Wesly_66

Anybody tried dougs headers on a third gen and had issues? I read lots of reviews before I bought them and all were good.
Went to install and they hit just about everything on the passenger side. And no way of installing my mini starter even. Any help is appreciated. 85 camaro sbc, 700r4. New motor mounts

no new tires

The prob.

<---has Doug LTs, no problems. Make sure you move the knck sensor to the drivers side and DON'T CUT THE A ARM MOUNT!

I learned that lesson the HARD WAY....

Wesly_66

New motor mounts is not my problem. They are factory replacement mounts. Original ones we're really bad. You didn't have any problems with your starter? I had to dent 2 of my primaries a little bit. Just to get them to somewhat seat straight on the head. Still isn't good. I don't believe there is any chance to get them to fit right without completely ruining the header.

gt4373

That's Why I Stay Away From Headers,They Never Fit Right,You Always Have To Either Modify Them Or Anything In Their Way.

Wesly_66

Shouldn't be that way. Everybody else seems to get these to fit. But mine there is no way.

Lurbie

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I have the Doug's D3321 LTs and they seem to fit my 89 Camaro pretty well, though not perfect. I read all 9 pages of the Hooker 2210 thread and you can basically apply those lessons to our headers. (I read somewhere that Doug's design went with Doug to Hooker after his divorce and that's why they are so similar.)
Anyway, I am in the process of installing a new motor so I've put new stock motor mounts in, I have AFR heads so I've read that moves the headers slightly. In my first attempt to install the motor and headers I found the #2 (or maybe #4, I forget now) primary tube contacting the k-member. There was a nasty weld booger on the k-member so I pulled the motor back out and cleaned up that weld area, I have plenty of clearance now, but I've always had great clearance at the rear LCA bracket, though you'll read that plenty of people have the clearance issue at the LCA bracket. I am not able to remove either side from underneath the car, but since I'm taking the motor in and out, it was a lot easier for me to just do that, but I'll admit a lot of things are out of the engine compartment right now.
I had also read about people having problems getting the starter in and out, but I installed the headers on the engine stand and I can easily get the mini starter in and out without trouble. If you just have to clearance / grind a little on something, I wouldn't be worried, plenty of members have done it, but I would be cautious on how much you take off the LCA bracket, I've heard of guys having to take off 3/4" or more, that's too much IMO.

MSgt Luttrell

I have a set of Doug's Long Tube Headers on my '86 IROC and they fit like a glove, with out any clearance problems anywhere. I can easily remove and replace my mini starter with them bolted on.

Wesly_66

Interesting. My drivers side fit awesome. But passenger side is a different story. I think they screwed up on the passenger side one. I'm back this weekend and I will make them fit

no new tires

NEVER CUT OR GRIND --->ANY<--- material from the a-arm mount!

I didn't read the part about removing the knock sensor from the pass side, over to the driver side. I cut the material from the rear a-arm bolt, almost up to the bolt. ! day I was in a "hit and run". I was knocked in to a fire hydrant and the a-arm pushed the bolt THREW THE MOUNT.

I stacked up $1000 + parts and bribed my buddy after 4+ MONTHS of him ducking and dodging me to take my work order.
$1600, +$200 in discounted cab rides to my second job, walking 20+ miles back and worth to my day job, 2 weeks of having the car at his shop and him fighting it tooth & nail EVERY step of the way (all bolts locked up, frame bent, ect.) for 1.5 of those weeks on his lift, I have the car back.

My laptop is broke but when I buy a new 1 ill make a thread about it and post all the nasty pics.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!


No problems with the starter.

Wesly_66

Finally had some time Friday and Saturday to finish the motor. Got the headers clearanced. And found out that you can clock the starter to gain clearance. So all is good. But I wouldnt recommend dougs headers
Video on YouTube of my car with new exhaust. Don't mind the paint or interior as the car is a work in progress

seiplentz

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Sounds nasty!!! nice job. What muffler are you running?

Wesly_66

Thanks. I think it turned out good. Sounds way better in person. I using 3.5" flo pro twisters.