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I have a 1985 IROC-Z with Silver paint and the red decals with red and black stripes. Its an original LG4, T-5, 3.08 disc rear with red interior, Hard top.
Does anybody know how many or approximately how many were made in SILVER?
I have NEVER seen another Silver car in person. I have seen, and can still find, 5 or 6 on the internet, but cant find a production count. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx, Morgan
Does anybody know how many or approximately how many were made in SILVER?
In 85, 21,177 IROCs rolled off the line, according to info I received from GM. Silver Met was a one-year color, so not many could have been built. I doubt that there are production numbers to verifiy model and color, but if there are, I'd love to see them.
Yeah, I know its 1 of FEW and a 1-year color. I was just wonderin' if anybody had ANY IDEA! 1000? 2000? 2500? ANY IDEA?
Do you know of any? How many can YOU locate? I have discovered I believe 6, but maybe only 5 on the WEB.
Just realized we have the same car and DAMN NEAR the same Set Up.
T-5, Vortec 350. Have you ever took it to the track? Whats it run?
I was just wonderin' if anybody had ANY IDEA! 1000? 2000? 2500? ANY IDEA? Do you know of any? How many can YOU locate? I have discovered I believe 6, but maybe only 5 on the WEB.
Just realized we have the same car and DAMN NEAR the same Set Up.
T-5, Vortec 350. Have you ever took it to the track? Whats it run?
You might consider a search as this is a topic that's been covered before, but You'll discover that silver met is rare and that's about it.
You weren't as sorry as I was! I know full well the car's upper potential for value is going to be limited by it being a non-TPI. But if you had looked for a silver on red '85 IROC with under 4K miles like I did, you can overlook that just to remind yourself of how simple things were back in High School!
There were far more LG4's in 85 than LB9's (63,052 vs 32,836). But how those motors were distributed in the 21,117 IROC's of that year would be truely interesting, I think. Could it be that the carbed version is the rarer of the two? The rare silver IROC would no doubt be one of the 2,497 L69's.
Hey Midwest Muscle, My grandpa lives in Monett. I maybe I could check out your car sometime, and u could see mine. I am gonna drive it down there(about 6.5 hrs@ 80mph) so I can race my uncle Cole's 84 HO car(350 XE274,TH350 3500conv.,etc.)
By the way, according to an 85 Camaro brochure, only IROC's got the silver met.--along with black, bright blue met., yellow, and red--so those 21,177 cars were divided among those five colors. IMO, the rarest of those is silver met. and yellow.
z28freak, if I'm around when you come visit your uncle I'd be glad to show you all the cars and have a spin in yours. I travel a lot, but shoot an e-mail over to mohotcars@aol.com whenever you are planning it.
I've run across one silver IROC other than mine in person and it has the overhead console and rear wiper. THAT has to be one rare optioned car. It has been repainted however. My car is all original with 46K original miles, 305TPI, auto, T tops and red "custom cloth" interior. There was one that was nearly identical to mine on ebay a few months ago with about 19K miles. I've ran across a few people with silver IROCs on the message boards but I think total count is maybe 12.
The "Camaro Whitebook" has been known to have inconsistincies in production numbers.And looking at other sources thru-out the web you will get different info.The 11,684 Code 12 cars,listed in the "Whitebook",produced in '85 includes Sport Coupe,Berlinetta,Z28 and IROC.Dealers ordered cars to have on the lots can somewhat explain why so many show up with the LG4.It's a way to have an example of the new model without having the hipo L69(yes those are extrmely rare for '85 in any color as production was halted mide model year)or the new for '85 LB9.
It's amazing how maketing choses color pallettes by previous years sales for particular models.Popular olor choices are expanded if sales are high and deleted if sales don't warrant it being continued.
GM didn't track options by model, only overall production. Therefore it is impossible to know exactly how many of a certain model/color/engine/trans combo were made.
mine has 48000 miles on it i love it i used to own a white 87 350 when i was 16 then it got stolen and it wasnt for ten yesr later i found this silver 305 on ebay and bought it its in great shape but i find that the seat belt buck are alittle fragile moast likely from the sun and antrior is alitlle faded .its very hard to find the carmine red interior replacements
I have a 1985 IROC-Z with Silver paint and the red decals with red and black stripes. Its an original LG4, T-5, 3.08 disc rear with red interior, Hard top.
