your tank of gas every 50 miles on your 200 dollar car.
Start thinking a bit more realistically man.
. Anyways, even if this is legit, your 200 dollar car obviously isnt. Sure I've been on a tight budget before where I couldnt afford 200 dollars at the drop of a hat, still am, but it doesnt even sound like you have a job of your own man. If you cannot afford the 30 dollars for the membership to river city f-bodys, then you certainly cant afford the 30 dollars to fill up your tank of gas every 50 miles on your 200 dollar car.
Start thinking a bit more realistically man.
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SHANE are you still there man we need a response to this
hello , hello , hello.......anybody there...
i guess hes out driving his bigblock with 2 foot wide tires now...oh well hopefully he gets back to us soon im curious to know when hes getting his awsome cool car d00ds....LOL
hello , hello , hello.......anybody there...
i guess hes out driving his bigblock with 2 foot wide tires now...oh well hopefully he gets back to us soon im curious to know when hes getting his awsome cool car d00ds....LOL
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"ti did a wheelie when the guy floored it down the road so its perfect" Oh man thats a funny quote... A car pulling the wheels on a dusty dirty street just by "flooring it"!?
C'mon man, quit living in fantasy land. Its cool to dream of what you'd like to do to your car - I did for 3 years non-stop but when you start attempting to make your FANTASIES a REALITY thats literally insane. You can't seem to comprehend the fact that nobody around here even likes you ...why you may ask? because of BS posts like this. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and GET REAL!
...Actually, all this time I've been reading your wonderful posts I'm HOPING you're some normal, sensible guy who is just playing one big joke on everyone and laughing along with us the entire time. If thats true, I thank you for the entertainment but if you're serious ...oh my
C'mon man, quit living in fantasy land. Its cool to dream of what you'd like to do to your car - I did for 3 years non-stop but when you start attempting to make your FANTASIES a REALITY thats literally insane. You can't seem to comprehend the fact that nobody around here even likes you ...why you may ask? because of BS posts like this. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and GET REAL!
...Actually, all this time I've been reading your wonderful posts I'm HOPING you're some normal, sensible guy who is just playing one big joke on everyone and laughing along with us the entire time. If thats true, I thank you for the entertainment but if you're serious ...oh my
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oh man i hope shane isnt stuck under an bigblock camaro and one of the wheels fell on him that would make him 2 feet wide ...OH NO...!!!!!!!
i hope he responds back here so we know what happened to his great deal
i hope he responds back here so we know what happened to his great deal
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hmmmmmm seems our fine furry friend (and I use the term fur loosely) may be moving to your neck of the woods..... sorta......going to Mo. so hes says lol maybe you and your brother can take him under your wing 
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hmmmmmm seems our fine furry friend (and I use the term fur loosely) may be moving to your neck of the woods..... sorta......going to Mo. so hes says lol maybe you and your brother can take him under your wing
hmmmmmm seems our fine furry friend (and I use the term fur loosely) may be moving to your neck of the woods..... sorta......going to Mo. so hes says lol maybe you and your brother can take him under your wing
you trying to insinuate something there pard..?????
LMAO.....send him on over here to illinois ill show him how a big block fits into a thirdgen....
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you trying to insinuate something there pard..?????
Just that he will live closer to you soon but to me also
maybe he will show up in Jacksonville this weekend with his BB and show us all his 2 foot high wheelies
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Originally posted by flrtin1
LOL no not by any means.
Just that he will live closer to you soon but to me also
maybe he will show up in Jacksonville this weekend with his BB and show us all his 2 foot high wheelies
LOL no not by any means.
Just that he will live closer to you soon but to me also
maybe he will show up in Jacksonville this weekend with his BB and show us all his 2 foot high wheelies
i hope he does i havent seen a street car do a 2 foot wheelie in a long time....LOL....
our 73 split bumper that we used to have would do a "wheelie" but it also had 500+hp and some serious cash in it .....not that it would pull a 2 footer...but i know it got em off the ground 10 inches and that about makes ya crap your drawers ...LMAO.....especially when your not expecting it to do it on the road ....
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do you guys live in jacksonville?
I'm gonna be here until wednesday or friday next week.
I'm moving to st. louis, missouri.
And how did you guys know?
I'm gonna be here until wednesday or friday next week.
I'm moving to st. louis, missouri.
And how did you guys know?
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so therefor, the big block thirdgen is now for sale.
HE'll take $200 from anyone, pm me if you want contact info.
shane
HE'll take $200 from anyone, pm me if you want contact info.
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inever actually took it home, but i can take pics of it for you guys if anyone is interested in buying it. I'd rather an avid enthusiast get this cat then some stupid ideot who will ruin it.
I will have to ask israel if i can give away the number he has to you guys first but he'll set you guys up.
The car is for real and its $200, so beware to eat your words.
I will have to ask israel if i can give away the number he has to you guys first but he'll set you guys up.
The car is for real and its $200, so beware to eat your words.
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Originally posted by therckid
do you guys live in jacksonville?
I'm gonna be here until wednesday or friday next week.
I'm moving to st. louis, missouri.
And how did you guys know?
do you guys live in jacksonville?
I'm gonna be here until wednesday or friday next week.
I'm moving to st. louis, missouri.
And how did you guys know?
and what part of st.louis are you moving to ???
i only live about half an hour from the arch myself so if your close enough we will have to get together ......
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i'm moving next week sometime, we will meet up, i am gonna be in st. ann actually but i consider it st. louis.
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Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
sounds good start a thread in the midwest message board when you move there and let every one know your in our area ......
youll have to meet us somewhere ill have to have my brother bring his camaro over.
youll have to meet us somewhere ill have to have my brother bring his camaro over.
09-24-2004, 10:11 PM
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Car: Camaro Z281991 Engine: 5.7L/350 TPI Transmission: TH700R4 ··································· Car: Acura CL 1998
Engine: 3.0L/183
Transmission: 4 spd auto/OD
I dont get it 
, why Anyone all of a sudden, why not YOU ?
It went from - i'm gonna swap it all over d00ds, not just the engine who does that?
To - so therefor, the big block thirdgen is now for sale.
HE'll take $200 from anyone, pm me if you want contact info.
Your not gonna let anyone get it right?
As specially for 200$, Anyone would have gotten it already.
, why Anyone all of a sudden, why not YOU ?It went from - i'm gonna swap it all over d00ds, not just the engine who does that?
To - so therefor, the big block thirdgen is now for sale.
HE'll take $200 from anyone, pm me if you want contact info.
Your not gonna let anyone get it right?
As specially for 200$, Anyone would have gotten it already.
09-24-2004, 10:42 PM
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Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
i sent a pm to him in hopes i get the number to this car i want a race car to run at the track only so this would be perfect for me hopefully its really a car and not a figment of his imagination...LMAO
09-24-2004, 11:03 PM
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Car: 1986 Trans Am
Engine: 305 LB9 TPI
Transmission: 700-R4
the car is for sale and is real, i'll ask israel if i can give his number away to you guys tomorow. so..., yeah
09-24-2004, 11:05 PM
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Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
cool i sent ya pm
09-25-2004, 09:28 AM
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Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
Originally posted by ede
there is so much in this thread i'm suprised it's still open or anyone actually thinks there's a shread of truth in anything the d00d has posted
there is so much
in this thread i'm suprised it's still open or anyone actually thinks there's a shread of truth in anything the d00d has posted
09-25-2004, 05:59 PM
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Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
yep sounds like sometime next week he is moving our way .....
09-25-2004, 11:18 PM
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Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
well wheres the info on this car man