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Old 12-19-2011, 04:09 PM
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pics of the just the passenger side header:



nice hoof there guy!
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nice hoof there guy!
haha, the good ol' ariat express, has taken me home many a night when i wasn't able to drive! too lazy to prop it up with a block of wood....eh.
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haha, the good ol' ariat express, has taken me home many a night when i wasn't able to drive! too lazy to prop it up with a block of wood....eh.
what kinda hp you thinking this thing is gonna make? ima say...ummm...420/372
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i'm hoping to break 400hp...i hate to jinx myself before its running, 410/395
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and PLEASE tell me ur not gonna hook the torque arm back up to the transmission....
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for the meantime yes....i'm going to have to baby the 10 bolt anyways, once i get my subframe connectors burned in and my dyno tune, i'll probably follow you with the bmr trakpak. hopefully an 8.8 is in the future with some decent gears....how does your 6 speed like the 3:55's? i was considering 3:73's, not sure though.
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boom! weld it in and ur done! bmr trak pak
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for the meantime yes....i'm going to have to baby the 10 bolt anyways, once i get my subframe connectors burned in and my dyno tune, i'll probably follow you with the bmr trakpak. hopefully an 8.8 is in the future with some decent gears....how does your 6 speed like the 3:55's? i was considering 3:73's, not sure though.
well... i can't drive down the road in 6th below 55 because it tries to lugg the car down. 1400 rpm at 60....i plan on doing 4.10's so if i were you id just go ahead and do 3.73's or 4.10's
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Re: 91 Z/28 6.0L/T56, Husler Mid-Length Headers

Those headers do look nice, think Ill use them for my next swap

I agree with five7kid, move the brake lines behind the steering shaft. Every set of headers Ive messed with required that, SBC and LSx in 3rd gens

Also, push the harness bundle behind the pass valve cover. As it sits, it looks very close to the header. You want atleast 1" from the primary. If you cant get it to move back, get some reflective tape
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pocket, the harness was just laid up there, i haven't finished routing it yet...i've to got lengthen the hvac connector wires a bit, they won't reach in the configuration you sent to me(no big deal, looks like maybe it would be for a non-ac car). i'll have to look into moving the brake lines, i did bend them further out of the way after taking the pictures. if i do more bending, i'll take the steering shaft out, i don't want to open up the brake system if possible.

thanks for all the helpful replies guys!

i hope to have it running next weekend.
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installed the front drive accessories and got the exhaust fab'd up to the cutout. lacking the correct oil pressure sender, a couple of 90* elbows, connecting the harness up, sealing the intake down, and a few other minor things, and i'll be hitting the switch.

merry christmas to everyone! have a safe and happy holiday!~
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Ugh was hoping to hear it running! Lol sounds like its coming along great!
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well hopefully in the morning, i'll be putting the fluids in, dropping in a battery, and finishing up some wiring to the starter/battery/distribution block.....fingers crossed.
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it runs! like a scalded dog....all i can say is wow. now time to button up all the little things. made a run last night after i brought it down off the jackstands, it was still pulling hard at the top of 4th.

need to work on routing the intake around the washer reservoir, need to do some adjusting on the exhaust(and finish up the back half), lost my switch for the cutout(?wtf), get the clutch dialed in a little better, dyno/street tune it, and put the hood on....haha.

it fired right up, hardly crancked over, only had a few fightings to tighten up. the tune from frost is pretty close, idle seems to bounce a little, but not terrible.

video and some more pics to come later to day.
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Oh man, that's awesome! Congrats! Wait... you drove it without the hood? j/k Let us know what the dyno results are. Inquiring minds want to know!
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Congratulations man! Sounds like she is running very well for you.

Looking forward to some vids, more engine pics and exhaust pics with those headers and ...
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videos: idle and stab of the throttle, and a computer generated run of what it looks like short shifting through the gears.



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Car sounds great. I'll be picking up a set of those headers for sure when I have the money. My frost tune will wonder on idle sometimes too but I've found the more ru. Time it gets the better just how it was on my Yukon. Yours seems to be a little rich like mine also when you reved it. Hopefully I can get mine dyno tuned in the spring or atleast buy hp tuners.
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Congrats on getting it going
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added another ground to the back of the engine, seems to run even better. the idle is cleaned up, it no long searches for idle, and throttle response is crisp! can't wait to get the exhuast finished up and the hood back on.
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update:

the car continues to run great. i'm taking it in tomorrow to finish up the back half of the exhaust and to get the subframe connectors welded in. i would do the sf connectors, but i hate welding upside down over my head, and a bad shoulder makes it even worse.

i'm still up in the air on what to do about exhaust tips, my idea i had has been put on the back burner for now...i think i will just tuck them up with turndowns for the time being. but, that can change by tomorrow morning, haha.

i've got an a-pillar pod ordered for my aeroforce gauge and some intake bends and straights to finish up my cai.

this car is going to get me in trouble, yet! its like being a teenager again, only with 2-3 times the car it was 12 years ago!
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haha.i ran a single in/out magnaflow with my swap and hid the tail pipe. you will have fun with the car for sure! ive had mine since i was a teenager but its been sitting alot the last few years so i hope to finaly finsh mine and officialy drive it around a bit this spring.
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Wow that thing sounds and runs like a champ.I too will now be looking at those headers when I rebuild my ls1...they should really help my get close to my small goal of 380rwhp.

