klause83z28

Same thing here.

Gunnar1

Searched for the black iroc....nothing...

Caveman305

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Anyone willing to trade 2 kitts

I'll give you 1 red and 1 black Iroc

I H8 WWD

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A Ford buddy of mine who also happens to love the F-Body's has got me both of these. The Trans-Am a year or so ago and the 2012 IROC just a month ago. He's always looking out for the best. He got himself one as well, but gave me the one in better packaging, swell guy.

Project-RS

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picked up 4 black irocs today. so thats 9 kitts, 6 black irocs and 2 red irocs. and about 200 third and fifth gens. all different and sealed

3rdgenparts

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My haul is 25 KITTS,20 black Irocs and 12 red Irocs



And thanks to Jason444 on some GREAT trades, you rock man !!!!


Dave

fbodyalltheway

Got 2 more black irocs today. Still looking for someone that has Kitts to trade.

my82roc

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15 black irocs,15 red irocs and 12 kitts for me

Krik

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I don't think they made as many Kitts as they did the IROCs. At least that's what I am seeing.

TheEndofanEra

Anybody ever seen one of the black IROCs with "Hot Wheels" across the top of the winshield? I saw another black one today and grabbed it, thought maybe I could paint it when I do my car. (because I'd have 1 KITT, 1 Red IROC, 1 Black IROC and 1 rally red modded one like mine) Anyway, I got home from Walmart this afternoon and popped it open and saw it had one of those banners.. Wierd, but kind of neat. I've never seen a Hot Wheels with a window banner before. :?

my82roc

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I read that there is suppose to be a walmart exclusive black Iroc with the hot wheels banner across the windshield.Was it just mixed in with the rest of the hot wheels?

TheEndofanEra

Yeah, just mixed in with the rest on the shelf, nothing different about the packaging or anything. The first one I got there didn't have a banner, so I just assumed this one wouldn't either lol

SpeedDemon91

Picked these up today at Dollar Tree! I'm hoping soon they will have the black ones

Krik

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Tuske427, what is the deal with the windshield banner?

1983Chimaera

So far I have;
3 KITTs
3 Black IROC-Zs without the banner
3 Black IROC-Zs with the banner
4 Red IROC-Z's

Plus one Black IROC-Z with the banner I opened and gave to my 1 y/o daughter...gotta start her out on F-Bodies early!

SpeedDemon91

I know I'm not Tuske427, but the windshield banner is a Wal*Mart exclusive

Krik

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I know, but I would still like to hear him chime in on the subject.

1983Chimaera

SpeedDemon91

Sweet!! Wish I had a Black IROC! And a KITT

1983Chimaera

You should see my Johnny Lightning collection...unfortunately, JL never had but the one mold, the '82-'84 Z28, and they kept re-issuing it with different paint schemes and packaging thru the years...Kinda bugs me, since they have at least 2 different 1st, 2nd, and 4th gen Camaro molds. We 3rd Gen guys always get shafted!

1983Chimaera

This is the AMT/Ertl 1:25th scale 1983 Z28 model, built to show how horrible my '83 looked when I bought her. Under the rear hatch are a pair of orange painted perimeter bolt valve covers, an alternator, a small cap V8 distributor, a starter, a 14" air cleaner, a water pump pulley, a main crank pulley, and the Y-pipe with catalytic converter...Exactly as I found them when I picked up my car. Under the hood is a 1990 RS 305 longblock with a TBI intake installed, but no TBI unit, and a faded white steel 82-84 Z28 hood. The paint on the car really did look that bad, it was HORRIBLY orange peeled and bright tangerine orange, with gold and silver 15" wheels and just the one Goodyear Eagle tire with raised white lettering.

detltu

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Now have two black and two red IROCs. One each for my son to play with, and one to keep in the package.

1983Chimaera

Broke out the model paints tonight and detailed one of the Toys R Us edition Black IROC-Z's. Below is comparison with a Wal-Mart edition Black IROC-Z.






