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1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

Coming up at Barrett Jackson Scottsdale AZ Lot # 1245



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Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

I always liked these. It will be interesting to see what it goes for.

Is that white overspray on the exhaust behind the front wheel in the first photo?
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Looks like its just light reflecting off of the lower side air deflector
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If we all chip in just the cost of a cup of coffee, we can get this poor unfortunate automobile a proper hatch glass.
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I've always liked cars that were different....but this one may be too different.

On the fence about what I think.
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Very interesting and exotic for sure. But wow some of the 80's designs just throw me off! lol
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It looks like a station wagon
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Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

Edited: The first ones (at least f-bodies that were shown to the public) were done in the late 70s with 2ndgen cars.

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Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

And the idea predates that...

http://autosofinterest.com/2012/04/2...ros-1st-gen/4/

http://carnewshq.com/2016/08/13/miss...ght-of-day-38/
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It goes all the way back to the original Vettes

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Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

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Coming up at Barrett Jackson Scottsdale AZ Lot # 1245
Looks like a deformed Dodge Magnum.
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Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

Nice "Ornament" for those with throw away $$$$. IIRC this car is NOT street legal


There is or was ?? a wagon with Recaro seats


That's the one I want !!!!!!!!!
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Looks like a deformed Dodge Magnum.

Ya but this wagon won't blow a transmission at 50K miles or have a TON of electrical issues


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It will be fun to watch but I've watched countless hours of Barrett-Jackson & yet to see them cover a 3rd gen.....usually a commercial break!
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There were a couple of versions of this.


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That vette doesn't look bad. The firebirds on the other hand... do.
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And I'm sure most people will remember this Nissan Pulsar with either t-tops, wagon hatch, and regular hatch.
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And I'm sure most people will remember this Nissan Pulsar with either t-tops, wagon hatch, and regular hatch.
I remember those & they were not a big success in wagon form.
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Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

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There were a couple of versions of this.
There's an above average chance that a few of those are actually the same car with a different paint job and emblems. That GTA obviously is not a GTA, note the Recaro seats. It's likely an earlier car that got redecorated.

Someone at GM had a real hard-on for the Kammback. Paint it any color you like, it doesn't make it any less hideous.
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Can't say I would want to drive this myself, but it's certainly an interesting piece of history. It's unique enough that people are either going to think it's cool or flat hate it. Friend of mine drives a hearse (as a DD) and gets the same type of response.

Keeping an eye on the thread; I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks. Would be neat if someone on the forums bought it and we got to see more pictures.
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I believe I read somewhere, the Black and Red ones are the same car. I think the white one is another one.
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Even Ferrari did it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrar...T_SWB_Breadvan
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And Jaguar.
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Before the SUV and Minivans the station wagon was king for families. Coming from a family of 5 kids we had a couple over the years. I was the youngest so I always got the back facing rear seat and was the kid who made faces at the drivers behind us. Wasn't nearly as fun when we pulled our travel trailer behind us though!

GM had a long history of taking production cars and making station wagons. 57 Chevy's, Malibu's, etc all got that treatment.

However the sports car was always a hard sell at corporate headquarters. From the Corvettes above to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gen Camaro and Firebirds, GM or other private crafters were always tinkering with the idea.

Their most serious attempt was the 77 Firebird that they considered for a time. GM fiddled with the idea for 2 years. They started with 2 but destroyed one of them and added/deleted parts and colors several times over that time period. Ending up with a car that looked more like the 79 Trans Am. That car is still in GM's archives. Below is part of an article talking about a southern California company that sold Fiberglass kits for the conversion. They sold for around 15K. Considering the Trans Ams of the day were selling for 6-7K, that was quite a bit of cash to customize them. I saw one of these for sale in Vegas about a year ago.

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Here are some of the pictures I've collected over the years.



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Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

To me the third gens were the least practical. It would be cool as a car show vehicle but as Drew said, its just a different hatch. What serious sports car buyer would buy one!

It really doesn't add that much room, and even in the day, would not have been a big seller. Besides who would take one the the hardware store for 2x4's and it doesn't even have back facing seats.
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Sports cars are not supposed to be practical. We make them practical. Like seeing a person go into an Ikea, come out with tons of crap, and try to fit it into their tiny Miata and drive onto the 405 Freeway.
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Going through a previous threat, I came across a comment that the person who owns the Kammback also owns The Twin Turbo Firebird that owned the GM track speed record. It was only beaten by the latest Corvette models. Wouldn't that be an interesting item if auctioned!
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Since the 50'start GM has been toying with the idea of a wagon sports car. Greenwood & even Callaway in 2016 was building one..... all are pretty bad ideas.










