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1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

- One owner
- Rare 1LE factory built race car
- 1 of 34 350 1LE formulas produced in 1991
- Special ordered through Bostwick Pontiac through GM Employee Program
- 350 TPI/4-speed automatic
- Air conditioning delete
- 9,411 actual miles
- Original down to the tires
- Full documentation kit, services records and parts
- Good street racing history documented by stickers in back window

Asking $29500

Additional pictures are here: http://s117.photobucket.com/user/Eng...deshow/Formula

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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

NICE!!!! Best of luck with the sale!

I like the factory CD player you swapped in too!

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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

The CD player is listed on the factory window sticker.
I was going to order my 1LE with a CD player too.
Beautiful car.

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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

Crap, my bad, I was looking on the left instead of the options on the right
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

Thanks guys. I would also consider a low mileage M6 2005 or 2006 GTO as partial trade.
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

Lotta money for a couple of brake calipers and spindles.
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

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Lotta money for a couple of brake calipers and spindles.
There is a bit more to it than that.
Sure anyone can copy a 1LE car but not everyone has a Factory built 1LE. That puts u in a fairly exclusive club.

Its kinda like the pay difference of a intern to a CEO.
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

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There is a bit more to it than that.
Sure anyone can copy a 1LE car but not everyone has a Factory built 1LE. That puts u in a fairly exclusive club.

Its kinda like the pay difference of a intern to a CEO.
MY point it that brakes, rotors, aluminum driveshaft, bushings and shocks don't make for a 17,000.00 premium and frankly don't add up that much for significant performance difference on a 3rd generation car. Just adding inches to your , well... you know what.
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

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MY point it that brakes, rotors, aluminum driveshaft, bushings and shocks don't make for a 17,000.00 premium and frankly don't add up that much for significant performance difference on a 3rd generation car. Just adding inches to your , well... you know what.
Just heard of a 1LE car selling for 40k (an several others close to it) soo it must be starting to bring a premium.
Its the same with old performance cars, the more performance options they have, the more they are worth. Just the way it goes.

The option was ment for the road course and to be raced. The difference there is very real between the 2 cars. On a daily no its not at all. And thats why its priced the way it is, so it'll go to someone that understands just what this car is and wont beat it into the ground.

How many of these were made again? I'm guessing not many per yr, that also adds to the value.
Just the way the collector side of things works
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Car: 1990 & 1991 Firebird Formula 350's
Engine: 350 ci
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

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Just heard of a 1LE car selling for 40k (an several others close to it) soo it must be starting to bring a premium.
Its the same with old performance cars, the more performance options they have, the more they are worth. Just the way it goes.

The option was ment for the road course and to be raced. The difference there is very real between the 2 cars. On a daily no its not at all. And thats why its priced the way it is, so it'll go to someone that understands just what this car is and wont beat it into the ground.

How many of these were made again? I'm guessing not many per yr, that also adds to the value.
Just the way the collector side of things works
You've "heard" of it "selling" for 40K? Is that the asking price or the sale price? Just because someone is putting that kind of figure on something they value at the price doesn't mean that what it's worth or will sell for. The hobby is full of people who value their cars based on their perception of it's worth. Of course something that's a little different and produced in fewer numbers does have an added attraction that translates into some sort of premium, I won't argue that. My point is that paying that kind of premium on these cars just isn't worth it. And I'm not going to let an asking price fool me into thinking that it is. They couldn't give away the '92 Firehawk Formula's because of of the price of "all those options" and they had a lot more going for them than the basic 1Le cars. That being said though, there's an old saying in the car business; "there's an a** for every seat" and I support anyone who would want to spend that kind of money to sit in it.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

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You've "heard" of it "selling" for 40K? Is that the asking price or the sale price? Just because someone is putting that kind of figure on something they value at the price doesn't mean that what it's worth or will sell for. The hobby is full of people who value their cars based on their perception of it's worth. Of course something that's a little different and produced in fewer numbers does have an added attraction that translates into some sort of premium, I won't argue that. My point is that paying that kind of premium on these cars just isn't worth it. And I'm not going to let an asking price fool me into thinking that it is. They couldn't give away the '92 Firehawk Formula's because of of the price of "all those options" and they had a lot more going for them than the basic 1Le cars. That being said though, there's an old saying in the car business; "there's an a** for every seat" and I support anyone who would want to spend that kind of money to sit in it.

Yes, it sold on one of those stupid tv auction shows. Thats not the only one either. A 1LE formula brought over 30k several yrs ago. Plus several more up over 30-40k lately.
And just because it didnt happen on tv or in public, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. They switch hands in private probably more so than on TV or in the publics eyes.
I know there has been a hawk on evil pay that can't bring the number they want but i also know of a few base hawks that have sold privately for 70k plus which is incredible because they were selling for 20-5k. 10plus yrs ago.

Its all in what you want, a high mile hacked up car. Or a low mile untouched factory built performance car. With the later, comes a price.
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

TTop 350 is correct. I have four 91 1le's and have turned down well over $30K for one with 25,000 miles less than a year ago. The thirdgen 1le's are and will be the COPO of their day
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

9,000 miles BUT "racing history documented by stickers in back window" ???

Low mileage sure but if it's been used and abused (like it was meant to be) then your collector car asking price seems a little high, no? I didn't even sell my Firehawk (1991 #002) for that much a few years ago.

Regardless, nice car and glws
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

I have sold a few third gens, still have too many
But, I will not post one on this site. It seems that you wind up defending your car instead of selling it.


1LE cars are rare, if you are into the production numbers thing.
regardless of miles they sell for more than others.


I hope you get what you are asking for, GLWS
It is a very nice 3rd gen
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

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You've "heard" of it "selling" for 40K? Is that the asking price or the sale price? Just because someone is putting that kind of figure on something they value at the price doesn't mean that what it's worth or will sell for. The hobby is full of people who value their cars based on their perception of it's worth. Of course something that's a little different and produced in fewer numbers does have an added attraction that translates into some sort of premium, I won't argue that. My point is that paying that kind of premium on these cars just isn't worth it. And I'm not going to let an asking price fool me into thinking that it is. They couldn't give away the '92 Firehawk Formula's because of of the price of "all those options" and they had a lot more going for them than the basic 1Le cars. That being said though, there's an old saying in the car business; "there's an a** for every seat" and I support anyone who would want to spend that kind of money to sit in it.
On eBay right now, with bids. Good job being a downer BTW.http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-IROC-Z-1LE-1990-chevrolet-camaro-iroc-1-le-5-7-l-350-ci-1-of-28-built-only-2-k-/201300584183?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2ede7326f7&item=201300584183&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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Re: 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 350 1LE

I have seen that car in person, very nice.
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