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Old 11-06-2011, 06:27 PM   #1
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Strange 1985 Z28 Color

I found this car for sale on ebay. I love the color, seller thinks it's original but I can't recall ever seeing it before on a 1985 Camaro. Can one of you guys who knows a lot more that I do about factory options tell me if this color was available form the factory in 1985?

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my dad use to have a berlinetta in that color. but i dont recall the year of his, since i was about 4 years old when i saw it and still remember lol. but that honestly does look pretty factory. the nose even has the darkening like most cars do when they age. even the rims look the same color
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Yes, I noticed the darker front bumper cover too. The paint is old even if it's not original. Strangely, the rear bumper cover is a lighter color.



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Here are the 1985 colors.

11 white
12 silver
15 medium gray
19 black
26 dark blue
30 bright blue
50 yellow
54 light yellow
60 light brown
69 copper
75 red
78 maroon

There should be a code on the console lid indicating one of these colors.
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If I recall correctly, gold was an available color in '82 only.
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If I recall correctly, gold was an available color in '82 only.
No, that should be the code 60 in the list above.

Original or not, that looks stunning!
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No, that should be the code 60 in the list above.

Original or not, that looks stunning!
Well, it's sometimes hard to tell true color from a photo. It looks like a metallic gold to me, I guess a code 60 light brown could look like that, was that a metallic color?
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That's a very classy color. I like that.
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Well, it's sometimes hard to tell true color from a photo. It looks like a metallic gold to me, I guess a code 60 light brown could look like that, was that a metallic color?
Yeah, it was metallic. Although, I could have swore dark brown metallic was an '85 color too. Must have been '86 or '87... I know I have seen it before, as well as the light brown shown above.
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How much were they asking for it? Or was it even for sale?
It is a sweet color! Not all original in part though.
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NICE. Ive never seen that color.
Here is where you can find the 85 didnt have copper color (dont quote me) but it did have Yellow Gold. ( http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-ca....asp?year=1985 )
Paint Codes for 1985 Chevy Camaros

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1985 11 WA 3967 White
1985 12 WA 8535 Silver
1985 15 WA 8573 Medium Gray
1985 19 WA 848 Black
1985 26 WA 8596 Dark Blue
1985 30 WA 8587 Bright Blue
1985 50 WA 8740 Yellow Gold
1985 54 WA 8525 Light Yellow
1985 60E WA 8590 Light Chestnut
1985 60W WA 9606 Light Chestnut
1985 69E WA 8591 Russet
1985 69W WA 8607 Russet
1985 75 WA 8537 Blaze Red
1985 78 WA 8524 Dark Red
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NICE. Ive never seen that color.
Here is where you can find the 85 didnt have copper color (dont quote me) but it did have Yellow Gold. ( http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-ca....asp?year=1985 )
Paint Codes for 1985 Chevy Camaros

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1985 11 WA 3967 White
1985 12 WA 8535 Silver
1985 15 WA 8573 Medium Gray
1985 19 WA 848 Black
1985 26 WA 8596 Dark Blue
1985 30 WA 8587 Bright Blue
1985 50 WA 8740 Yellow Gold
1985 54 WA 8525 Light Yellow
1985 60E WA 8590 Light Chestnut
1985 60W WA 9606 Light Chestnut
1985 69E WA 8591 Russet
1985 69W WA 8607 Russet
1985 75 WA 8537 Blaze Red
1985 78 WA 8524 Dark Red
Copper was the "Russet" in your list. "Yellow Gold" is just the yellow that was used on Z28's and IROCs. Light yellow was almost white, it was also used in '84.
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Copper was the "Russet" in your list. "Yellow Gold" is just the yellow that was used on Z28's and IROCs. Light yellow was almost white, it was also used in '84.
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Re: Strange 1985 Z28 Color

It wasn't uncommon that the bumpers or other areas not match up perfectly in color from the factory. Hell, some of us have striped cars from the factory. It just happened.

I'd say the car is probably original, whether it be gold or light brown/chestnut. It does match the interior pretty well. I'd definitely keep it too. It does look quite classy. I've never liked gold or brown cars but I love your car and would drive it in a heartbeat.
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I have never been a fan of that "gold color" on any car. But I must admit it looks kind of cool on a 3rd gen. I would keep it that way, its very unique no doubt about it!
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I like the color a lot. Like I said, I don't recall seeing that color and I've been watching the internet ads pretty closely for the last 8 or 9 months. But I've been mostly looking for IROC-Zs or Z28s, so it may be more common on the RS or the 6 or 4 banger Sport and other models. The only 2 things I don't like about the car are that it has the LG4 with a auto tranny, and it's in Portland OR more than 2000 miles away. Not exactly the car I'm looking for, but if it was nearby I would definitely be thinking about making an offer.
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That is one sweet looking ride.....Love the color combo on that car
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I really like the color on a 3rd gen camaro. If it is the (code 60) that would be light brown. In 1985 that color was only available on the berlinetta, sport coupe, and Z28. It was not offered if you ordered an Iroc Z28 in 1985. The color was discontinued after 3 months of production and only 3,093 cars got this color.

