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Old 09-12-2015, 09:19 PM
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what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

i have a 86 iroc with fuel injected 383 with a d1s procharger. i want one that is boost referenced. i have a big stuff 3 computer so no maf sensor. aem? devels own? snow performance? or? that make a razer kit for turbo buicks?
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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

forgot to mention i want a progressive kit.
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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

The AlkyControl kits are good. I think that it the one you are referring to as the Razor kit for the turbo Buick cars. Julio also makes kits for other cars. Browse his site then give him a call to order.

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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

Kits arent complicated unless you get into fancy electronics for progressive control and safety levels and such. I pieced together my own setup that started with a snow pump i got used but all it is is a shurflo brand high pressure pump i am sure you can find for less than what they sell for branded by others

Boost switch activation by hobbs or a boost pressure switch, basically same thing

I just tuned a 383 tpi d1 car that had a snow kit and single 375ml/min nozzle. Same deal i am running in my 305 turbo car
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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

Progressive is the only way to go...

Using the EBL Flash systems go beyond a progressive as they allow engine shut down on over boost.

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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

that razer kit is pricey. between aem or snow what would be the better one?
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what company makes the ebl flash system? i an get a kit from either snow or aem for under $400. new on ebay both have the progressive kit.
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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

Centrifugal car has no overboost tho. Boost is proportional to rpm. Limit boost limit rpm

Turbo car is alot different but all you have to do there is make sure your injectors and fuel pump are oversized for the power and boost you want to run. Then in the timing table above your max boost, cut all timing. In the fuel table, dump fuel over max boost. In mat/iat over certain average you tend to see on meth, dump fuel.

That way any overboost issue is hitting wall of fuel and no timing which cuts motor out, and if meth fails, boost temp rises fast enough it hits overtemp and dumps fuel
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orr89rocz my buddy sent me a pict of your 305 car from the track friday. he said he talked to your dad all night. i need someone to get my car straight. do you or no of any one that wants to make some $$ getting this thing to run good?
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Bring it over. I tune for fj performance now. What you need done?
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i need a bunch done. ac delete box put in bigstuff3 computer mounted a bunch of factory wires taking out plus suspension adjusted sway bar is hitting rear end on pass side but 2 inch away on driverside. everything under the car is adjustable. for some reason the old owner did away with the wire that plugs into the alternator?
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there is alot of money in this car but needs alot done i have all the parts.
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i was trying to get someone to get my car straight out before i took it to fj to get it tuned. does fj do bigstuff 3
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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

He hasnt see that system yet but would be willing to try. It wont be cheap tho since most standalone systems are fairly time consuming to set up and work out on new combos, and time is money

They are also dealers for alky injection systems and could set you up with a kit if you want
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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

I am looking for a meth kit also. The snow kit is the cheapest, but I keep hearing about leaking connectors with the plastic tubing and pump failures. It the cost of the snow kit is added to a braided line upgrade, it might be a good bang for the buck.

I got a price quote from alky control for $590 using my map sensor for their kit. People swear by their kit though it is pricey.
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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

what about the aem? or devils own? snow has leaky connectors razer is pricey.
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Re: what water meth setup is the best for my setup?

I had the snow performance kit installed for an NA/NOS setup but never used it. Im going twin turbo and going to run no intercooler so thinking I can repurpose the setup with a snow/AEM progressive controller/harness and get it to work with my turbos? I never had any leaks on my snow performance kit during testing. Its all about how you bend the tubing at the connectors or pressure at the connections pushing at an angle.

what do you guys think? Progressive controller on my setup with maybe 8-10psi on a stock 5.3 truck LS with twin GT35s.
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