Does anybody know how many or approximately how many were made in SILVER?
I have NEVER seen another Silver car in person. I have seen, and can still find, 5 or 6 on the internet, but cant find a production count. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx, Morgan
I have one. Its a LG4, 5 speed, No T-tops or power windows or door locks, but has A/C, cruise, and tilt wheel, J65 4 wheel disc brakes. The LG4 with the 5 speed has 3.23 gears factory. They only made 11,xxx silver cars for 1985 and that was for all the Camaro models. Im thinking that they made less then 5000 IROC's that were silver.
By the way, according to an 85 Camaro brochure, only IROC's got the silver met.--along with black, bright blue met., yellow, and red--so those 21,177 cars were divided among those five colors. IMO, the rarest of those is silver met. and yellow.
JamesC
That cant be right, because I have seen 85 Camaros, that are not IROC's that are silver and red and blue. Base coupes, Berlinetta, Z28. They made 11,xxx silver Camaros that year and im thinking that under 5000 were IROC's.
I have an 85 IROC silver with red stripe L69/ 5 speed /T-top /rear wiper /overhead console/ rear disc/ G92 G80 with tri-color black L/S interior and full power everything. Sold in Feb 85 in Palm Beach Florida. I got all the original documents from the first owner (who has since become a good friend and is also an 85 Camaro encyclopedia in his own right). He bought it on the spot when he saw it in the dealership window while on vacation. It was built in the first 30 days of IROC production Nov 1984.
1985 was the ONLY year silver was available on an IROC but there were other shades of silver on the rest of the lineup and in 82-84 however they were a different paint code and the WACC code is specific to each color. GM did change paint color names from year to year but I'm almost positive the WACC code also changed even IF it was the EXACT color as a previous year. The silver used on 1985 IROCs was EXCLUSIVE to that model year and was only on IROCs. I have an 82 Pace Car and even though its silver its a different color and WACC code than my 85 IROC.
I wanted a silver L69 IROC and was looking for a very specific option combo and because silver is so rare it took me 23 years to find my car starting in the early 90s when I tried to buy my friends car (more on that later).
In the process I found and documented about 12 other silver IROCs with different stripe, interior and engine combos both T-top and coupe.
I also have an EXTENSIVE 3rd Gen Camaro archive from when I worked at a Chevy Dealer (87-93) which I have been studying for OVER 30 years so (IMHO) I hope I can shed a little light on the subject.
There was only ONE silver color available on IROCs in 85 but there was a charcoal grey not available on IROC which may have some confused. Silver was technically LESS than a 1 year color as it was discontinued mid-production 1985 and was marketed as limited availability by Chevrolet.
ALL silver IROCs got argent wheels.
There were TWO decal color combos though: silver with red stripe and silver with charcoal stripe. The most common was red decal.
Because of this, MOST of the silver IROCs will have red interior because red decal cars got the red interior, charcoal decal got either black or grey interior.
Every one I found with red decals has the red interior and only 1 of those had the L/S seats. The other silver cars (either red or charcoal stripe): 2 or 3 had the base high back and all the others were custom cloth in red, black or grey. In my research looking for my silver IROC, I found a note from GM to dealers that the ONLY way to get a silver IROC with red decals AND a black interior was through Central Office Approval which essentially was a COPO order. Youre probably not going to find many of the silver / red decal with ANY style BLACK interior as mine is the only one I found. It was a special order car to be displayed in the showroom of a dealership in a very wealthy area. They wanted to show what you could get so fortunately the salesman spared no expense, checked EVERY option box available on this car and ordered early to be the first to have an IROC on display. Oddly enough it has metric gauges but was ordered by and delivered to the same dealer in Florida.
