GreenCamaro13

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1986 Irocz 5.0TPI, auto 2.73:1 rear, stock, stock wheels/tires (original new), No mods =
0-60 MPH in 9.5 seconds
1/4 mile in 16.30 seconds @ 88 MPH
DA 1500'



Times with mods are really irrelevant because of so many variables involved with multiple mods, tuning, engine-swaps, power-adders, etc...
You CANNOT associate a certain gain in 0-60 performance with any particular mod, because a modification has to work with your particular vehicle combination, AND also work with your individual tune. Results will always vary due to both controlled and uncontrolled variables involved.

Last 0-60 I tested was 2.3 seconds.
I use a VC2000 Vericom accelerometer for test data.

G-tech models will gather similar data, and even some scan/dataloggers like Datamaster can give you time-to-speed based on VSS output.

GreenCamaro13

WOW. my camaro is pretty cang slow compared to yours then. mine to get from 0-60 is about a good 15 seconds. doesnt seem to pull as much as it really can. just made a video today actually of it pulling a 0-60 3/4 throttle.

Brando5641

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holy crap. my 4.3 v6 work truck with a box on it would smoke that thing. You got somthin bad wrong if it takes that long to get to 60... hell i have a 1.6 chevy aveo (piece of **** brand new) thats faster than that.

305sbc

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I watched the vid and I must have misread the number. It flashed up pretty fast when I watched.

My Camaro started out very slow too. The 305 + peanut cam +automatic + 2.73 gear was probably the slowest Irocz model ever made.
Most of the 5.7TPI cars could manage high 6 to low 7 second 0 - 60 times and run about a second quicker than mine in a quarter mile.

You gotta start somewhere.

IMissMy86TA

5.0 TPI 5-speed
88 GTA 100% stock
0-60 6.58 sec

vistageek92

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Stock, the later 5.7L cars were at the 6s mark for 0-60. That is what I've read in multiple tech articles

84 Camaro
Built 5.7L (see sig)
~4-5s

86LG4Bird

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Firebird on the 90-shot: 60' in 1.79, 0-60 in ~3.0

Impala naturally aspirated: 60' in 1.43, 0-60 in 1.6

Add 3 sec to each of those on the street....lol!

jwdomino

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according to my speedhut gps speedo, I have been able to pull off a 4.1 second 0-60 on the street on decent tar, but a good deal of wheel hop
That was on a 275/40/17 Nexen tire, I have since upgraded to a 305 wide Michelin Pilot, lowered my lcas to the lowest position, and added a pair of drag bags. I am thinking I can get below the 4.0 mark with the right conditions.

vistageek92

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How do you like those 305's? is that a 17x11 rim?

jwdomino

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Ahh nope should have mentioned that I am now running a 19x11 c6 rear wheel larger contact patch due to both the 19" rim and the 305 width

vistageek92

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That makes a lot more sense. I was trying to figure out how you got 305s on 17in rims

GreenCamaro13

lol ok well now here is a video of mine pushing its 0-60 stock v6 3.1

dont make fun of me haha
www.youtube.com/embed/771Wk3oyzJU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

vistageek92

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Thats awesome! It's so quiet!!

GreenCamaro13

lol not the right one haha ok here it is ::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=771Wk...IIzi100l2389Zi

that is the new one ^ lol

Keegan84

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Yeah that's pretty bad I will post my 0-60 when I get my car back together.

Fritomaster

I'm scared to drive mine up to 60.... So 0-60 = N/A

zraffz

What the hell is done to that thing to make a 4,000lb car move like that?!

I'm looking for a mid 2 second 0-60 on mine and now I feel like a sally



My bolt on A4 LT1 Z28 with 4.56s takes just over 5 seconds. Hard to do it on the road though cause it slides all over the road and forces you to let off.

GreenCamaro13

i was scared to at 1st also, mine was sitting for eight years and i got it running about a month or 2 ago. now its running good. take it for a run. and if it messes up going 0-60 its better to get it fixed now then to let the problem persist.

KuroNeko

my 92 camaro goes from 0-60 in about 5-6 secs, its also has a built 305

GreenCamaro13

nice!! hows ur 305, haha mine is a 3.1 v6 but its not bad for it. i still condsider myself lucky

fasteddi

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Stock 3.1L stick... High 9'-mid 10's sec range.


Heres my my camaro 3.1L auto after I ported the heads and added a cam.
Not sure the real time but its sorta quick considering...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtMKAf_Bh6o

At the track when my car was stock it was pushing 10.9's 1/8 miles at 63 mph. So thats about a 10.3 or so 0-60 completly stock but thats a great launch that youll never get unless your at the racetrack.

