my HSR strut tower brace
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my HSR strut tower brace
1.5"x.095" tubing, 1/4" thick mounting plates, bolted with 2 (each side) 3/8" grade 8 bolts with nylon locking nuts. TIG welded entirely, knotched piece is reinforced with 1/8" thick plate. painted with POR15.
clears easily thank god for the Ram Air II hood. its solid as a rock, hitting it with your hand it feels like ur smacking a roll bar. thanks everyone for the input!
clears easily thank god for the Ram Air II hood. its solid as a rock, hitting it with your hand it feels like ur smacking a roll bar. thanks everyone for the input!
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sweet! welds are lookin good.
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Nice fab work, but.... how will you ever adjust the camber? Because of the shape of the base of each end (how it fills in the cutout from the strut mount) moving the strut mount side to side for camber adjustment will be impossible. I sure you hope you have your camber set where you want it. lol
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Nice fab work, but.... how will you ever adjust the camber? Because of the shape of the base of each end (how it fills in the cutout from the strut mount) moving the strut mount side to side for camber adjustment will be impossible. I sure you hope you have your camber set where you want it. lol
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NICE welds, Looks custom work always makes a car better than the rest!
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Nice job. I'm liking the approach on the RA scoop too. I'm even more interested though in your pulley setup. I have a serp setup that I only have the alternator,water pump, power steering and crank to wrap with a belt. I'm using 2 delete pullies for the AIR pump and AC.
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I'm pretty sure that's a V-belt setup that he's using. What's nice about the V-belt is that if you don't want an accessory you can just unbolt it and leave the belt off. That's what I did with my AC and air pump. No delete pulleys are needed. I think I'm actually only using 2 belts now that the AC and air pump are gone. I like this way more then the serp setup just because of its simplicity.
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racing geek, I'm 99.99% sure in those photos above its a serp setup. I can see the ribs on the pullies. I agree though that v-belt has some advantages. If I were to eliminate pullies I'd have to cross my fingers that a belt length exists that I could use.
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thanks guys. i did change up the springs in the front end from sportlines to cut moog 5664s... i should have about 850lbin front springs if my calc is right. stock was 740 or something and i cut off 3/4 coil for a 1.5" drop. its not as low as my sportlines but i hope it will settle about another 1/2" or so... it prob wont bc i took a good bit of weight off the front end, well see... if not i will hack another 1/4 off. It was however aligned etc before the spring change. im sure im not far off but i can always trim the bracket if need be.
if it needs aligning ill be making adjustments to the STB... most likely slotting the mounting holes so it can be adjusted. but i doubt id have any issues.
racing geek is right, its a V belt system. my Alt(stock used a 5 or 6 rib belt) so that is a smaller than stock pully on the alt due to underdrive pully on the crank (the underdrive pulley lowered the alt too much, its now sumwhat acceptable) the only other thing on the engine is the powersteering and waterpump. im only using 2 belts, the alt drives the waterpump and PS has own Vbelt. i dnt like serpetine belt systems they are a hassle... and u can bet YOUR ARS! that ill be pulling the PS belt off at the track if i need a tenth or so lol. Thats what i love about the Vbelt system. ive deleted the smog pump, AC, charcol canister etc so theres alot of room around the engine and whats prob causing the confusion is the alt pulley and the aftermarket alt brackets (stock TPI doesnt fit the HSR)
if it needs aligning ill be making adjustments to the STB... most likely slotting the mounting holes so it can be adjusted. but i doubt id have any issues.
racing geek is right, its a V belt system. my Alt(stock used a 5 or 6 rib belt) so that is a smaller than stock pully on the alt due to underdrive pully on the crank (the underdrive pulley lowered the alt too much, its now sumwhat acceptable) the only other thing on the engine is the powersteering and waterpump. im only using 2 belts, the alt drives the waterpump and PS has own Vbelt. i dnt like serpetine belt systems they are a hassle... and u can bet YOUR ARS! that ill be pulling the PS belt off at the track if i need a tenth or so lol. Thats what i love about the Vbelt system. ive deleted the smog pump, AC, charcol canister etc so theres alot of room around the engine and whats prob causing the confusion is the alt pulley and the aftermarket alt brackets (stock TPI doesnt fit the HSR)
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Where did you get that rate from? That would be way higher than even a WS6 spring.