I did this on my Hot Wheels DeLorean Time Machine as well. Painting that small is a b*tch (which is why the front grill looks more like it says "MAACO" than "CAMARO"). I'm still happy with it, going to paint at least two more, one like my '83 Z28 and one like my '88 IROC-Z. Picked up 3 more Toys R Us edition black IROC-Z's tonight, and a friend is still holding 2 more for me, so plenty to spare! I plan on doing the same detail painting to one of the red IROC-Z's and a KITT. You can't see it very well in the pics, but the interior is detailed as well. I drill out the rivets carefully to pull it apart, then superglue it back together afterwards. I usually superglue the packaging back closed also to preserve my work.

Linson

okay. umm, why did you do that?

Linson

okay - i just have to take a crap on this thread, since it wont die. not that we're obsessing over a childrens' toy, because i too enjoy Hotwheels (for my kids) and think it would be nice to have *better* Third Gen representation. but the fact of the matter is, these castings look like crap. does not look like an IROC at all. if anything it looks like a Berlinetta or something beaten with an ugly stick. and it practically has "donk" wheels. at scale those would be about 30-inch wheels on the back. and the car is damn near taller than it is wide. Hotwheels does not represent our cars well. same thing on a 3rd Gen Firebird - no Formula, no GTA, just a crappy looking turd that they call an "84 Trans Am." 5.0 Mustangs too. i bought one for my son and it's the same as the IROC. funky red color, huge, goofy wheels, and it appears to be a bigger car than a 1970 Chevelle. i only say all this because so many people seem estatic over this $.97 toy car. it doesnt even look good.

Krik

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if you are not into it then don't be into it. Those of us that are having fun don't give a damn what you have to say. IMO they got it close enough. For $0.88 I will take all I can get and have fun playing with them.

Linson

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umm...not even close.
uhh...how old are you?

Caveman305

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I'm 23 have a massive collection of these hotwheels, all for myself and my car hobby,

As stated before hotwheels are ment to resemble the cars as closely as possible without costing $5 like the decent scale model cars

They are ment to be ran on a track by children, but because of the fact they have cars that gear heads are into, adults decide to collect them,

And idk which Irocs and 92 GTs you are looking at but for .97 they are pretty damn decent

Krik

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Linson, You cannot tell me my opinions are wrong. They are my opinions therefore ther are 100% correct.

Since you appear to be about 14 to 15 years old (an educated guess based on the content and character of your replies) I would say that I am old enough to be your father.
Lining up the models (Hot Wheels) and looking at the with a magnifying glass and comparing them to each other is a stress reducing activity. It is about as cheap of a hobby as you can get, and I enjoy it. I have a couple of higher-end models of 5th generation cars as well. They are built better, and the creators have spent a great deal of time focusing on the details. Those models cost 5-6 times as much as the Hot Wheels cars do. If given the opportunity to buy a 3rd gen model made by the same manufacturer, I would. Until that happens, I will work with what I have.

Caveman305

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Kirk idk how it ended up saying I quoted you, but obviously you understand I was quoting linson, I will edit my post

Linson

well, boo-hoo. look. i'm not saying that there's anything wrong with buying Hotwheels (an adult having a collection of a couple hundred seems over the top, and people buying these up and keeping them in the box like they're going to be worth anything in the future [they'll probably just make more] seems misguided.

but my main point - the point where i evidently stand apart from certain people is that certain people seem estatic, in fact the title of this thread seems estatic --"Finally!!!" yeah, finally there's an IROC, but unfortunately it looks like crap. i buy hotwheels for my kids, and most of them look a damn good representation of the real deal. 68 Nova looks like a 68-74 Nova, 5th Gen Camaros and Late Model Mustangs look the part. on these third gens, its like they're saying "third gens are crappy cars from a crappy decade anyway, so here is a crappy rendition of one." so, to them, [our cars] did not deserve a more realistic rendering. this is just how i feel based on the looks of the model. that is why i didnt buy one for my kids when i saw it at Walmart several months ago. i looked at it and i was like, "yuck."

opinions can be wrong. some people have the opinion that the Twilight Movies are excellent. they are wrong. your opinion that these Hotwheels look good or similar to an IROC in any positive way is wrong. all one has to do is LOOK at the thing whilst having a vague idea of what an IROC should look like. the angles are all wrong. the stance is all wrong. the attitude is all wrong. and its UGLY. you dont think IROCs are ugly do you?