GreenCamaro13

ok well i did a 0-60 AGAIN lol after i cleaned up the intake manifold and i got WAY BETTER results:

my timing is approximelty 14ish secs, on a wavy road, no bad huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgbsy92Pf6M

here is proof lol

fasteddi

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Not bad bro..you still shifting at 4500rpms?? You shift higher(5250-5400) and youll be even quicker.

Gettin much better!!

GreenCamaro13

yea man, im just afraid to mess anything up in it haha.

KuroNeko

i love my 305

also heres what it looks like

fasteddi

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Keep in mind, you have stock forged rods and crank. Thats the only reason I turboed my car so willingly. These motors proved a long time ago that they can take a HeL* of a beating and still run fine. You could turn 6k rpms and have no issues, although you wouldnt make much power doing it since the flow suxs at those rpms in a stick motor.

This can be done with stock internals so just keep that in mind when you shift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxAL0VXkG6c

1989irocz1

On my 1989 iroc with an l98, I raced a 2012 5.0 mustang from stoplight to stoplight and I surprised the hell out of him. On that race I did 0-60 in under 6 seconds. The only mods I have are msd wires and a complete magnaflow exhaust with dual cats. I think the 89-90 irocs did 0-60 in under 6 seconds from the factory.

dimented24x7

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Heres mine. Mild 350: comp-cams 4x4 roller cam, trickflow heads, Victor-E intake/SFI, all on top of a stock GM Goodwrench 350 backed up by a TKO 5-speed and a B/W 9-bolt with 2.77's (yuck...) being shifted around 5800 RPMs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A12U...18rrZg-RrabmEg

My old GTA with an L98 was around 6.5 secs or so. Decent HP, but they where pretty heavy cars.

It can go higher, at least to 5k or so. I wouldnt worry about blowing anything up so long as you dont constantly run it at high RPMs. A good exhaust, induction, and some bolt-ons can help pick up the pace.

Shadow Z

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That guy can't drive then, at all. My '01 GT, bone stock 2 valve engine from the throttle body to the oil pan, and exhaust manifolds, still under 300 crank horsepower, on heavy 18" FR500 wheels, and Sumitomo tires that don't have much grip, is doing 0-60 in 5 seconds, no launch, just rolling it out, on a hot day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVYrIzqbpNA

Imagine if I had some dedicated 15" drag wheels/MT ET streets, good air, and some suspension work. It's just my daily driver though.

My only real mods are exhaust, intake, a wimpy 87 octane tune, 3.73s, T56 swap. Still not working with much power at all. The aluminum driveshaft might save 1 rear wheel horsepower.

Same car pulling a 130+ MPH fly by:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMDMY...eature=channel

fasteddi

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I think greencamaros getting a 82 z28 insted of the sixshooter camaro.

On these 3.1L engines it takes alot to really wake them up..I.E. camshaft,hybrid topend/ or at least porting the heads, header, and really a turbo or n20 is the only way to make the car compete with stock L98's I would put $$$ that I could keep up or beat a stock L98 right now, but ive got about 900 bucks racked into my cars motor, cam, ported heads, turbo, and custom tuning. I didnt want a V8 swap and as its just too much complications for a original V6 car, and honestly I didnt see myself commiting to the money involved and the fabrication it would have needed.

Some people say why dump $$ like that into a V6?? Well personally, Id rather have my lil V6 run 14 or 13's in the 1/4 mile then have a V8 run in the 13 or 12's. Its just more unique in my mind and its a huge challenge to make these engines fast.

Im not sure who said thsi first... BUT. "Any idiot can make a V8 fast but not any Idiot can make a V6 fast".

project89

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this is a 3.1 v6 with some love thrown at it ( which just happenes to be faster then alot of the v8 cars here lmao)
these are old times and i dont have an exact 0-60 time but heres some old time slips

0-83mph in 8.3 seconds
0-104.5 mph in 13 seconds flat

and video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KALeK...9&feature=plcp

car has gone very very low 12's @ 118mph
and its 0-60 is prolly along the lines of 3.5 seconds
mph and time at the 1/8th is 94mph @ 7.6 seconds

0-60 is way to hard to judge form the 1/8th times though

fasteddi

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I jelous...I hope I can pull out some slips like that this year dave, impressive. My 0-83mph times are roughly arround 10 seconds. That like 2 seconds slower then yours..

Video will be up dave if all goes well today. 60* and sunny in ohio!

project89

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u will get there dont forget all ur tunning and timing is being done on the street and u cant launch the car underboost on the street cause it will spin.

launching with boost and hooking will drop ur times by about 1 second.
and as u start to gather the other pieces to make the car work well like converter/gears/suspension stuff it will get faster without any other mods

fasteddi

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I sure cant wait to make a pass dave!!

Ive been recording solid 6.1-3's 0-60mph times. So Id like to see what my 1/8 mile would be on the track when I launch good.

