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Old 04-08-2010, 09:59 PM   #1
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Moog or Duralast balljoints?

Stuck on which to buy for my 91 Trans Am with WS6. The Duralasts have a lifetime warranty (like the Moogs I believe), are half the price, and both are greasable I believe. I think I might stick with Duralasts but I thought I might as well ask before I get them. Who here has Duralast ball joints, or any suspension parts by them for that matter? How about Moog? Thanks!
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Stuck on which to buy for my 91 Trans Am with WS6. The Duralasts have a lifetime warranty (like the Moogs I believe), are half the price, and both are greasable I believe. I think I might stick with Duralasts but I thought I might as well ask before I get them. Who here has Duralast ball joints, or any suspension parts by them for that matter? How about Moog? Thanks!
The two older guys at the dealership I work at (Hyundai) both swear by Moog parts. So I would personally go with the Moog. But I have never heard anything good or bad about Duralast.
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Re: Moog or Duralast balljoints?

if the duralast parts are not re-boxed moog parts, then go with the moog ones.
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Re: Moog or Duralast balljoints?

just had this debate on my idler arm. the diffence is in the metal purities. the moog is usually a stronger metal, and the off brand can be a recycled pot metal type. also the quality and life duration of the rubber boots is a difference, the moog will outlast there. but with lifetime warranty on both, save your money and fix it regularly, or pay more and fix it longer with moog.
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Re: Moog or Duralast balljoints?

I had put duralast balljoints in my car and they didnt last long. I went to Advance Auto Parts and they sell TRW joints. They seem nicer than the duralast ones.
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Moog for me.

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Re: Moog or Duralast balljoints?

Go MOOG and not TRW or duralast if you want it to be fixed for a long time. Duralast if you want to change your ball joints every six months. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHH MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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moog only
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Well...There you have it...Go with Moog!!!!!!!
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Re: Moog or Duralast balljoints?

^^^what they say, but I would't hesitate to huy from napa
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Re: Moog or Duralast balljoints?

as if my trans am isn't a money pit as is! hahaha thanks guys. Looks like Moogs it is. How about the idler arm? Moog as well? That part isn't as difficult to replace as ball joints so I think I might stick with the Duralast unit for now.

Anybody know the cheapest place to buy Moog parts? I'm thinking Summit Racing?
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How about the idler arm? Moog as well? That part isn't as difficult to replace as ball joints so I think I might stick with the Duralast unit for now.
I don't know how much money I wasted early in my car learning days, by essentially buying twice: Oh, I'll buy this cheaper version and then replace it with something better later. But each to his own.

BTW, if you replace the idler arm twice, you'll also need two alignments.

Try http://www.rockauto.com/index.php?a=...rtsgascappromo

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I don't know how much money I wasted early in my car learning days, by essentially buying twice: Oh, I'll buy this cheaper version and then replace it with something better later. But each to his own.

BTW, if you replace the idler arm twice, you'll also need two alignments.

Try http://www.rockauto.com/index.php?a=...rtsgascappromo

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Oh yeah I forgot about the alignment, yeah that could become pricey. And that link you posted is great. Thanks James!
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Re: Moog or Duralast balljoints?

I've also heard good things about MC-Quay Norris, and also that Moog has been outsourcing. So check over what you do end up with.

The last time I purchased steering components locally I compared the center link with my old stock one and it was much thinner below the ball joint so I brought it back. I ended up with a GM one because it was the least expensive at the time.
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I've also heard good things about MC-Quay Norris, and also that Moog has been outsourcing. So check over what you do end up with.

The last time I purchased steering components locally I compared the center link with my old stock one and it was much thinner below the ball joint so I brought it back. I ended up with a GM one because it was the least expensive at the time.
Oh cool thanks. What about Raybestos parts?
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Oh cool thanks. What about Raybestos parts?
I'm not sure. The info about Moog and MC-Quay Norris was from a thread on this site. lol

Spohn also sells Moog, but not sure if it's the cheapest you'll find.

I couldn't find the thread I was thinking of, but this one is pretty good:
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I'm not sure. The info about Moog and MC-Quay Norris was from a thread on this site. lol

Spohn also sells Moog, but not sure if it's the cheapest you'll find.

I couldn't find the thread I was thinking of, but this one is pretty good:
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/su...s-moog-vs.html
Ooh nice, I found this Spohn kit that seems cheaper than buying Moog parts separately. I'm looking for pretty much a front steering kit
http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-...GM-F-Body.html
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Re: Moog or Duralast balljoints?

If it's cheaper then that might be the way to go then. Note that the ball joints are sold separate though.
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Ooh nice, I found this Spohn kit that seems cheaper than buying Moog parts separately. I'm looking for pretty much a front steering kit
http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-...GM-F-Body.html
Buying locally saves time if the parts are wrong. I don't see the "lifetime" warranty on Spohn's site.
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Buying locally saves time if the parts are wrong. I don't see the "lifetime" warranty on Spohn's site.