Side note: Several years ago I posted a thread looking for a lower VIN IROC and haven't found one but the owner of the first documented IROC shipped to Canada contacted me and he was within 100 of mine so they were probably built the same day which may explain the metric cluster in my car. That car was almost identical in every option but was black with gold decals.
As for engine combos: from what I documented, TPI was the most common IROC motor probably because autos are easier to sell to the masses. When you think IROC you automatically assume TPI. That's pretty much with almost any color 85 & 86 IROC since TPI was just introduced dealers wanted them on the floor to show. 2nd most common was LG4 / auto, then LG4 / 5 speed which was least expensive. Many IROC buyers thought you had to get a 5 speed if you really wanted to "drive" a sports car and it was easier and cheaper to make more power in an LG4 than to do an auto to manual swap with a TPI and dealers didn't stock many L69. So, the rarest is the L69 and I only found 1 silver L69 with auto. I know of only 1 other silver L69 5 speed which belonged to my best friends cousin. He bought brand new in 85. It was stolen and the shell was found stripped in the early 90s. It was the first IROC I ever saw: he showed it to me just hours after he bought it and that car started my decades long quest for a silver L69. His car was red decal / red custom cloth / T-top. Silver was hard to find even working at a dealership back in the day so until the internet was invented it was REALLY hard to find one using the classified newspaper ads. You guys don't know how easy you have to locate the 5 or 6 you did and I wouldn't be surprised if they are the same ones I documented.
I'm sure there are many more silver IROCs out there but I'm only speaking about what cars I personally have found and have documented while actively looking for a silver IROC for over 20 years.
I'm specifically talking about 1985 but most of the L69 cars for all years (83-86) were ordered by a buyer and not for dealer stock because it was the most expensive option until TPI and more expensive to insure than all others. The L69 engine was only offered for the first few months of 85 production and was marketed as limited availability in all the dealer info. The dealer I worked at ordered the next model year in late August and production began in Sept. The sliver was a limited run color so to get the L69 in silver you had to order during a very short window Aug- Oct 84. Yellow wasn't available for early order so the L69 overlapped that color around Dec and ran until Feb from what I can tell.
As the owner of one of these I'd really love to know how many were built / survive. I really wanted to buy my friends because it was the first one I laid eyes on but since that car was lost forever I set out to find the ultimate silver IROC. I'll let you guys debate if I succeeded, but don't ask because its NOT for sale.
I too have found many errors with the accuracy of the White Book (not knocking the authors because its still worth owning a copy) but even within GMs own Media Archives so don't rely on them 100% if youre going to spend good money buying a car. Find someone who knows them and pay to get an evaluation so you don't get burned. But I think the rarest will be a silver L69 with ANY option combination. If you have one let me know because I'd like to document it with the others. If I can help you with specific Qs feel free to PM me.
IROC-MIKE this is an excellent write up about the one year only '85 silver IROC. Yours also has a very rare combination of options along with the color. I didn't know that the charcoal grey wasn't available on the '85 IROC since I had a '85 Z-28 in that color. I always wondered why I never saw an '85 IROC in charcoal grey.
By the way I have only seen one silver '85 IROC in person and I've seen a lot of IROCs in my time.
Another car that you own that is a one year color is the "California" '85 IROC. That red #75 wasn't used again on an IROC.
In my research looking for my silver IROC, I found a note from GM to dealers that the ONLY way to get a silver IROC with red decals AND a black interior was through Central Office Approval which essentially was a COPO order. Youre probably not going to find many of the silver / red decal with ANY style BLACK interior as mine is the only one I found.
My 85 is met. silver with red decals and its original interior was black cloth (still is but it's been reupholstered). Nice to know about the COPO order.
EDIT: Just to share. Mine has a couple of goofy options such as a rear wiper/washer and an analog clock (the radio was originally AM only).
hello-im the original owner-purchased 8/1985. bought in santa barbara. had to have it. all paperwork all build sheets all tire warranty paperwork about the original gatorbacks-everything i have-what you want to know or what can i do to provide info. she is still a sweet ride-hand crank windows-am radio-clock in the console-perfect vinyl interior. strangely enough-ordered by the dealer with the quiet sound group option. absolutely stock with the gray vinyl interior.
