a third gen, a Z06, and a long winter
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Re: a third gen, a Z06, and a long winter
So, where are you at on it? I'm swapping floorpans and a firewall in one of my toys over to 4thgen right now to make my swap seamless and to use 4thgen everything...I've been contemplating using my old c5 torque tube and rear end and fabbing it up underneath as part of deleting the rear seats and making my car more like a vette (with the rear 'shelf') then using the rear c5 fuel tanks. Naturally this depends on if I can find a suitable donor that lacks the extra junk I don't need to remain cost effective. Kind of the same idea with a different twist.
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I had an idea like this once, though was a combination between a 3rd and 4th gen Camaro. Awesome work dude.
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I apologize for lack of updates and slow progress of this build. . .life happens to all of us.
A quick update. . .I gave up my Engineering Director position at Ridetech to move my wife and kids back "home". While I enjoy the sanctity of my garage, which can be located anywhere, the wife I decided raising our children over 500 miles from any relatives was not the option we really wanted.
So for almost a year now I've been running my own engineering consulting company and living in a townhome looking for a place my wife likes with a garage I can live with. We close on our new place the first week of September.
The 3rd gen has been sitting in a storage unit with all my tools, plasma cutter, sheet metal brake, welder, parts. . .pretty much everything I could shove in there.
Though I've not been working on the car (or any car for that matter), I will be back on it soon. The new place has a nice garage; not quite the 1920 square feet I had, but it'll work (and limit me to two major projects, which I probably need to keep focused and get something done!)
As soon as we are settled in the new house and I have the garage functional the first item of business is to get the 3rd gen finished. I’ll jump back on here and give you all an update when I get back on it.
A quick update. . .I gave up my Engineering Director position at Ridetech to move my wife and kids back "home". While I enjoy the sanctity of my garage, which can be located anywhere, the wife I decided raising our children over 500 miles from any relatives was not the option we really wanted.
So for almost a year now I've been running my own engineering consulting company and living in a townhome looking for a place my wife likes with a garage I can live with. We close on our new place the first week of September.
The 3rd gen has been sitting in a storage unit with all my tools, plasma cutter, sheet metal brake, welder, parts. . .pretty much everything I could shove in there.
Though I've not been working on the car (or any car for that matter), I will be back on it soon. The new place has a nice garage; not quite the 1920 square feet I had, but it'll work (and limit me to two major projects, which I probably need to keep focused and get something done!)
As soon as we are settled in the new house and I have the garage functional the first item of business is to get the 3rd gen finished. I’ll jump back on here and give you all an update when I get back on it.
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Re: a third gen, a Z06, and a long winter
I apologize for lack of updates and slow progress of this build. . .life happens to all of us.
A quick update. . .I gave up my Engineering Director position at Ridetech to move my wife and kids back "home". While I enjoy the sanctity of my garage, which can be located anywhere, the wife I decided raising our children over 500 miles from any relatives was not the option we really wanted.
So for almost a year now I've been running my own engineering consulting company and living in a townhome looking for a place my wife likes with a garage I can live with. We close on our new place the first week of September.
The 3rd gen has been sitting in a storage unit with all my tools, plasma cutter, sheet metal brake, welder, parts. . .pretty much everything I could shove in there.
Though I've not been working on the car (or any car for that matter), I will be back on it soon. The new place has a nice garage; not quite the 1920 square feet I had, but it'll work (and limit me to two major projects, which I probably need to keep focused and get something done!)
As soon as we are settled in the new house and I have the garage functional the first item of business is to get the 3rd gen finished. I’ll jump back on here and give you all an update when I get back on it.
A quick update. . .I gave up my Engineering Director position at Ridetech to move my wife and kids back "home". While I enjoy the sanctity of my garage, which can be located anywhere, the wife I decided raising our children over 500 miles from any relatives was not the option we really wanted.
So for almost a year now I've been running my own engineering consulting company and living in a townhome looking for a place my wife likes with a garage I can live with. We close on our new place the first week of September.
The 3rd gen has been sitting in a storage unit with all my tools, plasma cutter, sheet metal brake, welder, parts. . .pretty much everything I could shove in there.
Though I've not been working on the car (or any car for that matter), I will be back on it soon. The new place has a nice garage; not quite the 1920 square feet I had, but it'll work (and limit me to two major projects, which I probably need to keep focused and get something done!)
