Americanmouse

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Here's a idea that someone has, "kills 2 birds with one stone" Just need to find a thirdgen bra!

yamaha6611

hah thats horrible, heavy, 4cyl, slow plus no aftermarket support, stuck with an auto 4door prob lol


crx is legit.

fly89gta

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The Sunbirds came in a coupe...horrible aftermarket like you said though.

jj74sd455

shows what you know, ive seen the 87 sunbird turbo 4 run in the 12s with little mods,hondas suck and i prefer american cars and if more of us had maybe pontiac would still be around. yes,i hold a grudge against imports as a union worker and try to buy only american made parts

jj74sd455

oh yeah it was a 4 spd 2 door

Orr89RocZ

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Good luck, not many things made in america anymore...even the "american" cars

Caveman305

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blame corporate America for not wanting to pay American workers to make quality products, dont blame the Imports(meaning Honda,Hyundai,ect. not the ridiculously expensive ones) for being made cheaper and sold cheaper, even if they are made with cheaper parts, they know how to work the American Economy and Corporate Jerks want their wallets fat and dont care about Joe somebody

and like Orr89RocZ said, even "American" Cars are built in other countries, wouldnt a Chevy built in Canada still be an "Import"

and Yamaha6611 your right Vspec is Nissan, Vtec is honda

Carlos773

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I wouldn't mind a fast pocket rocket to replace my cam as a DD

jj74sd455

you say its corporate america's fault, i say its anybody that buys a non american brand.every make has a comparable product to battle the competition, and as far as quality of product-anyone gonna buy a new toyota?didnt think so. most sales are based on appearance anyway. and cars built in canada arent imported here,some are brought over but they dont put mph speedos in them do they,they are in kilometers.

jj74sd455

i can tell you dont know anything about unions, those cars get messed up if they park on a union job site-hope i see it soon

Caveman305

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with that logic, Toyotas, Hondas, VW's none of those are imports? they are here with KPH(JDM) and MPH(USDM)

and can we please not bring in this whole union BS in here, my father Was the Spokesman for his PG county Fire Union, i know alot about Unions i was even in a Printers Union when i was a Pressman, but its BS about the buy American thing, because Almost NOTHING is made in America anymore, when you repair your F-body do you use Only AC Delco parts? you are probably like most guys on here that go to the part store and buy some Basic part made in china or wherever, the clothes you wear are most likely not American Made

most crap nowadays is "Designed" in America And built Elsewhere for Cost Efficiency, for the fat cats to keep their wallets stuffed

i agree more things should be made and bought by Americans for Americans

but the argument here is not going to get you anywhere

Orr89RocZ

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I can see this spiraling out of control. Lets save the debate for another forum

86White_T/A305

Soooo back to topic lol, for the guys on here who do have hondas..what times are you running.Just curious?

Caveman305

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this isnt the Forum to debate on that subject

Caveman305

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my buddy runs in the 11's not N/A

another one runs 13's N/A

86White_T/A305

I got a coworker building a k20 n/a and another neighbor building a b16a n/a..both want to run my 383 hsr from a roll only lol which will be kinda out of my comfort zone lol

CamaroIROC88350

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LOL, yes, those freaking Honda's can be pretty quick. I mean they're not much for torque but horsepower wise they can whoop butt sometimes with good set ups and stuff. Plus they weigh next to nothing, so a Civic could whoop alot of our butts just because it's lighter. My brother has a 1995 Civic bone stock with just a K&N filter cone & he beat my Jeep (Jeep has 200 horsepower with 235 ft. of torque) but my brother's car was just too quick with the lightness.

TACGNOL

Yes Honduh's can be fast, but you need to add a strong tow lead and a 10 sec car to pull it with. Or you can drive them off a high cliff.

LULZ NO TORKS...

DrummerDad

Can they be fast? Yeah. But if you tie a big enough rocket to a bucket of ****, it will be fast too.