The UGLIEST BY FAR

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How would one of these hatches affect the aero of the car? Better/worse?
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YES!

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Wow. Might be the top 5 ugly list. Gremlin butt and Vette front do not go together.
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Having seen the red "GTA" several times in person, it does indeed have the two-tone brown/beige RECARO seats in it. I like it better than the white one, which I believe has been restored by Scott Tiemann.
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Kind of of topic here but does anyone know of a quick way to search Barret Jackson to see if there would be any thirdgens up for bid this year? Im curious to see if these cars are are making their way to the auction block
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There are 4 up for sale this weekend. The Kammback and these below.

1991 Camaro B4C 14K miles.



This 1984 Trans Am Convertible



And this 1989 Trans Am light Resto Mod.


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Mecum Kissimmee has a greater representation of 3rd gens. Four were under the gavel today. The best of the lot was a 89 TTA with 50k miles for $12,000. Nice deal a Camaro sold for 9.5K and the other two topped out 8k bids. The last 2 were one of the last 6 cars up today and not much was selling well then.
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Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

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There are 4 up for sale this weekend. The Kammback and these below.

1991 Camaro B4C 14K miles.



This 1984 Camaro Convertible



And this 1989 Trans Am light Resto Mod.

2nd sure looks like a bird to me
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Camaro vert?? Someone spelled Trans Am wrong!
Light resto mod??? Spelled "Don P Top fuel funny car" !!

Just busting chops, cool cars!
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Good Spot. Late night post.
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Coming up at Barrett Jackson Scottsdale AZ Lot # 1245





I used to think it was a white 1988 Notchback I saw at the Fisher Building in the mid 80s, but now, with this one pictured, I am thinking it was this car.

Each GM division used to display at the lobbies of various GM offices around Detroit. It was standard practice, and cool.
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Transmission: TH-350
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3:23
Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

Wow no love for this Bandit 3 Promo '82 T/A at Barrett Jackson Scottsdale ??

I'm drooling on this car. Only 30K miles and the right "options" as everyone's FAVORITE third gen and that low VIN # W/LU5 Crossfire might = Aluminum Hood car ??

I would KILL for those N89 wheels/B.B Caps and G.E GT tires !!!!!!!


Side note. Sucks they have that STUPID reynolds cut out blocking view of that SWEET CAR !!


From Auction info:
The only owner of this Bandit-style Trans Am has been the Bandit himself Burt Reynolds. The Fox studio sticker is still on windshield. Burt Reynolds drove this car in Smokey and the Bandit 3. Burt only made a short cameo appearance at the beginning of the movie. This car was given to Mr. Reynolds by Pat Clark Pontiac in Las Vegas who handled celebrity promotions for Pontiac. This Bandit only has 29682 original miles. It comes with copy of title in Burt Reynolds name PHS paperwork and Window Sticker.






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Car: 89 IROC/89 Vert/87 Vert/89 GTA Vert
Engine: 5.7/5.0/5.0/5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9" 2.77/9" 3:23/9" 3:42
Re: 1985 Firebird Kammback Concept for sale

Originally Posted by 3rdgenparts
Wow no love for this Bandit 3 Promo '82 T/A at Barrett Jackson Scottsdale ??

I'm drooling on this car. Only 30K miles and the right "options" as everyone's FAVORITE third gen and that low VIN # W/LU5 Crossfire might = Aluminum Hood car ??

I would KILL for those N89 wheels/B.B Caps and G.E GT tires !!!!!!!


Side note. Sucks they have that STUPID reynolds cut out blocking view of that SWEET CAR !!


From Auction info:
The only owner of this Bandit-style Trans Am has been the Bandit himself Burt Reynolds. The Fox studio sticker is still on windshield. Burt Reynolds drove this car in Smokey and the Bandit 3. Burt only made a short cameo appearance at the beginning of the movie. This car was given to Mr. Reynolds by Pat Clark Pontiac in Las Vegas who handled celebrity promotions for Pontiac. This Bandit only has 29682 original miles. It comes with copy of title in Burt Reynolds name PHS paperwork and Window Sticker.






I'd love a true stock low mile black/TA just like this but without paying an extra $20,000 from Burton Reynolds name attached to it.



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