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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

Tease pic I'm still in the middle of painting
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i wanted to roll it out of the shop yesterday and intot he sun light to take pics but i didnt , ill head over today ini a lil while and get some outdoor pics in the sunlight
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damn sun was behind a cloud ill grab better pics when i color sand and buff it out

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damn sun was behind a cloud ill grab better pics when i color sand and buff it out

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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

Dave that came out freaking nice! Excellent job...

Edit: Have no idea how I'm gonna outdo that, but I got something up my sleeve...

Again, excellent job!

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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

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Dave that came out freaking nice! Excellent job...

Edit: Have no idea how I'm gonna outdo that, but I got something up my sleeve...

Again, excellent job!
thnx told ya i have a big update this weekend , im going to give it prolly 2 more days the put the motor back in , and the transmission will be done next weekend

after that its just odds and ends like new headlights parking lights and side markers
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

Bring on those rims, it's gonna look even sweeter...

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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

looks killer
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thanks for that rob ill get the wheels on tommorow if i feel better
i feel like total crap from the paint fumes imsweating like crazy yet ice friggen cold and a nasty headache


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That turned out really nice for a quick paint job, keep up the good work you'll get it done it time.
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

Car looks great.

No BS, anyone looking to spray base/clear or paint with hardener should read up on the short term and long term affects of not wearing the proper respiratory equipment. It will mess you up for life.
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Car looks great.

No BS, anyone looking to spray base/clear or paint with hardener should read up on the short term and long term affects of not wearing the proper respiratory equipment. It will mess you up for life.
Yeah, I have the appropriate respirator and wear a 3m suit. Isocyanates is no joke. Causes nervous system damage. Might even make you vote democrat.


I gotta repaint my stingray, and I'm actually thinking of lacquer rather than BC/CC.

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That came out really nice.

I paint in my shop too, I don't have access to a booth any more. Only issue really is dirt in the clear. I tack rag between color coats.

How much dirt did you get in it?

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Car looks great.

No BS, anyone looking to spray base/clear or paint with hardener should read up on the short term and long term affects of not wearing the proper respiratory equipment. It will mess you up for life.
^^^ aint no jopke im paying for it now though i do feel much better today , compared to yesterday , i think most of it was dehydration though
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^^^ aint no jopke im paying for it now though i do feel much better today , compared to yesterday , i think most of it was dehydration though
Dude.. you didn't have a respirator ?? What paint + clear did you use?

Even skin contact on urethane paint is a no-no.

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That came out really nice.

I paint in my shop too, I don't have access to a booth any more. Only issue really is dirt in the clear. I tack rag between color coats.

How much dirt did you get in it?

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theres not much at all in it , the building id pressurized by the massive evap cooler so i left the bay door open about 1 ft it kept all the dust and dirt off the car.

i did make the mistake of opening the bay door all thw ay after the final clear coat and when the door went up over the car some dirt dropped down on it but it will all wetsand/buff out
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Dude.. you didn't have a respirator ?? What paint + clear did you use?

Even skin contact on urethane paint is a no-no.

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not a proper respirator ,ukrem base and clear , opps lol though i only got a lil on my hands i was sweeting so bad in the shop i had to take my gloves off
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

Knowing Dave the way I do, he wasn't wearing a mask because he had a cigarette hanging out of his mouth while spraying. But I digress. Glad you're feeling better, just remember to suit up properly next time out...
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Knowing Dave the way I do, he wasn't wearing a mask because he had a cigarette hanging out of his mouth while spraying. But I digress. Glad you're feeling better, just remember to suit up properly next time out...
lol i didnt smoke at all while painting the car.
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

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lol i didnt smoke at all while painting the car.
Hey... I believe ya lol.

How are you feeling bro? What else did you get done...?

You're making me wanna revisit my old thread soon...

Edit: Oh and... some more inspiration for ya, old school.


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i havent done much i pushed the car outside to sit in the sun to cure the paint.
to b honest i havent felt all that well , yesterday i was feeling pretty good, but it was just to damn hot out to do anything , im going to push the car back into the shop today.

tommorow the plan is to weld the bung on the oil pan and reinstall the motor in the car , and then i have to wait till this weekend to get the trans put back together and get that int he car

im close to having it done im going to slow down a lil at this point and make sure everything is right , 31 days exactly till the drag races so i have plenty of time
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

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im close to having it done im going to slow down a lil at this point and make sure everything is right , 31 days exactly till the drag races so i have plenty of time...
Dave it really is coming out great, the guys here in Jersey love it so far. Once the paint is done, then the interior, you'll hands down have the nicest turbo Camaro on the board, and you'll run it hard, the way it was meant to be driven. Paint really looks incredible bro, you should show those guys over on the NJFBOA what you've been up to. By the way, sleep next to a steamer if you can, not a humidifier, it will loosen it all up..