The local forum where I am heavily favors imports. Im a RWD guy. I dont like most imports, but I hate fwd. I get alot of crap for it, but I look at it like this:

If you take the same hp and put it into a fwd car and a rwd car, which will be faster, all other things being equal? If I want a car that runs like a sewing machine, and gets good gas mileage, Ill look at an import. If I want to go fast, Ill look elsewhere.

And Ive heard all the "pro" import arguments. Its apples and oranges. 3rd gens were never made with the idea in mind to compete with, or be compared to a fwd import. About the only thing they have in common is they all have 4 wheels.

Its the same for alot of foreign things. I would never eat raw fish or octopus legs. They seem to love it. Its great to live in a country where we can do pretty much what we want.

Americanmouse

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Here's a few more things to add.

1.) Lets not for get the smog years; from the mid 70's to earlier 90's the domestic car was punished by all the laws that were slapped on their faces in killing performance for emissions!
2.) If you compare a stock Rice Burner to any domestic sports car of the same year which would be faster, no add ons to either? "STOCK ONLY" (example: By rice burner I mean as a example a Honda Civic)
3.) There is no replacement for displacement! (should be in the car bible, if there ever was one!)
3.) Those who say almost everything we own is some how foreign, your right. ( I own a 1990 1200 XLH Harley Davidson, the lower fork legs say on the bottom Made in Japan) And the great American Dream is in jeopardy for that very reason!
4.) You can make any stock car fast by adding on; Turbos, Super Chargers, Nitrous, even rebuilding the engine, gutting it etc.
5.) If I want a Muscle car I'll buy American, if I want a Exotic sports car I'll buy European, If I want a good Economy car I'll buy a Import!
5.) I'm not a fan of Unions, but they do represent what little is left of the American Dream!

CamaroIROC88350

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One thing and this is off topic but where did you buy your hood at?

2: I agree with everything you said. Honda's can be fast just like anything else out here. Heck, you can make a go kart fast enough to beat a Ferrari but that's for another topic.

Americanmouse

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I got my hood from the these guys!
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/ca...turbohood.aspx

Americanmouse

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Your right about that, as matter of fact what are Ferrari stats during that decade? Then compare that with what they do today!

Caveman305

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Exactly, i just bought a set of gaskets all Fel-pro gaskets for my motor, guess what the back of each and every package says

"Made in America using foreign parts"

so even though its "made in America" does not mean its "MADE" in America, its just Assembled here,

i love me some American Cars, But i would also love to own a CRX or Integra Type R, and thats just me

Caveman305

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Here in Maryland we like to make extremely fast Lawnmowers

CamaroIROC88350

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I remember looking at a Ferrari from the 1990's that had 300 horsepower but when you look at it you wouldn't think that.

CamaroIROC88350

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I'd like to own a WRX STI or a Evo Lancer. Those are bad a@@.

Americanmouse

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I'm Sorry to hear that! "I will never own a Import sports car." Although I would consider owning a economy import car, for fuel mileage etc. But if the American Auto Manufacturers, could make a economy car that would/could compete with the imports I would go the American way!

Americanmouse

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Ditto to my last reply!!!

CamaroIROC88350

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You know what's funny? I found this SAME hood on Craigslist late last year for sale @ $125 new. I didn't have the money altogether at the time so I ended up missing on that one.

Caveman305

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Cobalt SS will run with the best imports all day long
my Wifes cobalt LT is a mean little beast as well
and both get pretty good gas mileage

i only own American cars, but if i had the money i would have a CRX just for kicks

Americanmouse

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Thanks for rubbing it in! "just kidding!"
I actually made out pretty good, on the hood. A contractor did something stupid, to my car and several other cars at my work parking lot. Instead of letting the insurance companies handle it and raise his rates. He offered all of us cash. Well Cash is king in my neck of the woods. So the hood cost me $0!!!

CamaroIROC88350

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My uncle had a 88 CRX for the longest time. I think he had it for 16 years with 300,000 miles before he sold it to this kid. It was a quick little car for only going up to 85mph?