As soon as we are settled in the new house and I have the garage functional the first item of business is to get the 3rd gen finished. I’ll jump back on here and give you all an update when I get back on it.
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Right on man!!! Congrats of the new adventure with the family
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I apologize for the LONG delay. . .you know how life goes. . .
move 500 miles, start a new company, raise a family.
I slacked off and let the website go away. I'll see if I can't locate the images and put them up somewhere.
Excuses aside here's where it sits at the new place. Garage is in utter chaos and I have a few other projects to get finished in front of it (work and family related. . .not much fun car stuff). All the hard work is done. I just need to put in the wire harness and modify for length in a few places, drop the motor back in, finish the turbo cold side plumbing, and all the little things involved with making it run and drive.
move 500 miles, start a new company, raise a family.
I slacked off and let the website go away. I'll see if I can't locate the images and put them up somewhere.
Excuses aside here's where it sits at the new place. Garage is in utter chaos and I have a few other projects to get finished in front of it (work and family related. . .not much fun car stuff). All the hard work is done. I just need to put in the wire harness and modify for length in a few places, drop the motor back in, finish the turbo cold side plumbing, and all the little things involved with making it run and drive.
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yes, that is the bumper support for the 3rd gen.
I had to fabricate one as I changed the headlights, radiator and added an intercooler.
I had to fabricate one as I changed the headlights, radiator and added an intercooler.
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Still following
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Re: a third gen, a Z06, and a long winter
That 67 looks familiar, wasn't that one of the Ridetech test mules? Your garage looks like mine; a Butternut Yellow first gen next to a 3rd gen in pieces...
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Still following also....
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I recently made my way back into a 3rd gen, I thought about this thread and wondered what happened. did it ever get finished?
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I apologize, I forgot about this thread as well.
The car did get "finished". During the "long winter" I had 4 kids and moved from Southern Indiana to Central Iowa.
I started working on my 1966 Lincoln Continental convertible by installing a Crown Vic front suspension and Mustang S550 (2015+) rear independent suspension.
Then I purchased a 1964 Chevelle 4-door for a daily to haul around the kids.
So nothing was getting done on the Camaro until a buddy who autocrosses a 1968 Camaro said he'd buy it if I got it done enough to use as a track car.
It's N/A, so no turbo, but it runs great and he loves it. It's not nice, so you can beat the snot out of it and not care.
It's now out running Good Guys and SCCA autocrosses. The interior isn't 100% done, but it got a roll hoop and harnesses.
I'll see if I can get pictures.
The car did get "finished". During the "long winter" I had 4 kids and moved from Southern Indiana to Central Iowa.
I started working on my 1966 Lincoln Continental convertible by installing a Crown Vic front suspension and Mustang S550 (2015+) rear independent suspension.
Then I purchased a 1964 Chevelle 4-door for a daily to haul around the kids.
So nothing was getting done on the Camaro until a buddy who autocrosses a 1968 Camaro said he'd buy it if I got it done enough to use as a track car.
It's N/A, so no turbo, but it runs great and he loves it. It's not nice, so you can beat the snot out of it and not care.
It's now out running Good Guys and SCCA autocrosses. The interior isn't 100% done, but it got a roll hoop and harnesses.
I'll see if I can get pictures.
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Re: a third gen, a Z06, and a long winter
I've recently started fixing mine after a few months of working on other random stuff. Broke the torque arm on a hard launch last winter, gas prices have kept me unmotivated but it's time. Glad to see your project is in good shape. Would like to see some pics as well.
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I apologize, I forgot about this thread as well.
The car did get "finished". During the "long winter" I had 4 kids and moved from Southern Indiana to Central Iowa.
I started working on my 1966 Lincoln Continental convertible by installing a Crown Vic front suspension and Mustang S550 (2015+) rear independent suspension.
Then I purchased a 1964 Chevelle 4-door for a daily to haul around the kids.
So nothing was getting done on the Camaro until a buddy who autocrosses a 1968 Camaro said he'd buy it if I got it done enough to use as a track car.
It's N/A, so no turbo, but it runs great and he loves it. It's not nice, so you can beat the snot out of it and not care.