The only thing I find strange is the 145 MPH speedometer when they originally came with a 85 MPH speedometer in 1985? Enlarge the picture of the speedometer and take a look. So, the car's total miles aren't accurate on its current 145 MPH speedometer.

Just looked at the auto check and it shows the true mileage on the car is much higher.

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I really like the color on a 3rd gen camaro. If it is the (code 60) that would be light brown. In 1985 that color was only available on the berlinetta, sport coupe, and Z28. It was not offered if you ordered an Iroc Z28 in 1985. The color was discontinued after 3 months of production and only 3,093 cars got this color.

The only thing I find strange is the 145 MPH speedometer when they originally came with a 85 MPH speedometer in 1985? Enlarge the picture of the speedometer and take a look. So, the car's total miles aren't accurate on its current 145 MPH speedometer.

Just looked at the auto check and it shows the true mileage on the car is much higher.
Yea, I just looked at the vehicle report on the ebay page and it looks like the speedo was likely switched at some point. Hard to tell what the true millage is but it looks to be well over 100K, maybe as high as 150K. I was also noticing the seats, that drivers seat sure looks good for a Camaro with +100K on it, maybe the interior was redone at some point.
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Re: Strange 1985 Z28 Color

There was a guy in Brantford Ontario when i lived there that had the same looking car as posted above. 85 Z28, t-roofs with an LG4/700R4. The color is original and his looks the same as the picture above. More gold in color than "light brown"
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To me, it can't be the original paint job, as the ground effects should be silver or gold. Monotone Z28s never came from the factory.

Either way, its a clean looking car.
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Code 60E WA8590 or 60W WA8606 it's a light metallic brown that appears gold sometimes. Google it for paint chips, or check out the Duplicolor cap...

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It's a rare color, just over 3,000 in 85, and a handful in 86, figure it was offered on the Berlinetta and Sport Coupe, so how many were Z28s? Not many. So much for yellow...

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I'm not sure, but I doubt a silver Z28 had to have gold gfx, or that a gold Z28 had to have silver gfx. It looks like the GFX are gold to me... The paint is damn close to gold, so it looks monochrome.

The gold GFX and wheels in 1985 were that pucky metallic brown more then the usually bright gold.

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I'd say it looks authentic.
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To me, it can't be the original paint job, as the ground effects should be silver or gold. Monotone Z28s never came from the factory.

Either way, its a clean looking car.
The only reason it might look monotone in color is that the gold ground effects in 1985 might have been very close in color to the code 60, light brown. But then with all the miles that are really on the car it could also be a repaint.

Just saw Drew's opinion and I'd agree with that also.
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The only reason it might look monotone in color is that the gold ground effects in 1985 might have been very close in color to the code 60, light brown. But then with all the miles that are really on the car it could also be a repaint
Look at the GFX and the paint directly above them, try to ignore the decal stripes, and hte colors aren't exactly identical. It's just hard to see in the pics. It's really clear on the front bumper cover, where there's no glare.
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We all think it's cool but how many of us would really want to own a barf gold thirdgen with puke tan interior for more than 3 months before it reeked of Burt Reynolds?

It's like having kids, I'll come play with yours for a little bit, but I'll let you keep them and leave after a couple hours. You can have the gold car, and I'll come look at it and admire it once in a while, then when I'm sick of it I'll look back at my bright blue one.
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We all think it's cool but how many of us would really want to own a barf gold thirdgen with puke tan interior for more than 3 months before it reeked of Burt Reynolds?

It's like having kids, I'll come play with yours for a little bit, but I'll let you keep them and leave after a couple hours. You can have the gold car, and I'll come look at it and admire it once in a while, then when I'm sick of it I'll look back at my bright blue one.
I would have no problem living with the exterior/interior color. I would have a lot of trouble living with LG4/700R4 in the car. I would probably be regretting that in less than 3 months, 150 horses(on a good day with everything working right) with an auto tranny just won't do it for me.
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I would have a lot of trouble living with LG4/700R4 in the car. I would probably be regretting that in less than 3 months, 150 horses(on a good day with everything working right) with an auto tranny just won't do it for me.
I agree, I'm done buying slow cars no matter how much I like the styling.
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We all think it's cool but how many of us would really want to own a barf gold thirdgen with puke tan interior for more than 3 months before it reeked of Burt Reynolds?

