kizz

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https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...m/1881100.html
^ 1983 T/A, LG4/auto, loaded, silver, 63k miles, mostly stock. 25 photos. roughly how much would this car be worth?

on another page where it's listed, it says excellent condition and no rust. the dealer in SD wants 5900. I'm in NC. they've had it since about 2011 which seems unusually long. I think the pics are from about 2013.

visible concerns include: weatherstripping, driver door trim, mirror switch, shifter plate, locking fuel door, console lid, dash pad, FR fender dent, paint durability, etc. I think at that price it should include WS6, good headliner, everything working including HVAC, any service records, and not-too-ancient tires (they are discontinued - just don't know how old they are).

PurelyPMD

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You can still find a better car for less.

Drew

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I don't understand the attraction. It kinda looks like junk. Did someone rattle can the front 3" of the hood? It doesn't look like anything special. Even if it were half the asking price, I'd still scoff and find something else.

chazman

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I'd move one.

He's almost straight up telling you it has 163K miles, the '82-'83 dash pad will be IMPOSSIBLE to replace, those wheels are gross, what's up with the front of the hood....I could go on.

Vanilla Ice

I don't see what's so bad.
That car in az isn't bad at all.

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Besides the 6k asking price or what.... Only thing I like about it is it seems unmolested. But everything that is there is pretty rough.... And I get the "barn find theme" but that doesnt help this car... idk. Id pass or negotiate a much cheaper price. Id def want to see under the car, pull dip stick's and see whats in her, ect..

Drew

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It looks like all it's missing are some Yosemite Sam "BACK OFF!" mudflaps, giant chrome tail pipes, and giant red Chevy Bowtie outline sticker for the hatch glass and it'd be a typical 90's highschool parking lot car. Add a K40 CB antenna and set the air shocks to kill, and it'd be the perfect one horse ****-hole hotrod.

I can't really put my finger on it, but I really dislike this specific car... I really don't know WHY, it just gives me that gut feeling.

Vanilla Ice

That car in az is a $5k car.
They are driven year round here so miles and wear adds up quick.
Take a look at my vert thread, that's a normal thirdgen for sale here. The nice ones pop up once a year or are way too high priced, like the 84 thread going on right now.

kizz

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I hesitate to shell out 40 bucks for one carfax (1G2AW87H6DL217171), but if the thing has 63,000 miles and not 163,000, then it's still in the running...
a free database (vehiclehistory dot com and NMVTIS) found no obvious red flags.

OrangeBird

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kizz

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staggered wheels: can't decide if I love them or hate them. they're like some vintage variant on the AR62 "Outlaw II" wheels.
wavy line on rear bumper: true, and eventually I would want to repaint the car, but as it is, that waviness is actually not as bad as some factory stripe decals I've seen, which run between the 2 colors, at that same spot. I kinda hate that the black looks taller behind the rear wheel than it looks at the rest of the car.
volt gauge: now I'm doing this from memory, but when the ignition switch is off, the volt meter reads out of range, just like in that pic, correct? so I'm not too worried about that.
door trim piece: yeah, that door needs weatherstripping too, so that would be a 2-for-1. as long as those parts are available and rea$onably priced, no big deal.
cruise control button: hard to really tell. it could probably use a new one. would be a pleasant surprise if the cruise still works.
hood bandito strip: it looks like a fake carbon fiber sticker, but it doesn't look like paint. hopefully it would come right off with some effort.

good bargaining chips. if you see more telltale problems, please post about them.

part of the attraction is 1) the wheels make it look like a "hot rod" put together in the 80s, which was never updated to a 90s or 00s look, 2) it's not really a hot rod at all, considering the stock looking engine bay and the fairly high level of originality, other than the wheels, 3) it's a car I could drive daily and put lots of miles on, without any guilt.

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kizz

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"schoolbus" 1989 taillights? hah! new one on me. hey, they get the job done. well I think the thirdgen Firebird is like most other cars in the sense that styling goes down as the model years go up, in this case from '82 to '92. it's not all bad, though, because performance definitely improved greatly during the same time period, and never looked back. for me personally, being a laid back driver and not any kind of racer, I think the early thirdgen (detuned) and particularly 1982 (detuned *and* no overdrive) struck a perfect balance between form and function, and one could say they had more in common with mid to late secondgens than they did with mid or late thirdgens.
your mileage may vary - no pun intended.

StevenB L98/LS1

The wheels or something about the look on this car just makes it an eye sore, I don't know what it is. I'm not saying its a piece of junk but it has that early third gen trailer park look to it. I think stock wheels and factory correct paint with pin strip looks would fix it. Just my opinion not trying to say it doesn't have potential because it does.

kizz

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the bad photography doesn't help, either.

dmccain

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I wouldn't give more than 3k for this car. You can still get nice 3rd gens for 5-6k. This isn't nice in my opinion its just a beater. For 3k or so I would be comfortable with it but no more.

82tarecaro

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I like this one on Ebay better then the one you found. Granted, it is more money but the condition seems to be overall, much nicer. The only down side is the 200c transmission. It lists a best offer so it might be worth a call to see where he really is with the price and if he is flexible at all.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Pontiac...m=322410273578

Drew

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Good call, much better deal. Shame about the flat hood...

kymmee

The one on ebay is a much more collectible car. Has the 82 only features-PMD's, round shift **** and it doesnt look like the dash pad is cracked which is a HUGE plus.

That 83, the engine bay picture alone tells what kind of life that car had.

kizz

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that ebay '82 is obviously in much better original condition than the '83 in this thread, but it's also really light on options. no WS6 or WS7 or 15" wheels, no CC1, no hood scoop, and that's what I see from that one pic. well, for my next Firebird I'm not looking for a collectible - I'm looking for a daily driver, and since they can still be had for a decent price with some patience, I'm gonna keep looking. the '83 is still on the list, although I haven't called about it yet.

82tarecaro

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I think you can definitely do better then that 83 though. I know you have been looking for awhile but you should hold out for a better car - maybe even an L69.

kizz

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well, David T's is currently offering a 1983 L69 Trans Am with 214,000 kilometers (133,000 miles) for $8000. it's not as loaded, and the engine looks its age, but it looks cleaner than that silver Mad Max looking '83 T/A.
assuming that's in Canadian dollars, that's about 6150 USD, which seems too good to be true for a car which is more rare than a Recaro Trans Am (662 L69's made in 1983).
I can't really travel to Canada right now so I would have to buy it based on pictures and videos and the seller's word... not the ideal situation. and if it's 8000 USD, let someone else have it...
link: http://www.davidt.com/vehicles/3/23/0/0/2652

Jason E

kizz,

Ran a Carfax for you on the original car in question. It had 48k miles in 93, was in CA until 2010, failed smog a few times, had 61k in 2005, 62k in 2010. Mileage seems legit to me.

Still wouldn't want it...

3rdgenparts

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Most cars in Hemmings are WAY overpriced anyways !!!



Dave