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I have an 85 IROC silver with red stripe L69/ 5 speed /T-top /rear wiper /overhead console/ rear disc/ G92 G80 with tri-color black L/S interior and full power everything. Sold in Feb 85 in Palm Beach Florida. I got all the original documents from the first owner (who has since become a good friend and is also an 85 Camaro encyclopedia in his own right). He bought it on the spot when he saw it in the dealership window while on vacation. It was built in the first 30 days of IROC production Nov 1984.
1985 was the ONLY year silver was available on an IROC but there were other shades of silver on the rest of the lineup and in 82-84 however they were a different paint code and the WACC code is specific to each color. GM did change paint color names from year to year but I'm almost positive the WACC code also changed even IF it was the EXACT color as a previous year. The silver used on 1985 IROCs was EXCLUSIVE to that model year and was only on IROCs. I have an 82 Pace Car and even though its silver its a different color and WACC code than my 85 IROC.
I wanted a silver L69 IROC and was looking for a very specific option combo and because silver is so rare it took me 23 years to find my car starting in the early 90s when I tried to buy my friends car (more on that later).
In the process I found and documented about 12 other silver IROCs with different stripe, interior and engine combos both T-top and coupe.
I also have an EXTENSIVE 3rd Gen Camaro archive from when I worked at a Chevy Dealer (87-93) which I have been studying for OVER 30 years so (IMHO) I hope I can shed a little light on the subject.
There was only ONE silver color available on IROCs in 85 but there was a charcoal grey not available on IROC which may have some confused. Silver was technically LESS than a 1 year color as it was discontinued mid-production 1985 and was marketed as limited availability by Chevrolet.
ALL silver IROCs got argent wheels.
There were TWO decal color combos though: silver with red stripe and silver with charcoal stripe. The most common was red decal.
Because of this, MOST of the silver IROCs will have red interior because red decal cars got the red interior, charcoal decal got either black or grey interior.
Every one I found with red decals has the red interior and only 1 of those had the L/S seats. The other silver cars (either red or charcoal stripe): 2 or 3 had the base high back and all the others were custom cloth in red, black or grey. In my research looking for my silver IROC, I found a note from GM to dealers that the ONLY way to get a silver IROC with red decals AND a black interior was through Central Office Approval which essentially was a COPO order. Youre probably not going to find many of the silver / red decal with ANY style BLACK interior as mine is the only one I found. It was a special order car to be displayed in the showroom of a dealership in a very wealthy area. They wanted to show what you could get so fortunately the salesman spared no expense, checked EVERY option box available on this car and ordered early to be the first to have an IROC on display. Oddly enough it has metric gauges but was ordered by and delivered to the same dealer in Florida.
Side note: Several years ago I posted a thread looking for a lower VIN IROC and haven't found one but the owner of the first documented IROC shipped to Canada contacted me and he was within 100 of mine so they were probably built the same day which may explain the metric cluster in my car. That car was almost identical in every option but was black with gold decals.
As for engine combos: from what I documented, TPI was the most common IROC motor probably because autos are easier to sell to the masses. When you think IROC you automatically assume TPI. That's pretty much with almost any color 85 & 86 IROC since TPI was just introduced dealers wanted them on the floor to show. 2nd most common was LG4 / auto, then LG4 / 5 speed which was least expensive. Many IROC buyers thought you had to get a 5 speed if you really wanted to "drive" a sports car and it was easier and cheaper to make more power in an LG4 than to do an auto to manual swap with a TPI and dealers didn't stock many L69. So, the rarest is the L69 and I only found 1 silver L69 with auto. I know of only 1 other silver L69 5 speed which belonged to my best friends cousin. He bought brand new in 85. It was stolen and the shell was found stripped in the early 90s. It was the first IROC I ever saw: he showed it to me just hours after he bought it and that car started my decades long quest for a silver L69. His car was red decal / red custom cloth / T-top. Silver was hard to find even working at a dealership back in the day so until the internet was invented it was REALLY hard to find one using the classified newspaper ads. You guys don't know how easy you have to locate the 5 or 6 you did and I wouldn't be surprised if they are the same ones I documented.