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Dave it really is coming out great, the guys here in Jersey love it so far. Once the paint is done, then the interior, you'll hands down have the nicest turbo Camaro on the board, and you'll run it hard, the way it was meant to be driven. Paint really looks incredible bro, you should show those guys over on the NJFBOA what you've been up to. By the way, sleep next to a steamer if you can, not a humidifier, it will loosen it all up..

dont mind the water spots





thanks and f them guys

how is the gta, got enough for the camaro once i get it tuned and dialed in?
edit i almost forgot
http://blackrockmotorsports.org/2015...g-event-dates/

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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

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thanks and f them guys...
Too funny!

Originally Posted by project89
how is the gta, got enough for the camaro once i get it tuned and dialed in?
I thought you'd never ask...

We gotta line them up when you're done one day...
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Once the paint is done, then the interior, you'll hands down have the nicest turbo Camaro on the board, and you'll run it hard, the way it was meant to be driven.
IF its ever done and makes it to a race track... Until then all this thread is, is a big ole circle jerk.
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IF its ever done and makes it to a race track... Until then all this thread is, is a big ole circle jerk.
dont like the thread stay the hell out
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

I'm loving that paint, it would look so good with my black interior, but I can't cuz you did it first and I refuse to copy lmao. Now I am stuck trying to top it. Damn that paint is nice!!!!!

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Originally Posted by 1986Z28OWNER
IF its ever done and makes it to a race track... Until then all this thread is, is a big ole circle jerk.
Come on man it's all good, Dave will get it done. Nice Camaro by the way...!
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I'm loving that paint, it would look so good with my black interior, but I can't cuz you did it first and I refuse to copy lmao. Now I am stuck trying to top it. Damn that paint is nice!!!!!
http://www.shop.thecoatingstore.com/...it-PGCR455.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=37&v=Bkd9r9w3pTw

http://www.shop.thecoatingstore.com/...474-BCCKIT.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZCTPbqpucs

http://www.shop.thecoatingstore.com/...459-BCCKIT.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm2OdA5jT9I

3 more outstanding colors rob take ur pick thats the same paint i used on mine

i got my oil pan welded up , my pickup tube also welded in , and the oil pan back on the motor.

dragged the car back in the shop but everyone else went to lunch so i had noone to help me push it up on the lift so i can home for a quick break.
when they get back ill get the car back on the lift and then drop the motor back in it today , should have a bunch of pics and stuff tonight

the goal for the day is engine back in car and get the turbo system finilized and welded up , so that this weekend when the trans is done i can bolt it in and the car will be 95% ready to go

edit looks like somone broke the youtube links embedeing

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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

Now I know which paint I am going with...

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the goal for the day is engine back in car and get the turbo system finilized and welded up , so that this weekend when the trans is done i can bolt it in and the car will be 95% ready to go...
Get it in there bro. Your SBC vs my SBC, with track vids embellishing who is faster. This is so long overdue, and its gonna be fun lol. Get that engine in there brother...

Edit: Gawd Damn that paint looks freaking fantastic, every time I look at your car lol...!!!!!!

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motor would have been intoday except i forgot to install the oil pump drive when i put the pump in , im so used to the stock style ones u can drop down from the intake side. figured that one out when i went to prime the oil pump today

the one i bought has the collar put on to the drive with a roll pin , i was all pissed off at the stupid mistake so i just packed it up for the day , ill fix it tommorow and get back to work on it

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Now I know which paint I am going with...



Get it in there bro. Your SBC vs my SBC, with track vids embellishing who is faster. This is so long overdue, and its gonna be fun lol. Get that engine in there brother...

Edit: Gawd Damn that paint looks freaking fantastic, every time I look at your car lol...!!!!!!

lol u have an unfair andvantage u get to run at the best track on the east coast in mine shaft air
i get to run on a converted airport runway at 6,000 ft above sea level
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IF its ever done and makes it to a race track... Until then all this thread is, is a big ole circle jerk.

well,...that was pretty ignorant.
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

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well,...that was pretty ignorant.

Well in a sense hes right lol this is the 3rd-4th thread on the same subject lol everyone is eagar for results lol seems like this time things will be finished
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

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Well in a sense hes right lol this is the 3rd-4th thread on the same subject lol everyone is eagar for results lol seems like this time things will be finished
He likes to change things. single twin single twin. Kind of like the sun here in new england.

You know, turbos are cool but I kind of wish I didn't turbo mine. A lot of plumbing, a lot of heat.

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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

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lol u have an unfair andvantage u get to run at the best track on the east coast in mine shaft air i get to run on a converted airport runway at 6,000 ft above sea level...
Unfair advantage lol? Smaller engine, smaller valves, iron heads, yes bigger cam but so what, stock TPI runners, stock throttle body, how is that unfair even with e-town being within walking distance lol? WTF are you doing in Utah anyway bro, come back home already...
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Shaaaaaaake and Baaaaaake Kal !

