89 Formula 350 Convertible
03-26-2015, 09:38 AM
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89 Formula 350 Convertible
Anyone looking for a unique car? Well here is your chance... I believe this is might be the lowest miles Formula 350 convertible out there. with only 12,700 miles.
For miles here is what I have.
2 cars I do not have any information, I need a carfax and autocheck on them, and I am to cheep to get them right now.
four cars had the last mileage recorded in 1989, they are 10, 15 & 18, and 1,104 miles.
Here are the rest
12,700 - The car in the ad below
24,619 - (Car was salvaged in Phoenix AZ 1997)
36,000 - My car
39,670 - Car has been verified
So if you really want something that is unique... Here ya go.
http://classiccars.com/listings/view...ick-ohio-43004
3-27-15 Edit: added 2nd pic
For miles here is what I have.
2 cars I do not have any information, I need a carfax and autocheck on them, and I am to cheep to get them right now.
four cars had the last mileage recorded in 1989, they are 10, 15 & 18, and 1,104 miles.
Here are the rest
12,700 - The car in the ad below
24,619 - (Car was salvaged in Phoenix AZ 1997)
36,000 - My car
39,670 - Car has been verified
So if you really want something that is unique... Here ya go.
http://classiccars.com/listings/view...ick-ohio-43004
3-27-15 Edit: added 2nd pic
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03-26-2015, 10:45 AM
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
Dang, values are def going up. Wonder what my clunker is or will be worth..
03-26-2015, 01:22 PM
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
I have 2 yellow bookends
This is the first Formula 350 for sale I have seen in a while... I see quite a few GTAs There is actually one in AZ that is on ebay now... If the GTA had the original seats it would help.
This is the first Formula 350 for sale I have seen in a while... I see quite a few GTAs There is actually one in AZ that is on ebay now... If the GTA had the original seats it would help.
03-26-2015, 02:00 PM
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
Actually... I seem to like Red, yellow and blue Firebirds
Yellow - 87 - LB9/A4/CC1
Yellow - 87 - LB9/M5
Yellow - 87 - LB9/M5/CC1
Red - 89 Formula 350 Convertible
Red - 83 Trans Am (more for parts)
Red - 91 Firebird (more for parts, but I have not picked anything from it)
Maui Blue - 91 Formula (Sold it to make room for the 87 LB9/M5/CC1)
Blue Met - 87 Formula 350 (Sold it to make room for the 89 convertible)
So really I could go several different directions...
John
Yellow - 87 - LB9/A4/CC1
Yellow - 87 - LB9/M5
Yellow - 87 - LB9/M5/CC1
Red - 89 Formula 350 Convertible
Red - 83 Trans Am (more for parts)
Red - 91 Firebird (more for parts, but I have not picked anything from it)
Maui Blue - 91 Formula (Sold it to make room for the 87 LB9/M5/CC1)
Blue Met - 87 Formula 350 (Sold it to make room for the 89 convertible)
So really I could go several different directions...
John
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
Big engine + convertible + low mileage = blue chip collectible.
Price feels high right now, but gut feeling is it's worth it. Too bad it's a dealer, this type of car would be expected to be private sale.
Price feels high right now, but gut feeling is it's worth it. Too bad it's a dealer, this type of car would be expected to be private sale.
03-26-2015, 02:29 PM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
It's condition vs the condition of mine makes me a bit Jelly!
03-27-2015, 07:19 AM
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
Actually I believe that is Envy or more accurately covetous, not Jealousy you are feeling right now my friend... There is a slight difference between each of them...
In Psychology they are each a bit different...
To Covet means you desire something that someone else has
To Envy means you do not believe the other person deserves it as much as you do.
To be Jealous means you literally fear the loss of something to someone or something else...
*it takes 3 people to be jealous, in comparison Envy and covet, you only need 2*
However in today's lexicon we seem to use Envy and Jealousy interchangeably even though they are different.