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thanks guys. i did change up the springs in the front end from sportlines to cut moog 5664s... i should have about 850lbin front springs if my calc is right. stock was 740 or something and i cut off 3/4 coil for a 1.5" drop. its not as low as my sportlines but i hope it will settle about another 1/2" or so... it prob wont bc i took a good bit of weight off the front end, well see... if not i will hack another 1/4 off. It was however aligned etc before the spring change. im sure im not far off but i can always trim the bracket if need be.
if it needs aligning ill be making adjustments to the STB... most likely slotting the mounting holes so it can be adjusted. but i doubt id have any issues.
racing geek is right, its a V belt system. my Alt(stock used a 5 or 6 rib belt) so that is a smaller than stock pully on the alt due to underdrive pully on the crank (the underdrive pulley lowered the alt too much, its now sumwhat acceptable) the only other thing on the engine is the powersteering and waterpump. im only using 2 belts, the alt drives the waterpump and PS has own Vbelt. i dnt like serpetine belt systems they are a hassle... and u can bet YOUR ARS! that ill be pulling the PS belt off at the track if i need a tenth or so lol. Thats what i love about the Vbelt system. ive deleted the smog pump, AC, charcol canister etc so theres alot of room around the engine and whats prob causing the confusion is the alt pulley and the aftermarket alt brackets (stock TPI doesnt fit the HSR)
if it needs aligning ill be making adjustments to the STB... most likely slotting the mounting holes so it can be adjusted. but i doubt id have any issues.
racing geek is right, its a V belt system. my Alt(stock used a 5 or 6 rib belt) so that is a smaller than stock pully on the alt due to underdrive pully on the crank (the underdrive pulley lowered the alt too much, its now sumwhat acceptable) the only other thing on the engine is the powersteering and waterpump. im only using 2 belts, the alt drives the waterpump and PS has own Vbelt. i dnt like serpetine belt systems they are a hassle... and u can bet YOUR ARS! that ill be pulling the PS belt off at the track if i need a tenth or so lol. Thats what i love about the Vbelt system. ive deleted the smog pump, AC, charcol canister etc so theres alot of room around the engine and whats prob causing the confusion is the alt pulley and the aftermarket alt brackets (stock TPI doesnt fit the HSR)
The thirdgen's were built in a time when GM was phasing out the V-belt for the serpentine belt. I can't remember what years had what, but the early ones had only a v-belt, the middle-ish ones had a v-belt except one mini "serpentine" belt for the alternator going off the crank (i think it was the crank...), and the later ones had a full serpentine belt setup. I'm thinking about pulling the charcoal canister this winter when the motor comes out. I would ask what was all involved in that but it would get this thread even more off track.
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heres one chart with the 5662-5664 rates on it.
http://jeffd.50megs.com/Moog_Spring_Page.htm
go to sonix post #19. moog 5664 is 748lbin, 5662/WS6 is 707lbin.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...og-5660-a.html
racing geek.... i see what your saying i would slot them to allow forward to back movement... being only a 2pt brace this would allow it to slide forward for more clearance. i havent really thought about it but i would and could also cut the mounting plates so they didnt fit into the strut bearing caps. im not really worried about it, it was aligned before and i will have the same ride height, i didnt even change the tierods or there lengths or anything, this was all upgraded a yr ago and is all preset and unchanged since the alignment.
yes the alt is a small serpintine system... it loops around the crank/waterpump and alt. all the other belts are actually Vbelts where the alt is a 5-6rib belt.
took the car out for its first drive and i have to say it rides like its on rails, SFC, wonderbar, STB, poly everything, and hand made LCA, jester Tq arm, and UMI panhard bar, 8pt cage, and the cut moog 5664/5665 springs is AMAZING! never driven a car this solid before, no squeeks or rattles nothing!!! its even stiffer than my bros full framed 68 vette i think. sooo nice just me and the engine but i did seem to snap a rocker stud and cause engine vibrations and lots of blue smoke out the exhaust wat the cr@pppppppppp!
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Nice welds! Can you teach me to do that, lol. You are in North Jersey? I am in South Jersey.
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yea no prob lol... took me maybe 2 weeks to learn how to TIG, ive known how to MIG taught myself a few yrs ago, im only 25 so ill be TIG'in for a long time. next i want to do is aluminum but my TIG only is DC.
yea north jerz, west orange like 15min from NYC. where down south?
yea north jerz, west orange like 15min from NYC. where down south?
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Williamstown-08094. If you are traveling south, it is after Cherry Hill, but before Vineland.
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