TheEndofanEra

Clearly, you're offended by the quality of this hotwheels, and I agree that buying every one at the store is a little over the top, but there's no need to be so hostile to those who do like or think the IROC model is a good representation. I personally think its okay, definatly better than the new 67(?) Mustang Hot Wheels, but again, thats my opinion.

And an opinion can't be wrong - that's the nature of an opinion, just because a majority of people agree, doesn't make it true. I hate to use the flat earth thing, but just because 97% of people used to believe the earth was flat didn't make it true.

And I think IROCs are great looking cars, though I prefer the 90-92 Z28s. The strange thing is, I've got one of these hotwheels with me, and I'm looking at my mostly assembled RS, and they look very similar, angles and all to me.

Linson

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fair enough.

i think youre making my point. there are still people who have the opinion that the earth is flat. they are wrong, just as the 97 percent that were wrong 500 years ago. some have the opinion that the earth is 6000 years old. they too are wrong. some people have the opinion that Carlos Mencia is funny. they are wrong also.

well, i am taking your post seriously, so it is odd to hear you say that.

TheEndofanEra

I'm taking you seriously as well.

But what I'm saying is "the Earth is round", is a quantitive opinion, in that it can be proven using mathematical formulas and other measurable and documentable methods. Carlos Mencia being funny on the other hand is a qualitive opinion, there isn't a way to scientifically prove that he's not funny. And a poll asking people whether they find him funny isn't a way to measure how funny he is, it's only a gauge of how many people find him funny - that would just be measuring people's opinions.

Now, whether or not the '85 Hot Wheels IROC looks good falls within the second catagory, with Carlos' Comidian talents or lack there-of. Its an qualitive opinion, and thus unprovable, except by poll of the public, but that wouldn't prove anything - it would just tell you that X% like it and Y% don't - not whether it actually looks good. So you can't really say its wrong without that being an opinion unless you have indisputable numerical evidence, such as the angle of the windshield being off by 20* from an actual 85 IROC.

Linson

TheEndofanEra

That's still a qualitive comparison. Most of our opinion is that it's a reasonable facimile (better than the "blown Z28") to an actual IROC, we have no conclusive evidence to this other than opinion to back that up. The same for your distaste for it.
Now, we're not saying its perfect, just that it's a marked improvement over what they were offering before.

And honestly, you know as well as I do, that nothing I say is going to change your mind, just as nothing you say is going to change mine.

Caveman305

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The funny thing is I know I can sell most of my packaged hotwheels collection for 2-3 times what I paid, seeing as that is only about $3 per car most people will pay it if they missed buying that specific color/wheel combo

But try selling a Johnny lightning or green light for more than you paid, the only way you could make money is if you have an extremely limited edition car or it's a white lightning edition car, paying $5-$10 for a toy "collector car" puts it at the top of a price scale for what people are normally willing to pay for a car that size, so to me it is worth keeping 90% of the cars from any company in package to look at,

Not even for the fact I think I can make money, because I'm not in this hobby to make, but rather spend my money on something I personally enjoy

And yes I'm excited that company's are actually returning to and giving the third generation f-body's another chance

Caveman305

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Just got 2 k.i.t.t's at target, my collection is nearly complete just need the camaros with banners

tuske427

Wow, you really need to lighten up. Yes, that is my opinion. Furthermore, I don't think you understand the difference between an opinion and a fact.

Opinions are just that. They are not right or wrong. You can agree with them or disagree with them. You would be wrong to think that opinions are wrong, especially if they differ from your opinions.

Facts can be right or wrong. They are not opinions. Disagreeing with facts only makes the one who is disagreeing wrong.