It is coming along nicely. That color looks way better on the car than it did on that rock posted early on.
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

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He likes to change things. single twin single twin. Kind of like the sun here in new england.

You know, turbos are cool but I kind of wish I didn't turbo mine. A lot of plumbing, a lot of heat.

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Can always go butt mount. Sell the engine mount setup. That big ole sbc will spool the turbo you have to matter where you put it.
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Can always go butt mount. Sell the engine mount setup. That big ole sbc will spool the turbo you have to matter where you put it.
Yeah but then you are trading 10 miles of hot side for 10 miles of cold side.

It's done, other than a few welds. But if I take it apart again I'll probably go back to a big blower.

Just a tight engine bay. Asking a lot of it.

My crossover right now is 1" away from my lower radiator hose, and about 1/2" away from the plastic fans.. hope they don't melt.


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Don't forget the oil return probs people encounter from the butt mount.
Yeah, I don't like doing the crossover up front like that. Blowers are too loud for an old phart like me.
Once you drive it, you will stop wanting a blower. Max boost at 2500 rpm in that thing. Massive torque.
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Re: Single turbo 352 iroc 1000hp or bust the grand finale

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My crossover right now is 1" away from my lower radiator hose, and about 1/2" away from the plastic fans.. hope they don't melt...
Steve had a similar problem but up top with his turbo Iroc, melted the hose from the radiator to the reservoir, he had to install a brass fitting and braided hose. I wouldn't chance it Joe, boost plus slippery road from coolant spill equals disaster waiting to happen...
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Steve had a similar problem but up top with his turbo Iroc, melted the hose from the radiator to the reservoir, he had to install a brass fitting and braided hose. I wouldn't chance it Joe, boost plus slippery road from coolant spill equals disaster waiting to happen...
I need to buy some universal flexible radiator hose and maybe a hard 90* elbow or something.

I have not had much time or ambition to work on the car.

Also in the process of buying a second house (waterfront) so I'm even more busy than normal.

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engine will be in tonight
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joe forget the flexible stuff , get some 304 stainless u bends from summit racing and make the hoses out of them , and just clamp them with some hose on the rad and engine sides
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engine will be in tonight...
Wasn't around last night, how did it go?

Hope to gawd you didn't mess up that freaking paint!
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Wasn't around last night, how did it go?

Hope to gawd you didn't mess up that freaking paint!
paints all good hit another snag with the trans today , trans brake calls for 5 clutches in the direct pack with .040-.050 clearance.

well with my narowest presure plate and only 4 clutches in the pack with the stock piston there was like .005 clearance

so after measuring the thickness of the extra steel plate and clutch i then added + .045 to get my final number , we had to drive 6 miles over to were my friends dad has a lathe and i chucked up the piston and machined it.
get back to the shop and reassemble the unit with all 5 clutches , and the narrow clutch presure plate and still have 0 clearance, turns out the piston wasnt machined square to begin with so when i measured it it was to tall to begin with

so one final trip to the lathe i knocked off the rest of what i needed to get the proper clearance and got the direct drum assembled . im home now but heading back in a bit to finish assembling the trans , which will deffinalty be done tonight theres only a lil bit left to do on it

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i give the **** up
see anything wrong with these pics?and yes the drum is covered in dirt i flunbg it out the shop door into the dirt after it broke
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my buddy had a spare drum and shaft but the shaft is fubar so i have to swap them , which is what cause the issue in the first place
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he wont be back in town for 2 weeks so for now im just going to stick a 700r4 i have laying around in the car

and ppl wonder why its taking so damn long
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i give the **** up

and ppl wonder why its taking so damn long

Hrmm.. I ended up throwing out my modified drum and frictions. I should have just given it to you with the case.

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Hrmm.. I ended up throwing out my modified drum and frictions. I should have just given it to you with the case.

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the direct drum was easy to modify , only had to drill a .050 hole in the drum
and i machined the piston for the clearance needed for the extra steel and clutch


we assembled the intermediate but the drum was worn were the torrington bearing had siezed so we had to swap out the intermediate drum for one out of the th350c , pressed the shafts out no problem to swap them , and when we pressed the th350 input shaft into the th350c drum the drum broke

alls thats left to do is swap the shaft over to the drum my friend had and then reinstall the intermediate clutch pack in the drum and then it will literally take 30 mins to finish assembling the trans

if the bellhousing bolts onto the unit without needing extra clearance it wont take long at all


the good news is if i ever break the th350 we will be pros at rebuildinig it by the time this is done

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That fmic looks freaking sweet on a 3rd gen. Alot more mean looking than on a 4th gen.


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