ghettocruiser

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Looking good! Congrats on the baby girl! I just had my first kid Oct 1st...so I know what thats like haha. If I was actively working on my car, I think it would be on hold even now three months later. Crazy how fast the time goes when your hands are full.

Good luck on the progress!

J.

ta84-355

This is a very nice and extensive build, I like your efforts a lot.

King NothingSS

subscribing!!!!!

dhirocz

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How did you go about establishing the correct location of the frame rails before cutting and welding it all in?

Im planning my swap, but i want to integrate the frame rails in the rear as well and remove the rear seat area entirely. I want to use c5 fuel tanks. It looks in the front that the c5 frame was notched to overlap the thirdgen front rails, then was brought down and welded to the existing metal.

86_irocz-28

any updates on this?

88blackiroc

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Just read this whole thread.. and awesome!
and ghettocruiser: civette was the first car that came to mind when I started reading this build. May not be as popular but for sure very cool. This is one of those iconic builds such as the diseal thirdgen and the ecotech one. If only I had the garage, time, and money
Updates soon please!

marolf101x

Frame Placement:
Placing the frame in the correct spot is not that difficult, it just takes patience and a lot of time.
I started by first measuring the stock 3rd gen and sketching it out on paper (if I had 3D models of the 3rd gen I would have done it on the computer, as I have the vette CAD, but GM didn't switch from design on paper to CAD until around 1996 from what I understand.) I determined the C5 frame would actually fit without major modification so I started cutting the 92 a little at a time. The frame was centered in the car and the wheels were centered in the wheel well, the rest fell wherever it would and I worked around it.

Lots of cutting and fitting later and I had the C5 frame tacked into place. As you can see in this pic the C5 rails were much higher on the top side than the 92, so I cut and fit the C5 so the rails "stepped down" to the height of the 92 rails:


The rear rails were slid into the rocker panel area and welded in with some filler pieces. I don't have a good pic of this, but when I flip the car upside down for finishing I'll snag some pics.
I also made a frame out of 2x4 steel that is welded into the rockers and runs back to pick up the rear rails.

marolf101x

The entire dash and support system was cut out of the 92 and the C5 firewall was slid in place:


The firewall had to be raised slightly, but not so much to throw all the steering and brake linkages out of whack.
The 92 was actually wider between the A pillars than the C5, so I had to make some filler panels, which you can see in the above pic.

I then had to fabricate a metal dash insert to go from the 92 metal to the C5 dash:


Good luck with fitting the whole vette under the 3rd gen. I know how much work it is, so be prepared.

The kicker of this whole deal is that I plan to have only about $5K in the whole deal, including the car. Now, mind you I had all the parts left over from my 2001 Z06 (which I purchased for my 68 Camaro project) so I didn't add that into the overall price.

I'm a little stuck at the moment as I need a turbo. I was planning on using a Holset off a Dodge truck as I had one found for $50, but my deal fell through on that. I'm building around the turbo while I'm at this stage, but don't plan on running much boost to begin with. Once I have the car all sorted it's easier to "turn up the wick" with a better turbo than it is to go back and cut everything up to install the whole turbo kit.

Anyone got a hairdryer sitting around they need to get rid of?

tylercamaro

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did you get any more interior or rear end in or anything or are you just waiting for turbo?

BADNBLK

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Such a cool project! If it ends up anything like the rest of RideTech's stuff you have been involved with this will be one hell of a DD Haha!

So you need to R&D some of the Ridetech adjustable shocks & or coil overs for a bolt on application for our 3rd gens

marolf101x

Well, it' won't be nearly as nice as the company cars, I just don't have that much money! (If you added up all the parts and everything in the Velocity 68 Camaro it had over $200K in it).

With around 30 R&D vehicles I don't really need any more R&D candidates, LOL! I will let loose of a small secret, however, I am working on struts at the moment that will be pretty damn nice. Since I have a soft spot for 3rd gens I'm pushing to pay a little more attention to these cars.

BADNBLK

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Tell Brett you want ride the front of the wave and be on the forefront of the 3rd gen resurgance (sp). There is rising number of high dollar builds going on with 3rd gens now... 3rd gens may be the new 2nd gens soon enough haha!

Yeah and let Brett know I would be happy to let you guys beat on mine for a Tiger cage and Resi struts/shocks

Ok back to YOUR build!

88blackiroc

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I think we deserve a update on the progess youve been making

mh82camaro

man...someone call hot rod or camaro performer magazine....cause...d**n...this is going to be one bad car. you got some great skills dude...going to be awesome...subcribing

King NothingSS

i'm just anxiously waiting for the final moment!!!

marolf101x

I'll get some pics tonight. I decided the stock crap up front had to go. Now the only thing left is a small amount of steel around the radiator.

marolf101x

Well, I'm a day late. . .but anyway, here are a few pics of the now very absent front end:

You can see the upper intercooler mounts in the 1st and 3rd images. I'm going to build a tubular bumper cover support and tie the lower mount into that.

Steel Armadillo

What size turbo you looking for?

marolf101x

Turbo Size: anything that'll run in front of a stock LS1 and not cost much.
Honestly, it doesn't have to make much boost. The plan is to get this thing together and drive it for a while. Then fix what I don't like and put a "real" turbo on it and have some fun.

It's main purpose is to drive 4 miles to work and 4 miles home everyday, so it doesn't need much at this point.

dctrouant1995

And use a tank of gas getting there and a tank of gas getting back hahaha

marolf101x

That's why I just picked up a Volkswagen Passat TDi wagon. . .32mpg in town with my driving style! Now I gotta get the 3rd gen done so I can build a bio-diesel reactor (like I need more projects)

ghettocruiser

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6 speed swap into the TDI with a veggie oil conversion. Driving on pennies!!!