It's now out running Good Guys and SCCA autocrosses. The interior isn't 100% done, but it got a roll hoop and harnesses.
I'll see if I can get pictures.
The car did get "finished". During the "long winter" I had 4 kids and moved from Southern Indiana to Central Iowa.
I started working on my 1966 Lincoln Continental convertible by installing a Crown Vic front suspension and Mustang S550 (2015+) rear independent suspension.
Then I purchased a 1964 Chevelle 4-door for a daily to haul around the kids.
So nothing was getting done on the Camaro until a buddy who autocrosses a 1968 Camaro said he'd buy it if I got it done enough to use as a track car.
It's N/A, so no turbo, but it runs great and he loves it. It's not nice, so you can beat the snot out of it and not care.
It's now out running Good Guys and SCCA autocrosses. The interior isn't 100% done, but it got a roll hoop and harnesses.
I'll see if I can get pictures.
Thanks-
Eric
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Here's an image of the aluminum adapter I made to make the Vette ABS work. Just took apart a junk C5 bearing, removed the sensor, put it in this adapter.
The reluctor ring is pressed on the axle, and IIRC it came from a Mustang.
Here's what it looks like now. Not pretty, but I love the "that looks like a crappy old car" appearance.
Engine bay before I had the headlights and everything in place.
Side shot of engine bay. You can kind of see how far set back the engine is.
ZO6 seats, floor, dash, etc. As well as the wheel tub covers I 3D printed then textured with paint.
Better shot of the hoop and the dash. The trans tunnel is still not covered. We may 3D print some parts to make the dash flow into a console and fit the tunnel.
The reluctor ring is pressed on the axle, and IIRC it came from a Mustang.
Here's what it looks like now. Not pretty, but I love the "that looks like a crappy old car" appearance.
Engine bay before I had the headlights and everything in place.
Side shot of engine bay. You can kind of see how far set back the engine is.
ZO6 seats, floor, dash, etc. As well as the wheel tub covers I 3D printed then textured with paint.
Better shot of the hoop and the dash. The trans tunnel is still not covered. We may 3D print some parts to make the dash flow into a console and fit the tunnel.
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Massive props to you man. I remember seeing this post about a decade ago (I think I had posted somewhere in this thread back then lol) and glad to see that you've got it done! I myself just started working on mine for the first time in many many years (due to home purchase, starting a family, career stuff, etc etc.). It's great to get back into it after such a long time and to see there is still a 3rd gen community out there. Anyway, good job man! This car is a great interesting build!
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Awesome, I love all the work that you did to it but sad that you sold it , I get it , you need the room for other projects and have to keep the money flowing, but I feel like this was an epic project worthy of much more than "just a race car" .
I think you need a blog or a YouTube channel to share your creative projects with the world, I would definitely subscribe to either one.
keep up the good work, and don't forget to share your gift with the world.
I think you need a blog or a YouTube channel to share your creative projects with the world, I would definitely subscribe to either one.
keep up the good work, and don't forget to share your gift with the world.
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Thanks for the pictures, you did great work! how did you 3d print the wheel tubs?
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ericjon262. . .
I should clarify. . .I printed the wheel tub plastic covers. The actual wheel tubs were purchased from Rural King in Southern Indiana and were meant for trailer wheel covers.
I scanned the interior with both an iPhone and a NextEngine 3D scanner (neither of which were very good compared to modern 3D scanners), then drew the wheel covers in CAD (I use Fusion 360 currently).
I printed them on a Prusa i3 clone in sections, glued them together, laid fiberglass over both sides, sanded till smooth, then spray painted with texture spray paint.
Fastime. . .
I really do appreciate your comments and suggestions.
However my build style is "rough and tumble", "WEW"; what ever works, "good enough for the girls I date", insert excuse here.
I grew up idolizing cars, and subsequently the people, I saw in Chevy High Performance/Car Craft/Hot Rod magazine (we didn't have the internet in the early 90's).
I was fortunate enough to be allowed to enter the inner sanctums of this world when I became the Director of Engineering for Ridetech. I got to know the people, I got to see the cars, I got to drive the cars, I got to work on the cars, etc.
I was VERY, VERY, VERY lucky.
Unfortunately “seeing under the skirt” opened my eyes to a few things. . .
-Your heroes are just people. Some are as cool as you thought. Some are terrible.