Americanmouse

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Your right about the Colbolts. But what I hate about them, is they compete after the imports in a ***** way. I think what also annoyes me about them as well, is I had a Jag-off at my work who thought his P.O.S. riced out Colbolt was faster than my bolt on modified 1994 z-28. I killed him multiple times, and each time he said I cheated. He was just that much slower, than my Z!!! (STUPID ***** MENTALITY!!!)

CamaroIROC88350

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No, I'm jealous! Dang, that's a good deal. I think once I do find the hood you got for mine that I'm going to keep my original hood too. The car is worth more with original stuff, so I'd just put it in a lock up somewhere.

I also want to know if your hood is bad for letting leaves & water get into your engine bay?

Americanmouse

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Great cars for economy reasons!

CamaroIROC88350

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I think a stock Cobalt SS has 210 horsepower. I looked it up one time and thought to myself wow, that's not much. But the LT has even less. So those cars while they look cool aren't impressive enough for me to ever want one.

Americanmouse

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I Never had a problem, but she is garage kept. Also I don't drive her at all in the Winter or any bad weather for that matter if I can help it. I also bought, but have not took the time yet to put on a black plastic screen mesh that would cover the side slots.

Caveman305

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You have to factor in weight with it, no 210 isnt very impressive but for it being so lite it packs a punch and gets great gas mileage,

And for the rice thing im sorry to hear a punk kid thought that, but you give any kid a car thats "sporty" like a mustang camaro cobalt civic si or whatever it may be, they will think they can beat anything regardless what motor it has,

My wifes cobalt looks bone stock all we did was CAI and exhaust, its our "family car" but it hangs pretty well with the imports even with 120 hp it "***** n' gits"

CamaroIROC88350

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I've always thought those look heavier than the older Honda's that kids like to race in. The newer cars get heavier with all of the safety equipment & the like. When I race I like to just be in the car alone because of the weight issue but then again I need someone to hold the camera while I dole out some butt whoopings.

Americanmouse

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Not to knock your Colbolt, but what do think it would do without the Turbo? Same thing goes for the imports. My point being again for all readers; stock domestic Vs stock import which produces the best in stats without add ons?

CamaroIROC88350

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I tend to think the stock domestics have more power vs. the stock imports. Alot of times the stock imports weigh less, so that is their biggest advantage. Weight vs. power ratio. But most stock domestic cars (I assume were talking about sporty cars, pony/muscle cars) are faster. It also depends on what era were talking about too. The early 70's into the mid 80's were power killers. The late 80's brought back some more than welcome power changes too. The other thing is that the American cars tend to have more torque so that does make a difference. Then again if the stock import is strong enough it can dump the clutch to make a good fight off the line.

jharrison5

If you really want to screw with an import driver just do what I do. Here in Nebraska my 3rd gens get a nice long rest during the winter, since they are worthless in the snow/ice. My DD is an 03' 4x4 Chevy silverado Ext cab putting out around 400hp. I am just amused when they try to out run me and I blow their doors off. You would think that they would notice the sound of my truck cuz it is not quiet. The posers get pissed and the true car guys just laugh.

Americanmouse

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Now that is what I'm talking about. True American Power, and whats even better is your truck weighs a hell of alot more than those go-carts!

jharrison5

Only problem is that I probably use more fuel in one good run than one of their tanks can hold!

KNBlazer

Hondas and Acuras just made the local news... driver of Honda was racing, crashed, driver stepped out of car into number 4 lane and was struck by an Acura.... ***** Owners just don't understand to leave their racing at the race track...

spiffiestpengui

hmm....where could i go about finding one of these lawn mowers..... :P jk

C-Titan

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Besides an NSX, my s2k is the only Honda i'll ever own...

High 13's out of the box, perfect weight distribution, and a very impressive HP\Displacement rating...



It's quick, but I only drive it for the air conditioning

haha

CamaroIROC88350

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Nice looking Honda.

Orr89RocZ

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRgxSKXmxGQ

Yeah.....