I'm sure there are many more silver IROCs out there but I'm only speaking about what cars I personally have found and have documented while actively looking for a silver IROC for over 20 years.
I'm specifically talking about 1985 but most of the L69 cars for all years (83-86) were ordered by a buyer and not for dealer stock because it was the most expensive option until TPI and more expensive to insure than all others. The L69 engine was only offered for the first few months of 85 production and was marketed as limited availability in all the dealer info. The dealer I worked at ordered the next model year in late August and production began in Sept. The sliver was a limited run color so to get the L69 in silver you had to order during a very short window Aug- Oct 84. Yellow wasn't available for early order so the L69 overlapped that color around Dec and ran until Feb from what I can tell.
As the owner of one of these I'd really love to know how many were built / survive. I really wanted to buy my friends because it was the first one I laid eyes on but since that car was lost forever I set out to find the ultimate silver IROC. I'll let you guys debate if I succeeded, but don't ask because its NOT for sale.
I too have found many errors with the accuracy of the White Book (not knocking the authors because its still worth owning a copy) but even within GMs own Media Archives so don't rely on them 100% if youre going to spend good money buying a car. Find someone who knows them and pay to get an evaluation so you don't get burned. But I think the rarest will be a silver L69 with ANY option combination. If you have one let me know because I'd like to document it with the others. If I can help you with specific Qs feel free to PM me.
Mike, I'd love to see pics of your IROC-Z. An '85 silver, L69, 5 speed is on my bucket list. I almost had one from eBay several years ago. It was on the east coast and I was the high bidder. I lost it the day before the auction ended to a local buyer.
IROC-MIKE this is an excellent write up about the one year only '85 silver IROC. Yours also has a very rare combination of options along with the color. I didn't know that the charcoal grey wasn't available on the '85 IROC since I had a '85 Z-28 in that color. I always wondered why I never saw an '85 IROC in charcoal grey.
By the way I have only seen one silver '85 IROC in person and I've seen a lot of IROCs in my time.
Another car that you own that is a one year color is the "California" '85 IROC. That red #75 wasn't used again on an IROC.
I have followed the IROC cars since they came out. Always went to the dealers to look at the cars when I was in HS. Have looked at car shows. I had never seen a silver one in person until I bought mine in May 2016. The IROC has always been my favorite Camaro. This silver one is my second, my first was a 87 LB9 car loaded with every option including G92, overhead console, auto-dim mirror, power antenna, T-tops.
I have an 85 IROC silver with red stripe L69/ 5 speed /T-top /rear wiper /overhead console/ rear disc/ G92 G80 with tri-color black L/S interior and full power everything. Sold in Feb 85 in Palm Beach Florida. I got all the original documents from the first owner (who has since become a good friend and is also an 85 Camaro encyclopedia in his own right). He bought it on the spot when he saw it in the dealership window while on vacation. It was built in the first 30 days of IROC production Nov 1984.
1985 was the ONLY year silver was available on an IROC but there were other shades of silver on the rest of the lineup and in 82-84 however they were a different paint code and the WACC code is specific to each color. GM did change paint color names from year to year but I'm almost positive the WACC code also changed even IF it was the EXACT color as a previous year. The silver used on 1985 IROCs was EXCLUSIVE to that model year and was only on IROCs. I have an 82 Pace Car and even though its silver its a different color and WACC code than my 85 IROC.
I wanted a silver L69 IROC and was looking for a very specific option combo and because silver is so rare it took me 23 years to find my car starting in the early 90s when I tried to buy my friends car (more on that later).
In the process I found and documented about 12 other silver IROCs with different stripe, interior and engine combos both T-top and coupe.
I also have an EXTENSIVE 3rd Gen Camaro archive from when I worked at a Chevy Dealer (87-93) which I have been studying for OVER 30 years so (IMHO) I hope I can shed a little light on the subject.