Opinion- you don't like the IROC. OK, noted. You stated your reasons why, and, as the designer of this car, I can respect that. But it's your opinion and only that. I won't lose any sleep over it.

Fact- this is a popular casting and it is selling well. It is not a "peg warmer". They are not filling up store pegs. (at least not that I have seen or heard feedback on) I go to my local stores often and do not see these castings there. Other castings I see all the time.

As for your comments about the proportions being out of whack- you are technically correct. Proportions are intentionally altered. Every Hot Wheels car is like that, even the ones you think look right. If you took actual dimensions of a real car and shrank it down to 1:64 it would look strange. You wouldn't like it. Windows would look huge (like some cartoonish bubble top), wheels would look way too small, overhangs would be weird, etc. Therefore proportions are adjusted to capture the "look" of the real car. It's a judgement call. Whether we nailed it or not is an opinion. There is no mathematical formula to it. We do our best. Conversely, if you took a 1:64 car and blew it up to 1:1 scale, again, you wouldn't like it. The wheels would be huge, it might look chopped, slammed, etc. (all facts)

What you also don't realize are the many rules, regulations and constraints placed on the development of 1:64 diecast car regarding safety, track performance, and cost, to name a few. I promise you it's not nearly as easy as you might think. Is the car expected to be a track performance car? if yes, there are adjustments made to make it through loops, around curves, function through boosters, etc. This is far different than requirements for an adult collectible casting. Track is a fixed width. Axles are fixed sizes. We have other cars in the assortment to consider scale to. As a result, compromises are made to consider all of these, and more. Then there are marketing directions, as well as opinions of management, etc. Different years have different themes. And, above all else, this is a kids toy that retails for about a dollar. (again, all facts)

Furthermore, the fact that for over 40 years these have been developed for the retail price of $1.00 (fact) is beyond incredible (opinion). I challenge you to name another product that has been on the market and kept the same price for over 40 years.

I H8 WWD

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Brother just surprised me with this. That makes 2.

V8Broski

I have a Tub full of like 800+ Hot Wheels from when i was a kid anyways i Just Bought one! Haha I've never seen them in any wal-mart or any store and i don't usually shop at Dollar stores but i was with somebody at Dollar Tree Today, under all the unsold hot wheels from the 2011 and 2012 series there was one IROC-Z and i got all geeky. people that Passed bye where looking at me, like is that a grown man going threw the hot wheels? Haha i got the IROC-Z28,A-Team GMC Van,87 Buick Grand National,67 Chevelle SS 396 and a 70 Monte Carlo SS. They were a dollar a car and the IROC got me motivated to pick up some goodies.

thedjs

All the pictures of Hot wheels reminded me of some AFX slotcars that the kids and I used to play with. Since those days I just put the colection away but I have over 50 cars, trucks and pickups. I went and dug some of them out just for a picture, there just a few Firebirds, Camaros and Corvettes.

yo soy el warg

Nice bunch of slot cars. I don't have any Camaros or Firebirds but I do have 2 Corvettes from the past.

my82roc

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I have that pale blue 2nd gen along with this afx 3rd gen.Sorry for the poor cell phone pics

Gunnar1

Well put...I couldn't agree more!

It's a freakin toy! If you like it collect it ....If you don't like it don't collect it but there's no need to come down hard on this car! Oh and I love it and collect it.

tuske427

Speed Demon is right- the banner deco on the IROC is a Wal-Mart exclusive. Hot Wheels has been known to do that from time to time. They'll add extra deco on a vehicle or alter the package to make it different/ unique for that retailer. Sometimes you'll see lettering deco (Good Year, etc) on the wheels, or different wheels altogether. Target has had some alternate artwork on the package before as well. It gives collectors another variation to collect and makes retailers happy because they go to their store to get it.

Krik

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Thank you

tonys91rs

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ive collected so many of these that i started custom paint wheels and so on. i even have two convertables ives tinkered with. i did come across about ten walmart banner cars if anyoneis still looking.

my82roc

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How much do you want for a walmart banner car?

V8Broski

What's a Wal-Mart banner car? What's different? I got mine from dollar tree