Buying locally also saves on shipping, unless the company offers it for free. I ordered all my stuff from advanced auto and it was the least expensive plus they had free shipping at the time.

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Buying locally also saves on shipping, unless the company offers it for free. I ordered all my stuff from advanced auto and it was the least expensive plus they had free shipping at the time.
Yeah but Autozone is all duralast parts (no moogs) and Advance Auto Parts doesn't even have most of the parts I need. I'm not even gonna bother with Carquest because I can't find an online catalog for them (and I know that they're usually more expensive) and Napa doesn't have Moog parts, only some "Master Ride Chassis" and "NAPA Chassis Parts."

It seems as if the stuff I found on Rock Auto pays off the best. All Moog parts for $352.58 shipped. That includes all the parts for a steering rebuild: ball joints, idler arm, inner/outer tie rods, center link, and tie rod sleeves. I couldn't post a link to my shopping cart so here's a screen shot:

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Am I missing something? What do you guys think about the price? Good or keep looking? Thanks a lot!

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I don't know how much money I wasted early in my car learning days, by essentially buying twice: Oh, I'll buy this cheaper version and then replace it with something better later. But each to his own.

BTW, if you replace the idler arm twice, you'll also need two alignments.

Try http://www.rockauto.com/index.php?a=...rtsgascappromo

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Just replacing an idler arm doesnt mean you need an alignment. The idler arm does not effect the alignment.
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Amazon sells moog and the cost for all parts is around 325 shipped
just type in part numbers from summitracing.
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Ooh nice, I found this Spohn kit that seems cheaper than buying Moog parts separately. I'm looking for pretty much a front steering kit
http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-...GM-F-Body.html
I bought that Spohn kit + the ball joints and was satisfied with the quality parts and the ease of installation. One stop shopping and the parts fit a 3rd gen. Unlike the shopping parts stores and the clerks reply "it should work". Life time warranty is just BS, a good quality part is not going to fail if install correctlly & not abused. GM's parts lasted over 23yrs on my IROC and that is a lifetime in car years.
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Wow you guys are the best!! I didn't even consider Amazon. I just didn't think that it sold car parts. But turns out if I buy the exact same parts off of Amazon, my total comes out to $312.48 shipped! That's compared to the $352.58 I'd pay if I got em off of Rock Auto. ALTHOUGH Amazon is saying that Moog part # K6249 (idler arm) will NOT fit my Trans Am, although it was fine with Summit Racing and Rock Auto. I'm assuming its just a glitch on Amazon's part.
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Just replacing an idler arm doesnt mean you need an alignment. The idler arm does not effect the alignment.
however it can move up and down to adjust the levelness of the centerlink. but if you don't clean and paint the frame between taking off the old one and bolting the new one on there should be a clear outline of where the old washers/bolt sat.
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Re: Moog or Duralast balljoints?

Moog joints were SOOOO expensive. I went with TRW's... They had a decent warranty so I figured they had to be at least decent.

I've had em on the car about 6 months and it's built to handle the twisties and i've got no complaints yet.
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Just replacing an idler arm doesnt mean you need an alignment. The idler arm does not effect the alignment.
As I understand it, replacement could effect the toe. At any rate, for me personally, any time the steering components are replaced/adjusted, I have an alignment.

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Yeah but Autozone is all duralast parts (no moogs) and Advance Auto Parts doesn't even have most of the parts I need. I'm not even gonna bother with Carquest because I can't find an online catalog for them (and I know that they're usually more expensive) and Napa doesn't have Moog parts, only some "Master Ride Chassis" and "NAPA Chassis Parts."

It seems as if the stuff I found on Rock Auto pays off the best. All Moog parts for $352.58 shipped. That includes all the parts for a steering rebuild: ball joints, idler arm, inner/outer tie rods, center link, and tie rod sleeves. I couldn't post a link to my shopping cart so here's a screen shot:

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Am I missing something? What do you guys think about the price? Good or keep looking? Thanks a lot!

Oh and lemme know if you're having difficulty reading that.
Like I said, advanced auto has everything you need. Did you price it out???
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Like I said, advanced auto has everything you need. Did you price it out???
Amazon seems to be the cheapest by far.
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Like I said, advanced auto has everything you need. Did you price it out???
i know im bringing this thread back from the dead, but i was getting ready to do a full steering rebuild (well almost full, center link, idler arm, inner&outer tie rods and adjustable tie rod sleeves) well i have my cart full of all MOOG parts and its only $217!??? How come prices have dropped sooooo low????? Everything is the same except i dont have the tie rod adjusting sleeves in the cart as i will be going with UMI.

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