There was only ONE silver color available on IROCs in 85 but there was a charcoal grey not available on IROC which may have some confused. Silver was technically LESS than a 1 year color as it was discontinued mid-production 1985 and was marketed as limited availability by Chevrolet.
ALL silver IROCs got argent wheels.
There were TWO decal color combos though: silver with red stripe and silver with charcoal stripe. The most common was red decal.
Because of this, MOST of the silver IROCs will have red interior because red decal cars got the red interior, charcoal decal got either black or grey interior.
Every one I found with red decals has the red interior and only 1 of those had the L/S seats. The other silver cars (either red or charcoal stripe): 2 or 3 had the base high back and all the others were custom cloth in red, black or grey. In my research looking for my silver IROC, I found a note from GM to dealers that the ONLY way to get a silver IROC with red decals AND a black interior was through Central Office Approval which essentially was a COPO order. Youre probably not going to find many of the silver / red decal with ANY style BLACK interior as mine is the only one I found. It was a special order car to be displayed in the showroom of a dealership in a very wealthy area. They wanted to show what you could get so fortunately the salesman spared no expense, checked EVERY option box available on this car and ordered early to be the first to have an IROC on display. Oddly enough it has metric gauges but was ordered by and delivered to the same dealer in Florida.
Side note: Several years ago I posted a thread looking for a lower VIN IROC and haven't found one but the owner of the first documented IROC shipped to Canada contacted me and he was within 100 of mine so they were probably built the same day which may explain the metric cluster in my car. That car was almost identical in every option but was black with gold decals.
As for engine combos: from what I documented, TPI was the most common IROC motor probably because autos are easier to sell to the masses. When you think IROC you automatically assume TPI. That's pretty much with almost any color 85 & 86 IROC since TPI was just introduced dealers wanted them on the floor to show. 2nd most common was LG4 / auto, then LG4 / 5 speed which was least expensive. Many IROC buyers thought you had to get a 5 speed if you really wanted to "drive" a sports car and it was easier and cheaper to make more power in an LG4 than to do an auto to manual swap with a TPI and dealers didn't stock many L69. So, the rarest is the L69 and I only found 1 silver L69 with auto. I know of only 1 other silver L69 5 speed which belonged to my best friends cousin. He bought brand new in 85. It was stolen and the shell was found stripped in the early 90s. It was the first IROC I ever saw: he showed it to me just hours after he bought it and that car started my decades long quest for a silver L69. His car was red decal / red custom cloth / T-top. Silver was hard to find even working at a dealership back in the day so until the internet was invented it was REALLY hard to find one using the classified newspaper ads. You guys don't know how easy you have to locate the 5 or 6 you did and I wouldn't be surprised if they are the same ones I documented.
I'm sure there are many more silver IROCs out there but I'm only speaking about what cars I personally have found and have documented while actively looking for a silver IROC for over 20 years.
I'm specifically talking about 1985 but most of the L69 cars for all years (83-86) were ordered by a buyer and not for dealer stock because it was the most expensive option until TPI and more expensive to insure than all others. The L69 engine was only offered for the first few months of 85 production and was marketed as limited availability in all the dealer info. The dealer I worked at ordered the next model year in late August and production began in Sept. The sliver was a limited run color so to get the L69 in silver you had to order during a very short window Aug- Oct 84. Yellow wasn't available for early order so the L69 overlapped that color around Dec and ran until Feb from what I can tell.
As the owner of one of these I'd really love to know how many were built / survive. I really wanted to buy my friends because it was the first one I laid eyes on but since that car was lost forever I set out to find the ultimate silver IROC. I'll let you guys debate if I succeeded, but don't ask because its NOT for sale.
I too have found many errors with the accuracy of the White Book (not knocking the authors because its still worth owning a copy) but even within GMs own Media Archives so don't rely on them 100% if youre going to spend good money buying a car. Find someone who knows them and pay to get an evaluation so you don't get burned. But I think the rarest will be a silver L69 with ANY option combination. If you have one let me know because I'd like to document it with the others. If I can help you with specific Qs feel free to PM me.