It's like having kids, I'll come play with yours for a little bit, but I'll let you keep them and leave after a couple hours. You can have the gold car, and I'll come look at it and admire it once in a while, then when I'm sick of it I'll look back at my bright blue one.
I would love to own it, and likely would never get rid of it just because of the color. But I'm odd like that. I also want a copper/copper (or russet/russet) Z28 and a dark metallic brown '84 Z28. I had a light yellow Z28, and I miss that car. One day, my collection of less-common colored Camaros will be complete.
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Yea, I just looked at the vehicle report on the ebay page and it looks like the speedo was likely switched at some point. Hard to tell what the true millage is but it looks to be well over 100K, maybe as high as 150K. I was also noticing the seats, that drivers seat sure looks good for a Camaro with +100K on it, maybe the interior was redone at some point.
Very, very common. I've seen several with the wrong speedo, meaning they've changed it to lower the miles most likely. And that's just the ones dumb enough to put the wrong one in. How many are out there where they used the correct style speedo for that model year? I'm at the point now where I wouldn't trust the mileage on a 3rd Gen unless it was documented.
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Very, very common. I've seen several with the wrong speedo, meaning they've changed it to lower the miles most likely. And that's just the ones dumb enough to put the wrong one in. How many are out there where they used the correct style speedo for that model year? I'm at the point now where I wouldn't trust the mileage on a 3rd Gen unless it was documented.
Usually when a 145 speedo is installed it has nothing to do with setting the miles back and everything to do with having a speedo that registers higher. 85 MPH speedos suck and everyone knows it.
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Silver Camaros had dark charcoal gfx...I have no idea what this thing has/had. Maybe it is two tone...maybe the gold gfx are close enough that it makes it appear monotone.
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That color is a factory color and is called light brown met. 60u . there were only 3093 Camaros built with this color in '85. The color was discontinued early in the model year, so this car is probably a early '85. I can only remember seeing one '85 in this color, it was a sport coupe and it was the first '85 Camaro our local dealer got in the fall of 1984.
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that car would be sweet if the ground effects and bumpesr matched the rest of the car.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:00 AM   #34
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Only 3 were made in this light brown code 60 color in 1986. Just think how rare the car would be if it was an '86!
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Usually when a 145 speedo is installed it has nothing to do with setting the miles back and everything to do with having a speedo that registers higher. 85 MPH speedos suck and everyone knows it.
Whatever, it is still highly suspect to me to change a car's speedometer. And is an LG4 like this really fast enough to where you need a 145 MPH speedo? Plus, I've seen one where they changed a single pointer '85 speedo for a double pointer '84 and earlier speedo. The purpose of that was clearly to lower the miles. Just something you seem to see on these cars with disturbing frequency, was all I was pointing out. Cavet emptor, as they say.

Anyway, back to topic, the car looks very nice. If I had to guess, it is an original Code 60 car, and thus a very rare find. One key tip is the door jambs are the same color as the body, as is the engine compartment. I wouldn't expect someone to pay that kind of attention detail to change a color, especially a color (gold) not likely to add value.
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Another tip off -- look at the driver's door stickers. I wish he'd included more close up photos but you can see they're there and intact. Again, if someone had changed the color, I wouldn't expect to see these there either. And the color mismatch between the bumpers and body lends even more legitimacy, as almost all original paint 3rd Gens suffer this (whereas a repaint may not). Me thinks it's legit.

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What gives me faith is the correct black door moldings, and the disco stripes. Two things that usually don't survive a repaint. Looks like it's even got the right lug nuts.
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It will be interesting to see what the car finally sells for. As of the time of this posting with just over 4 days to go on the auction, the bid is up to $1525. I just noticed it's not a reserve auction, which is a little unusual. I also see the seller added a note addressing the odometer readings in the car history report and he no longer claiming the mileage is accurate, but still states he believes it to be a totally original car. Based on what I've seen on ebay over the past 6 months or so I would expect this car to bring in the range of $4000-$5000, lets see what happens.
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What gives me faith is the correct black door moldings, and the disco stripes. Two things that usually don't survive a repaint. Looks like it's even got the right lug nuts.
Good call. The stripes also would have been unlikely to survive a repaint. Here they look original and are all there at the right height all the way around the car.

I'm not a personal fan of T-tops or the LG4, and the speedo change is disappointing. But, if the price is right, this could be a great deal for someone. Looks like a pretty well-kept and unmodified car, especially given its likely high mileage (136k as of 1997, wow!). Engine bay looks practically clean enough to eat off of, which means they either had an outstanding detailer or someone took care of it. I hope whoever buys it doesn't butcher it up or heavily modify it.
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... Engine bay looks practically clean enough to eat off of, which means they either had an outstanding detailer or someone took care of it. I hope whoever buys it doesn't butcher it up or heavily modify it.