Sorry for the tangent
Edit: I suppose if you feel that your Convertible will love that convertible more because it is prettier than you, then you could feel jealousy...
In Psychology they are each a bit different...
To Covet means you desire something that someone else has
To Envy means you do not believe the other person deserves it as much as you do.
To be Jealous means you literally fear the loss of something to someone or something else...
*it takes 3 people to be jealous, in comparison Envy and covet, you only need 2*
However in today's lexicon we seem to use Envy and Jealousy interchangeably even though they are different.
Sorry for the tangent
Edit: I suppose if you feel that your Convertible will love that convertible more because it is prettier than you, then you could feel jealousy...
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03-27-2015, 07:39 AM
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261826522660?item=261826522660&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true
88 GTA LB9/A4 19K It can be yours for $33,950
Personally I would take the Formula 350, call me crazy
88 GTA LB9/A4 19K It can be yours for $33,950
Personally I would take the Formula 350, call me crazy
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
Actually I believe that is Envy or more accurately covetous, not Jealousy you are feeling right now my friend... There is a slight difference between each of them...
In Psychology they are each a bit different...
To Covet means you desire something that someone else has
To Envy means you do not believe the other person deserves it as much as you do.
To be Jealous means you literally fear the loss of something to someone or something else...
*it takes 3 people to be jealous, in comparison Envy and covet, you only need 2*
However in today's lexicon we seem to use Envy and Jealousy interchangeably even though they are different.
Sorry for the tangent
Edit: I suppose if you feel that your Convertible will love that convertible more because it is prettier than you, then you could feel jealousy...
In Psychology they are each a bit different...
To Covet means you desire something that someone else has
To Envy means you do not believe the other person deserves it as much as you do.
To be Jealous means you literally fear the loss of something to someone or something else...
*it takes 3 people to be jealous, in comparison Envy and covet, you only need 2*
However in today's lexicon we seem to use Envy and Jealousy interchangeably even though they are different.
Sorry for the tangent
Edit: I suppose if you feel that your Convertible will love that convertible more because it is prettier than you, then you could feel jealousy...
03-27-2015, 09:10 AM
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03-27-2015, 01:32 PM
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
It is.. But at the same time, it is one of those cars that
1) is more rare than the beloved 1LE (how many hundred 1LE cars are out there)
2) Is more rare than the run of the mill TTA
3) Has the 350 (same as the 1LE)
4) It is a Convertible, although technically it does not have the convertible VIN, it is the same as a Factory Camaro Convertible, so finding parts is not difficult (which is a problem for other convertible conversions like Hi-Line, Matrix 3, or several other conversions)
5) Fun factor... My convertible is probably the most fun to drive out of all of my cars. Nothing like putting the top down...
The car is red, which to some is a turn off, but for the most part the perfect color for a sporty RWD car
Most people do not think the 1LE that sold for $30+ was worth it, or the Yellow IROC that was as high as $30K+ was worth it either... it is a lot of coin, no doubt about it. BUT if you want the lowest miles one out there that I am aware of (I know of 41 of the 43 known (might be 2-5 more but I doubt it))
I personally do not have the extra funds right now, even if I did, I have one, even moreso I really do not have the room for another...
Pure and simple it is the fastest 3rd gen "convertible" you would ever find with the exception of the 2 TTA convertibles and lone Firehawk convertible...
John
1) is more rare than the beloved 1LE (how many hundred 1LE cars are out there)
2) Is more rare than the run of the mill TTA
3) Has the 350 (same as the 1LE)
4) It is a Convertible, although technically it does not have the convertible VIN, it is the same as a Factory Camaro Convertible, so finding parts is not difficult (which is a problem for other convertible conversions like Hi-Line, Matrix 3, or several other conversions)
5) Fun factor... My convertible is probably the most fun to drive out of all of my cars. Nothing like putting the top down...