-Magazines are 80% lies. (I actually think this is changing somewhat for the better with Social Media) But remember, it's all an advertisement to sell you stuff, good or bad.
-Just like any other job/sport/etc. . no matter how good you think you are, someone is better.
I very quickly realized I was no Chip Foose/Troy Trepanier/Johnson's Hot Rod Shop/Roadster Shop/etc; and it would take me a lifetime to get to the point these guys are at.
So, I quickly made a decision that I would build what I was capable of, regardless of how it turned out.
I like to think I'm an old school hot rodder. . .big dreams, no money or expertise, so I have to build/make everything myself.
My early projects might technically work, but that's about it; skill and expertise is gained only over time and through many attempts and failures.
Unfortunately, my car building skill set may not match my age. If I could envision it, figure out the mechanical, then draw it up in CAD and have it magically appear, I might be ok. Unfortunately I'm not there.
Regarding a YouTube channel. . .
I have a family of 6, a full time job, and carve out only enough time in the shop to keep me sane.
I cannot weld aluminum (mig or tig), which I'm ashamed of. My shop is a terrible mess and always is no matter how much I try to keep it up. On camera I might look like a hoarder.
I've been in front of a lot of cameras, and I'm pretty sure that time is looooooooong past (at least I hope so).
And, releasing a video every 3-6 months doesn't exactly keep you on the "algorithm" radar, as it were.
So my never actually existent hopes and dreams of becoming a Youtube star are likely never to reach fruition.
I should clarify. . .I printed the wheel tub plastic covers. The actual wheel tubs were purchased from Rural King in Southern Indiana and were meant for trailer wheel covers.
I scanned the interior with both an iPhone and a NextEngine 3D scanner (neither of which were very good compared to modern 3D scanners), then drew the wheel covers in CAD (I use Fusion 360 currently).
I printed them on a Prusa i3 clone in sections, glued them together, laid fiberglass over both sides, sanded till smooth, then spray painted with texture spray paint.
Fastime. . .
I really do appreciate your comments and suggestions.
However my build style is "rough and tumble", "WEW"; what ever works, "good enough for the girls I date", insert excuse here.
I grew up idolizing cars, and subsequently the people, I saw in Chevy High Performance/Car Craft/Hot Rod magazine (we didn't have the internet in the early 90's).
I was fortunate enough to be allowed to enter the inner sanctums of this world when I became the Director of Engineering for Ridetech. I got to know the people, I got to see the cars, I got to drive the cars, I got to work on the cars, etc.
I was VERY, VERY, VERY lucky.
Unfortunately “seeing under the skirt” opened my eyes to a few things. . .
-Your heroes are just people. Some are as cool as you thought. Some are terrible.
-Magazines are 80% lies. (I actually think this is changing somewhat for the better with Social Media) But remember, it's all an advertisement to sell you stuff, good or bad.
-Just like any other job/sport/etc. . no matter how good you think you are, someone is better.
I very quickly realized I was no Chip Foose/Troy Trepanier/Johnson's Hot Rod Shop/Roadster Shop/etc; and it would take me a lifetime to get to the point these guys are at.
So, I quickly made a decision that I would build what I was capable of, regardless of how it turned out.
I like to think I'm an old school hot rodder. . .big dreams, no money or expertise, so I have to build/make everything myself.
My early projects might technically work, but that's about it; skill and expertise is gained only over time and through many attempts and failures.
Unfortunately, my car building skill set may not match my age. If I could envision it, figure out the mechanical, then draw it up in CAD and have it magically appear, I might be ok. Unfortunately I'm not there.
Regarding a YouTube channel. . .
I have a family of 6, a full time job, and carve out only enough time in the shop to keep me sane.
I cannot weld aluminum (mig or tig), which I'm ashamed of. My shop is a terrible mess and always is no matter how much I try to keep it up. On camera I might look like a hoarder.
I've been in front of a lot of cameras, and I'm pretty sure that time is looooooooong past (at least I hope so).
And, releasing a video every 3-6 months doesn't exactly keep you on the "algorithm" radar, as it were.
So my never actually existent hopes and dreams of becoming a Youtube star are likely never to reach fruition.
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The covers is actually what I meant, most 3d printers don't have the volume capacity to do a part that big in one go. they turned out great.
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