There is some wrong info in here. All silver IROCs had the red/black striping with red decals and the red Z28 emblems. There was no charcoal stripe available. Striping was the same regardless of interior color. It seems most got the red interior, with a smaller number of black and gray interiors.
Also, it was the same paint code for all the models in '85. I also think the silver was produced further into the production year than you say. I'd have to double check, but IIRC, my silver IROC was built in late spring of '85.
Double checked today, my silver '85 IROC was produced in May of '85, so clearly the silver color was available most of the way through the model year, if not completely through it (fairly certain it was). Also, my car has red striping like all other silver IROCs and has (well, had) a gray custom custom cloth interior.
It was mentioned before how many of these cars were strangely optioned. It seems like for whatever reason, the '85 model year had more strangely optioned cars than any other year. Mine is a bit odd too, besides the silver paint. It's very well optioned with TPI, 3.42 gears, rear disc, custom cloth, t-tops, overhead console, split rear seat, PW, PL, PM, tilt, delay, etc. But it lacks a power seat like most of my other power optioned cars and it has an open rear axle despite the disc brakes.
Does your '85 have the G80 rear end? It seems that many of them produced in April, May, and June didn't. I don't know if they ran short of them since this was toward the end of the model year production run. In fact all the 502, 1C5 "California IROC"s all built during April and May had many options, but none have the G80 limited slip rears as they were called then.
Does your '85 have the G80 rear end? It seems that many of them produced in April, May, and June didn't. I don't know if they ran short of them since this was toward the end of the model year production run. In fact all the 502, 1C5 "California IROC"s all built during April and May had many options, but none have the G80 limited slip rears as they were called then.
Nope, no G80. I had always read that ALL cars with the rear disc option were also required to have the posi rear. But then this car of mine came along and proved that wrong. Since then I have heard of several 85's with disc and no posi.
It also had the black bodyside mouldings that were riveted to the body. I never found out for sure if they were installed by the factory or the dealer. If factory, it seems odd since my 84's and 86's had the stick-on black mouldings. I seem to recall a discussion with you about the subject in the past. Don't you have an '85 with the rivet style mouldings too?
Hi 86blackiroc,
As far as the body side moldings I have never figured out what happened at the factory. The only interesting thing I have found is that the cars in '85 that had the riveted moldings also had the RPO B9K for 1985 it has been debated about before and never resolved. If there was an an increased demand for body side moldings and if they ran out. Who knows what GM might have decided to do? As far as mine goes I have removed them and replaced them with the stick on type like the '83, '84, '85 '86, '87 had that are thinner as compared to the '88-'92 type. I know they were all black until the '86 and '87 models which were body colors during those years. I decided to paint a set of original black stick on '85 style guards red to match the rest of the car. They turned out great and look great. I'll post pictures soon.
As far as all the "85' California IROC"s they all had 4 wheel disk brakes, but none had G80 which the factory always said that you couldn't get the RPO J65 4 wheel brakes in 1985 without the G80 Posi being ordered with it. Another exception to the standard rules? Or they ran out of G80 units which is what I suspect happened as did with other parts on 3rd gen cars. When they ran out of a particular part that was in demand they gave the consumer whatever they could to fill an order.
The serial number of the rear housing on mine and all the others I've seen is also different than those listed in the parts book for 1985 and doesn't show up until you find it in the 1986 parts and repair manual. I don't have that number off the top of my head but as I recall it starts with a 9 which none of the others did that year as I recall?
The Camaro White book shows 15,355 cars with this option in 1985 but I rarely see this option on any 1985 cars, just as yours doesn't have it. I have one document that shows that only 200-210 were produced that year. So who is right? If you have one let us know. I think I only know of 3 that were produced in 1985 that I have heard of to date so I'm inclined to believe the 200 number is correct and the white book is wrong.
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I've never looked at my rear axle housing number yet, so I couldn't say if it was odd or not. If my memory is correct, my car also has the B9K option code. My car was repainted at the dealer when the second owner had the car, in around '90 (peeling paint). He didn't remember for sure if the mouldings got replaced. At any rate, the car was never garaged and those rivet type mouldings caused A LOT of body rot. I removed them when I bought the car.