Me too!
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Me too!
I almost want to buy it just to protect it, LOL! If this was an L69 or LB9, I'd be quing up my esnipe account
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long time ago a used car dealers daughter had a 82 crossfire z28 in the gold color. she never kept it washed but i thought it was a great looking color on the camaros. steve
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I almost want to buy it just to protect it, LOL! If this was an L69 or LB9, I'd be quing up my esnipe account
Please do! This car needs a loving home. Someone will probably buy the car just because it's a good deal, then proceed to paint it a different color and change the interior to black.
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We all think it's cool but how many of us would really want to own a barf gold thirdgen with puke tan interior for more than 3 months before it reeked of Burt Reynolds?

It's like having kids, I'll come play with yours for a little bit, but I'll let you keep them and leave after a couple hours. You can have the gold car, and I'll come look at it and admire it once in a while, then when I'm sick of it I'll look back at my bright blue one.
That seems a bit uncalled for.
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That seems a bit uncalled for.
Are you offended?

Gold on tan? No thanks. Personally, gold easily ranks on the bottom of the color spectrum for colors I'd want on a vehicle I own. Couple that with the fact that tan also easily ranks on the bottom of the color spectrum for colors I'd want inside my vehicle, it's not hard to understand why I wouldn't care to actually own it. Perhaps gold wouldn't be quite as unstomachable if once in a while one was built with a black gut, but it's always nasty tan inside. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate its uniqueness and even think it's kind of cool in its own way, but I definitely wouldn't want it in my driveway beyond the initial novelty period.

I'd rather drive a chocolate brown car, but that would inevitably be saddled with nasty tan interior too. Some '80s cars were cool, but many of the colors surely weren't. Even with a $10k paint job on that car, it would still just reek of chest hair, tacky jewelry, aviators, hawaiian shirts, and nicotine.

Personally I can't picture anyone other than Burt behind the wheel of that one.
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Personally I can't picture anyone other than Burt behind the wheel of that one.
And unfortunately, you'd have to bleach up the tires just to get them to spin and dub in fast engine sounds like they had to do for Burt's '80 turbo T/A in Smokey and the Bandit II.

I'm not a fan of gold either but you've got to give it credit for being unique and, especially, for going so many miles while remaining unmolested. And that gold color will probably keep the price down to a very reasonable level.

That said, I just couldn't bring myself to buy an LG4, particularly one with an automatic AND t-tops. I wouldn't even be able to outrun my local parking cop's Chevy Aveo. If it were an L69, I'd put my aversion to the color aside and throw in a low bid on it.
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I'd rather drive a chocolate brown car, but that would inevitably be saddled with nasty tan interior too. Some '80s cars were cool, but many of the colors surely weren't. Even with a $10k paint job on that car, it would still just reek of chest hair, tacky jewelry, aviators, hawaiian shirts, and nicotine.
Those reasons you listed are exactly why I like the car. I love the time warp back to all that crap from the 80s. Well, I can do without the chest hair and nicotine you listed. I'm new here and looking for a thirdgen, this car doesn't meet my wants for reasons other than the color, but I'd love to have one in brown or this color, simply because almost no one else has/wants one. That being said, I'd love to have one in the same blue as yours though too. Either one would be good but there is already a blue car in my garage....and a tan over tan car I'm sure would make you throw up in your mouth a little
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I agree, I'm done buying slow cars no matter how much I like the styling.
Not to get off topic, but, what would you buy? Why not make your car faster and keep the styling and color you like so much?
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Not to get off topic, but, what would you buy? Why not make your car faster and keep the styling and color you like so much?
I'll be keeping the car, but for future purchases, be it daily drivers, weekend toys, whatever, I won't buy anything slow again. I love both my Camaro and my Mustang but they are both considered turd years, but I knew that when I bought them...just want something that goes next time around. Next time around in a few years it'll be a 2011+ 5.0, a Challenger if they give it some more power since it gets slaughtered by the new Mustang/Camaro every single time, a newish Camaro if they redo the ugly front end and make it look less like a clown car and steal interior styling ideas from the other two, maybe an M3, a 335i, a 370Z, whatever. Really not willing to get behind the wheel of anything sub 300 hp and anything slower than 13s next time. My Stang scoots pretty good given the 5 speed and the factory 3.27s which are uncommon, but still at best it's a high 14 second car. Has a K&N FIPK II on it, other than that the only plans are an X pipe/Flows, lowering it, and tinting it and enjoying it for a few years, just threw a new set of Yokohama YK580s on it last Friday and had a 4 wheel alignment done at the dealer. Camaro probably runs a high 16.

I just want to get something that just goes on its own out of the box, nice and smooth, the way the factory intended...don't want to have to mod it beyond intake/exhaust/lowering to get it there. Just want to drop my dimes and pick up a smooth, fast, reliable car.

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I can fully appreciate where the Puma is coming from.

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