Car is looking good. Good idea on rebuilding the front end. Sometimes to get things to fit and work like you want, its much easier to just build it from scratch rather than tinkering with what the general put in place.

J.

Steel Armadillo

I know very little about turbos, give me a size range and I'll keep my eyes peeled around here.

Flip 2

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Getting on board of this... stuff takes time... want to see where it goes... when it goes.... very, very cool.

88FormulaKiller

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you are one crazy mf'n bastard and i envy your talent, skills and resources. nice nice. ill be watching .... in my dark jealous corner.

Andrew91GT

Once everyone goes out into the workforce and establishes themselves, they want what they thought was cool in high school. For me a third gen is that car!

Sojer

Nice I thoght about this. I was thinking the Z06 rollor chassis and put my camaro on it. But that's way out my skill

LITTLE NICKEY

Wow that's what I'm talking about!

kmcn47

you know its been one hell of a long winter, i wonder how much progress hes made

FlyDoc

I take it that you are removing all the inner bumper supports. are you going to use the factory bumper cover?
I have herd that bumper cover deforms at speed. any truth to this? if so how are you going to solve this?

marolf101x

Yep, factory bumper cover. The bumper just needs to be supported in the critical areas so it cannot bend. I'll get some pics up soon as I have it mostly completed.

I've been building this style of bumper for our dirt late model cars for years. They use a plastic "replication" of a stock bumper cover, but it lives on the dirt at 130-140mph, so I think it'll be fine on the street.


sorry for such a long "winter"! Lately I've been developing struts for the 2010 Camaro (which will translate over to the Mustangs, and I'm trying to get it to work on the third gens as well) so I've not had much time on the turbo car.

BADNBLK

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Tiger cage me Britt!

morrow

how is the 68 going?

marolf101x

Well, it's not much, but here are some pics. I've been putting off the tin work for a while as I'm not very good.





The intercooler pipes will go through these panels so it looks clean (hopefully!):

marolf101x

I've not done a damn thing on the 68 in quite a while. The plan is to have the 3rd gen done this summer (though I do have to clean up my bagged 02 S-10 as I have it for sale). Then this winter I want to get back on the 68.
I've been running our 48 Hour 67 Camaro at some autocrosses and I REALLY need to get the 68 back on the road. . .I miss that car!!!

morrow

thats how i feel about my 92 lol, i wrecked it doing a time attack run and plowed into a bolder at 80 mph going aroound a left turn. front end got perty munched but all things considerd wasnt too bad, so its under the knife. im rebuilding it from crossmember forward. it always brightens my day just to sit in it. the one piece buckets are mighty nice lol.

badjuju342

Speaking of crazy things to do with a wrecked 'Vette , I thought this was the most intense conversion I had ever seen:
http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...pical-car.html but I believe you just edged that man out .

Blue1990camaro

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this is legitametly the insane crazy and yet coolest build iv seen yet, i cant wait to see how ya pull it off lol, Get er done boss

LSfan70s

Awesome project!!! Any update?

marolf101x

I do have to apologize for the lack of updates. . .this is the time of year I actually get to crawl out of my cave and run some events (not to mention it's 90-105 degrees in my non-air conditioned garage, so I don't want to be out here any more than I have to!).

Last weekend I participated in the Optima Face Off at at Road America in Elkhart Lake, WI where I won the autocross, finished 3rd on the road course, and finished second overall (beating a $350K+ Porsche Carrera GT!):
http://www.ridetech.com/info/2012/06...ceoff-results/

This past weekend I was at the Good Guys show in Des Moines, IA where I won the Pro autocross class in our 48-Hour 1967 Camaro as well as the Super Sunday deal with our 2010 Camaro (if you read into this you'll notice I have prototype struts on the car. . . and I love third gens. . .so what's next?):
http://www.ridetech.com/info/2012/07...goodguys-iowa/

This weekend I'll be running the 48 Hour car again at the Columbus Good Guys show. Then it's off to Michigan next week for a military show and an "OEM" install of our air suspension.

I've made some progress on the third gen, but have simply not had time to update my website or my posts here.
I hope you all understand and bear with me. . .I'll get back on it in a few weeks!

tylercamaro

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i will gladly bear with you as long as i can be a grizzly. post up pics as soon as you can weve been anxiously waiting. glad your keeping busy and having fun at work and what not

sleepsinshed

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I was wondering who drove that Butternut Yellow 67. I have a 68 in that color.


Good luck on the circuit, can't wait to see updates on the 3rd Gen, you've already given me some ideas for mine.

akanitro

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Wow. Amazing Fab Job so far. You are going to have one unique and bad *** dream setup. Yep, a little envious.

prossi

Britt,
Great job at the faceoff...I was there with my shop counterpart in the blue Z06 from Underground Autosports.
This is a very cool project you got going!!
BTW I was talking to Bret at the optima challenge and he said the third gen coil overs were going to be avilable by this fall...is this still the plan?

BADNBLK

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This is amazing news! I hope its true! I'm ready to trade up from these Koni's

frankie95

subscribed. awesome work!

marolf101x

The plan is to officially release our new strut program at SEMA.
First cars up are the 5th Gen Camaro and the 05+ Mustang.
Then it's on to the 3rd Gen Camaro and Fox body up Mustangs.

I don't have any good pics at the moment, but I'll see if we can't snap a few today.

marolf101x

Here's a couple of pics of the production intent prototype struts (about the only thing that will change is that the brake and ABS brackets will be made out of stainless):
2010 Camaro:


2005+ Mustang:

BADNBLK

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Feel free to update me on these when you get more info available.

So not to hi-jack... how is this vettmaro coming along? Probably been too busy training your new rookie... Herb

reggie91

that will be nice when you git it done it is a awesome build