You 13.4 second pass was 8.61@80.44Mph 1/8 mile. Im clocking out 0-80Mph in 9.88 plus or minus .5 seconds for error in the recording method. So right now your past turboed V6 car would kick my A$$ by a landslide at the track.

dimented24x7

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Obviously it does take more effort since theyre a smaller displacement engine. Some of the later ones (3.5L/3.9L) are actually pretty good engines powerwise with the later large valve aluminum heads. The one in my malibu is rated at 217 HP (stock 3.5L) so its possible to get some decent power out of them with good heads, cam and exhaust. Like any N/A engine, though, the displacement will be the ultimate arbitrator of how much power it can ultimately make. At that point then you need to look to forced induction to get more out of it.

fasteddi

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I ment that specifically thirdgen 60* V6's are more difficult to make power. Bolt ons just dont cut in on these V6's I learned that the hard way, youll be chasing your tail and wallet forever.

Yea power adders are the way to make more significant Hp on less $ compared to making a N/A set up were youd be harded pressed to ever get near 200Hp to the crank without going over to hybrid 3.XX heads. Those Iron heads we have, limit our power gains alot!!!

project89

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actually thats not true
pilsburys 3.4 dynoed 170rwhp and 240rwtq i think it was at like 2 psi and the clutch was slipping id say his car is pretty damn close to 200 crank with only ported heads and a very very mild cam 250 comp cam i belive

project89

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i firmly beilve i could put a n/a v6 into the mid to low 13's,

fasteddi

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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

project89

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it would cost more thn a turbo build but i dont think it would actually be to bad

fasteddi

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Yea I know but I think im hooked on boost now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's addictive.

project89

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before u know it now that u have done one turbo install u will be putting therm on everything u own and drive

besides my turbo v6 car i now have my twin turbo iroc , twin turbo silverado 2500 4x4, getting the stuff together to turbocharge my 3.5L v6 dodge intrepid, next im goint to pick up a nice hatch back civic or get a bike and turbo charge that and use a microsquirt for engine management

more then likley ill get a bike to turbo before the civic though

Guest

It would suck so much to put in all this work to only run 13's. Just saying. Its about speed, not uniqueness. Uniqueness is called a car show.

project89

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900 bucks to run 13's and be 4-5 seconds faster then stock is not alot of work, and that 900 bucks will get u into the low 12's

my v6 with a lil more money in it then fastedis will go into the 11's without trying to hard

which is more then fast enough for a street car/daily driver that gets 34-36mph on the highway short of spending 2,500 bucks on a heads/cam and intake package for ur l98 u wont come close to my v6 car

sure u could go throw a 200 shot of nitrous on it for 5-800 bucks and keep up but how long do u think that stock l98 is going to hold up and what happenes when u run out of n20

fasteddi

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Im loving every second of this turbo build. I beat a 2001 Camaro z28 today(barly but still won) it was automatic but still man, this car IS fast. It was a 17 second car before and for 900bucks to literly double the horsepower is amazing!! And got a 1991 350TPI GT/A with a 4.11 gear/posi rear by almost a half second last weekend at the track. Ive put the vid up of that already.

Believe me this is uniqueness. You probly dont believe me but alot of people come up to me and give me props on the car, and this is coming from 12 second and lower racers that have all out race cars. They just think its amazing that I got a V6 car to gain 100-150Hp and still be reliable, safe, and on a tight budget. And the power is always there unlike n2o.

I got a average of 23MPG on my last tank of gas(and this is in OPEN loop on the ECM), and thats including beating the crap out of it for a good amount of miles. Id like to see a 13-14 sec camaro get that sort of MPG and beating on it most of the miles let alone be in open loop only.....

I dont care what anyone thinks...I love my V6 Camaro and all its capible of!!!

project89

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when i had my first turbo system i went to the swap meet and car show, i was parked right next to a very rare zr-1 vette with the lt-5 or whatever they called it motor , my car got more attention over the 2 day period then the vette.

so much infact that the vette guy got pissed off and moved his car to the other side of track

Guest

By L98 will be in tip top shape long after that six banger is coughing out oil. $900 bucks? Dear sweet Jesus if I had $900 bucks to spend on my car right now it would not even be a competition.

fasteddi

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Yea I figured a responce like that

I see your cars all stock in your profile. How about I give your V8 a 1/2 head start in the 1/4 mile??? Or give me a week or 2 to get my launch down and I'll give you a whole second...lmfao

project89

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you right it wouldnt be a competition u wont touch my v6 for 900 bucks and how long an engine lives isnt depndant on its size either


my original v6 engine went 250,000 boosted miles before i pulled it, when i pulled it there was nothing wrong with it other then i was upgrading from the 2.8