The car is red, which to some is a turn off, but for the most part the perfect color for a sporty RWD car
Most people do not think the 1LE that sold for $30+ was worth it, or the Yellow IROC that was as high as $30K+ was worth it either... it is a lot of coin, no doubt about it. BUT if you want the lowest miles one out there that I am aware of (I know of 41 of the 43 known (might be 2-5 more but I doubt it))
I personally do not have the extra funds right now, even if I did, I have one, even moreso I really do not have the room for another...
Pure and simple it is the fastest 3rd gen "convertible" you would ever find with the exception of the 2 TTA convertibles and lone Firehawk convertible...
John
03-30-2015, 07:54 AM
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Re: 89 Formula 350 Convertible
PMD, I will give you my best answer...
From the 37 of the 173 1987 Convertibles I have Verified, I know of 1, just 1... And it was actually made into a Tojan... There was also one LB9/A4 Formula.. I know of no other LB9/MM5 Cars in 1987...
From the 17 of the 104 1988 Convertibles I have verified, I know of 0, not a single Formula LB9/MM5... There was 1 GTA, and 1 Trans AM however with the combo.
1989, is not much better, With the introduction of the 350, there was only 9 GTA or Trans Am convertibles with the LB9, and the only one I have record of has the auto... And of the 16 known Formula LB9 convertibles I have record of 1, and it has an Auto...
So needless to say the LB9/M5 in a convertible would be ultra rare...
As for the production on the Formula 350... Let me say firstly, that 10 is wrong, dead wrong, I have verified 15... So unfortunately the letter is worthless. The actual number according to the dealer order logs is actually 43, there was one car that moved into the GTA list because 2 numbers had been transposed... 6 of those 43 have a salvage title (when I did my research 5 years ago)... 2 Had a blue top (one remains), 4 had a tan top, and only 3 remain. The remainder have a Black top.
As for the 50 number that likes to circulate around the internet on the GTA/TA 350 convertibles the number is actually 143, I know of 40...
It somewhat fluctuates as I have found errors in the data that I had to correct but right now I have not found any more uncorrected errors...
Keep in mind that of the 330 reported convertibles by ASC... 4 there is no record of, 10 all went to one place "Physician's Auto Leasing" and none of them come back with any record in the US or Europe... And my list only had 124, One other was found that was not on the list, so I am missing 5 VINS...
Hope that helps
From the 37 of the 173 1987 Convertibles I have Verified, I know of 1, just 1... And it was actually made into a Tojan... There was also one LB9/A4 Formula.. I know of no other LB9/MM5 Cars in 1987...
From the 17 of the 104 1988 Convertibles I have verified, I know of 0, not a single Formula LB9/MM5... There was 1 GTA, and 1 Trans AM however with the combo.
1989, is not much better, With the introduction of the 350, there was only 9 GTA or Trans Am convertibles with the LB9, and the only one I have record of has the auto... And of the 16 known Formula LB9 convertibles I have record of 1, and it has an Auto...
So needless to say the LB9/M5 in a convertible would be ultra rare...
As for the production on the Formula 350... Let me say firstly, that 10 is wrong, dead wrong, I have verified 15... So unfortunately the letter is worthless. The actual number according to the dealer order logs is actually 43, there was one car that moved into the GTA list because 2 numbers had been transposed... 6 of those 43 have a salvage title (when I did my research 5 years ago)... 2 Had a blue top (one remains), 4 had a tan top, and only 3 remain. The remainder have a Black top.
As for the 50 number that likes to circulate around the internet on the GTA/TA 350 convertibles the number is actually 143, I know of 40...
It somewhat fluctuates as I have found errors in the data that I had to correct but right now I have not found any more uncorrected errors...
Keep in mind that of the 330 reported convertibles by ASC... 4 there is no record of, 10 all went to one place "Physician's Auto Leasing" and none of them come back with any record in the US or Europe... And my list only had 124, One other was found that was not on the list, so I am missing 5 VINS...
Hope that helps
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