Awesome job my friend,and very clean..Fast car
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How much power do you think you will be down from say a set of 1 7/8" long tubes?
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wow after some quick online shopping..those headers..mids or longtubes are worth trying! im not expecting perfect fitment..but that goes for any header i buy. i would have to make a another y pipe since my current one is dual 2.5 catted and then merged and stepped up to my already magnaflow 3 inch catback.
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How much power do you think you will be down from say a set of 1 7/8" long tubes?
i don't foresee a big drop in power. whatever i'm losing in HP i'm gaining in midrange torque. this isn't a max effort track car, i want power where is lives in the rpm range.

i think a lot of people over exhaust their cars, you need the correct size of pipe to create the scavaging effect, too big, and you lose all of it. a daily driven car doesn't need dual 3" exhaust.
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I agree dual 3in is an overkill lol
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Yeap, I was informed 1 3/4 was fine on my car. Dont want to overscavage the exhaust during overlap.
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Wow that thing sounds and runs like a champ.I too will now be looking at those headers when I rebuild my ls1...they should really help my get close to my small goal of 380rwhp.

Awesome job my friend,and very clean..Fast car
the fit and finish on them is great. i'm really glad i took the time to do all of the research i did on header options. for the money, i'm very pleased, just anxious to see what numbers i put down. brp was easy to work with, and i'm very pleased with how the california office of hedman treated me. they were watching the email correspondence i had with the eastern factory and stepped in when they saw i wasn't getting my questions answered properly. top notch company.

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I'm curious with my all out power build on my 370/ls3 setup. I wasn't sure how bad 1 3/4" primary mids would hurt me.
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just got the car back from the exhaust shop. didn't tuck the pipes as high as i wanted, but i can fix that. the hooker aerochamber sounds great! nice and quiet at idle, and gets loud and dirty when you stand on it. doesn't rap as quick through full exhaust, glad i put the cutout in.
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Yeah my magnaflow is Pretty tame on my swap but that's why I put my cutout on lol
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doesn't rap as quick through full exhaust, glad i put the cutout in.
A few years ago I took the '57 out to the track during a test & tune. I made a pass with full exhaust, uncorked the headers and made a pass, hooked the exhaust back up and made a pass, uncorked, etc. Tried to establish a trend without weather affecting the results. Sure felt quick with the headers uncorked. Timeslips, however, showed the full exhaust was quicker and faster in back-to-back runs throughout (6 passes total, as I recall - might have done more, but it was getting old crawling under the car between each pass).

Never trust the butt-dyno. The ear dyno is even worse.
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A few years ago I took the '57 out to the track during a test & tune. I made a pass with full exhaust, uncorked the headers and made a pass, hooked the exhaust back up and made a pass, uncorked, etc. Tried to establish a trend without weather affecting the results. Sure felt quick with the headers uncorked. Timeslips, however, showed the full exhaust was quicker and faster in back-to-back runs throughout (6 passes total, as I recall - might have done more, but it was getting old crawling under the car between each pass).

Never trust the butt-dyno. The ear dyno is even worse.
point well taken...i'll have to do some testing.

it sure is nice in the cabin with no resonance, no blaring exhaust...has a great note when you hit the skinny pedal though. i think its quieter cruising than the old manifolds/no cats/flomaster on the L98.
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The mid lengths on BRP's website are made by hedman?
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just watched your videos. Congrats!!! The car sounds awesome. It just got me even more pumped up to have my swap finished this spring.
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i'll have to post some with the hood on, and through the hooker aerochamber...thanks for the kind words pop6482. need to get my leaky powersteering pump fixed first, waiting on parts, then its time to head to the rollers!
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Congrats on the swap! I am doing a similar swap into my 89 Formula in the spring. Collecting parts now...

Car sounds awesome in the vids!
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What torque arm mount did you use??
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factory 3rd gen T5 mount on the T56 for now. i'm going to update to the bmr trak-pac if i ever find a Dana 44 or build an 8.8".
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Good to know. I was searching around today and got some info from people. Thanks
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here are some more random pictures from some of the finishing stages. i'm waiting on my new powersteering pump to get here so i can fix my leak issue. i was just going to do the reservoir, but decided to do the whole thing while i've got it off. i will also be adding the 2004 pontiac montana 3.4l pulley with the 3 holes for access to the bolts.

below are pictures of my cutout switch that is hidden in my ashtray(gotta love crinkle paint), my a pillar mounted interceptor gauge, some pic's of the intake routing, and the engine.

i need to get my cruise control bracket fab'd up, put some better turndowns on my tailpipes, and take her in for the final tune and dyno session.

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Looks like it's coming together real nice. Looks great!
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looks great man! cant wait to get to work on my swap some more lol. then start my swap on the z28!
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thanks guys, hopefully i get my parts in today to fix the ps pump. tomorrow i'll get my cruise control bracket fab'd up. really looking forward to putting on some miles this weekend.
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put the hood on for the first time since september last night, finished up my ps pump/pulley install with a corrected length belt, and fab'd up my cruise control bracket. now to figure out how to make that work!

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Looking good!

Do you have more pics of your shifter?

For some reason my shifter is almost all the way to the right and hits the center console when I put in reverse.
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i don't at the moment, but when mine is centered by the springs, its got plenty of clearance, but its close when i'm shifting into reverse. i'm running a hurst billet plus. what shifter do you have? one of the aftermarket shifters (pro 5.0 i think) has an offset stick that points the shifter more towards the driver.


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