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Old 08-20-2015, 01:05 AM
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The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

I picked up another 3rd gen, 1987 Pontiac Firebird FORMULA 350


First look:

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Got it running pretty quick with a new Fuel pump:

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then the 700R4 came out for a rebuild and stall convertor:



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Got it too pass emissions, on the road and some new/used ROH Snypers

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The heater core decided to puke all over the interior, so that was a fun replacement

I've just been cleaning the interior and replacing a bunch of broken Radio / HVAC / Shifter plate / Console parts, as it was broken into for the stereo, and they must have used a sledge hammer !

I've been driving it around town and to work quite a bit, much more fun than my P/U

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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

Looking good. I like the new wheels. Car is begging for a paint job, but I'm sure that's already on the list lol.
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Great to see another one being saved!
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Sweet pickup, what are the plans?
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

Nice!
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Looks great! Love those wheels!
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

Thanks guys !

Plan for now is just keep repairing the small things ... still needs a HVAC / radio bezel and maybe a new pod, seats are in pretty rough shape, some small under-hood items like leaky vacuum lines, etc.

And of course original red paint and most of the original decals

Also picked up a set of Eibach prokit rear springs, and need to find matching fronts.

Even stayed in the garage for a minute

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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

Red dragon. F'n right!

Oh no thanks, honey. I've got a fresh beer!


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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

sweet find, btw. Original paint cars don't hide anything!
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

Good save!
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

Well I took the red dragon to a local AutoX as my '82 was still a couple hours from being ready (oil change, etc.) ... I didn't like it after 5 of 8 runs it decided to not run, had to pull the driveshaft and rope tow it 4-5 miles home

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Symptoms:
Starts very briefly and dies almost instantly
Can hear the fuel pump running / priming
Oil pressure gauge reads pressure so I don't think that's shutting it off

Time to get a fuel pressure gauge on it, and have the ignition module tested (suspect)

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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

Still fighting MAF issues, installed both new GM relays, same symptons, so new WELLS SU-145 MAF ordered

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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

Originally Posted by BumpaD82
Symptoms:
Starts very briefly and dies almost instantly
Can hear the fuel pump running / priming
Oil pressure gauge reads pressure so I don't think that's shutting it off

Time to get a fuel pressure gauge on it, and have the ignition module tested (suspect)

~DaVe
I would agree with ignition or ECU issues too if it has good fuel pressure at the rails. It could also be low pressure from the pump.
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

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I would agree with ignition or ECU issues too if it has good fuel pressure at the rails. It could also be low pressure from the pump.
Diagnosis thread ... https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...ck-my-maf.html

New Wells SU-145 should be here Friday ... Really hoping it's the final "repair" / part needed as it has become frustrating !
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

i have vogtland front springs, new in the box from founders performance, ill sell them to you. i kind of did the opposite, i had the pro kits on the front of my Z and the vogtlands on the rear. if your interested ill cross the part numbers and make sure its all good.
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

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i have vogtland front springs, new in the box from founders performance, ill sell them to you. i kind of did the opposite, i had the pro kits on the front of my Z and the vogtlands on the rear. if your interested ill cross the part numbers and make sure its all good.
Let me know a price ... Car funds are hard to come by (too many projects) ... But it sits like a 4x4 !

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FINALLY got the MAF issues worked out, code free for almost 2 weeks

Added LED floor courtesy lights:



and clear marker lights:



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Cool project!
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

My problem of the fuel pressure sending unit would not let the fuel pump run. Easy , cheap fix.
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

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I picked up another 3rd gen, 1987 Pontiac Firebird FORMULA 350

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Please tell me you took the re-stricter plate off the red dragon to give it a little more juice?
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

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Please tell me you took the re-stricter plate off the red dragon to give it a little more juice?

Hell yes I did !

The Red Dragon doesn't get a lot of love, between other projects but heres a few random things:

TPI nameplate and airfoil, worth 4–6 hp and if you believe that I also have a bridge for sale!

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Snypers back on after winter:

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due to a radio thief ... New radio / HVAC "pod" & trim plate, stereo mount kit, rewired the old deck, new hidden antenna so I can eliminate the broken external power antenna on the fender:

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And test fit of some new seats !!!

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Really cool ride, I like it. A fan of the L98 Formulas.
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Just another shot of the front seats finished :

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Rear seats got some love :

Old and new



Both new

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Got the rear Eibach pro-kits in and "new" shocks ... Waiting on front struts, and then the front end can be dropped

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Springs give it a nice stance! What kind of rims are those? They look nice!
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Springs give it a nice stance! What kind of rims are those? They look nice!
THANKS

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Lookin good!
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Re: The "Red Dragon" 1987 Formula 350

This guy is the only person I know that does a burnout in his driveway while pointing at the house. You are either very skillful or very drunk.
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This guy is the only person I know that does a burnout in his driveway while pointing at the house. You are either very skillful or very drunk.
I'm fairly sure he isn't the only one.. LOL
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Well I haven't hit any of my other things yet, .. BUT I do burnouts pretty often


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wrong post
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Incredible work and dedication, "odometergears" and others!
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