Speaking of the thin black door molding, what is the best way to remove the white wax residue from it? Ive had the car 5 years and cant get that stuff off....
Try using a tooth brush and some Dawn dish soap to remove the residue. Afterwards wax it with a wax that doesn't leave the residue after it dries. There are several of them on the market that work well. I prefer Zaino wax. It is expensive but an excellent non residue wax.
I see that your '85 has the GU6 or 3.42 rear gears which was essentially the G92 performance ratio for that year. It also shows the G80 locking rear and J65 4 way disks on it.
Do you happen to know if the production date is early in the year or mid year, which I suspect it to be, versus a later production date of around April, May, or June. The metal tag on the radiator support under your air intakes will show a code for its production month and year. I've seen very few with this combination in 1985 IROCs.
Your one of the lucky ones that got the G80 that particular year with the GU6 and J65.
Try using a tooth brush and some Dawn dish soap to remove the residue. Afterwards wax it with a wax that doesn't leave the residue after it dries. There are several of them on the market that work well. I prefer Zaino wax. It is expensive but an excellent non residue wax.
I see that your '85 has the GU6 or 3.42 rear gears which was essentially the G92 performance ratio for that year. It also shows the G80 locking rear and J65 4 way disks on it.
Do you happen to know if the production date is early in the year or mid year, which I suspect it to be, versus a later production date of around April, May, or June. The metal tag on the radiator support under your air intakes will show a code for its production month and year. I've seen very few with this combination in 1985 IROCs.
Your one of the lucky ones that got the G80 that particular year with the GU6 and J65.
My car was built either May 1st or May 2nd in Norwood. Thanks for the tip on the wax removal.
It might have been a west coast shortage at the Van Nuys, California plant on the G80 option. Since you know when yours was built and in May at the Norwood plant. That's good information to gather to see if any other late production cars got it or not versus what plant they were built at in 1985. Thanks for checking.
I Just Bought one. Only Missing a few options:
AG9 Power Seat, Driver Side
AM9 Seat Back, Split Folding Rear
D27 Cover, Locking Rear Storage
K05 Heater, Engine Block
U35 Clock, Quartz
Rear Defrost
Otherwise It has everyting you could order that year. Even the rear wiper. Only 45k Miles.
Hi 86blackiroc,
As far as the body side moldings I have never figured out what happened at the factory. The only interesting thing I have found is that the cars in '85 that had the riveted moldings also had the RPO B9K for 1985 it has been debated about before and never resolved. If there was an an increased demand for body side moldings and if they ran out. Who knows what GM might have decided to do? As far as mine goes I have removed them and replaced them with the stick on type like the '83, '84, '85 '86, '87 had that are thinner as compared to the '88-'92 type. I know they were all black until the '86 and '87 models which were body colors during those years. I decided to paint a set of original black stick on '85 style guards red to match the rest of the car. They turned out great and look great. I'll post pictures soon.
As far as all the "85' California IROC"s they all had 4 wheel disk brakes, but none had G80 which the factory always said that you couldn't get the RPO J65 4 wheel brakes in 1985 without the G80 Posi being ordered with it. Another exception to the standard rules? Or they ran out of G80 units which is what I suspect happened as did with other parts on 3rd gen cars. When they ran out of a particular part that was in demand they gave the consumer whatever they could to fill an order.
The serial number of the rear housing on mine and all the others I've seen is also different than those listed in the parts book for 1985 and doesn't show up until you find it in the 1986 parts and repair manual. I don't have that number off the top of my head but as I recall it starts with a 9 which none of the others did that year as I recall?
The Camaro White book shows 15,355 cars with this option in 1985 but I rarely see this option on any 1985 cars, just as yours doesn't have it. I have one document that shows that only 200-210 were produced that year. So who is right? If you have one let us know. I think I only know of 3 that were produced in 1985 that I have heard of to date so I'm inclined to believe the 200 number is correct and the white book is wrong.
We only used stick on mouldings on Third Gen cars.
01-17-2007, 03:04 PM
