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Old 11-24-2014, 11:53 AM
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I should have wrote this story when it happened a few months ago. My stepdad friend has a Cadillac Eldorado. He told me it's the 330 hp engine but I can't find it online so I'm guessing it's the 300 hp. He kept telling me wants to race thinking I still had a old 350 in it. So headed to a friends house we find a light with no traffic. So I put in drive and waited for the light to turn green. The light turns green I let him get the jump to make sure we were racing. He pulled a bumper in front of me I caught him around the 60 ft and put a car on him. I held that lead to about 90 where traffic was coming and we slowed down. So I know on the 1/8 mile track I would have him beat. After the race he said I lied to him and that I definitely had "some ****" under my hood. He tells me how he has raced bmws, newer cars and always wins. It's the only car I raced this summer. Not bad for a basically stock lt1. Mods in sig
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Not surprised. When the 4th gens came out my friends bone stock 93 Z28 tripped the quarter at 13.8 Those LT1s are fast! Too bad the 4th gen Camaros were so ugly.
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I personally think the lt1 belonged in a stock thirdgen. With the extra weight saved its a low 13 second car in stock form.
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Wats urs turning in the 1/4 ?
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Wats urs turning in the 1/4 ?
I don't know. Haven't been to the track since my car has been running on all 8. Last time I had 3 bad spark plug wires and only trapped 66 mph on a 1/8 mile track. I made a pull using a iPad app and trapped 83 mph in a 1/8 but I don't know how accurate it is.
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Originally Posted by jaybdaboat
I should have wrote this story when it happened a few months ago. My stepdad friend has a Cadillac Eldorado. He told me it's the 330 hp engine but I can't find it online so I'm guessing it's the 300 hp. He kept telling me wants to race thinking I still had a old 350 in it. So headed to a friends house we find a light with no traffic. So I put in drive and waited for the light to turn green. The light turns green I let him get the jump to make sure we were racing. He pulled a bumper in front of me I caught him around the 60 ft and put a car on him. I held that lead to about 90 where traffic was coming and we slowed down. So I know on the 1/8 mile track I would have him beat. After the race he said I lied to him and that I definitely had "some ****" under my hood. He tells me how he has raced bmws, newer cars and always wins. It's the only car I raced this summer. Not bad for a basically stock lt1. Mods in sig
Cadillac Eldorado is slow, I have a BMW too and I guarantee his Cadillac would eat my dust. Hp doesn't matter, its power to weight ratio and 0-60 that matters.
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If an LT1 thirdgen cannot destroy any Caddilac save a CTS-V, Vsport, and now ATS-V then something is wrong.

This is a Thirdgen with the lowest HP LT1 there was, the Iron headed B-body.

And BTW, thats a broken 4L60E that won't go into 4th gear, w/o TQ Lock-up, and can't shift till 6000rpm @ WOT, which is about 700rpm past peak power on the B-body LT1.

That engine surprised a HELL of of a lot of people considering how mellow it idled even with full exhaust. Idle sounded like a perfectly stock thirdgen.

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If an LT1 thirdgen cannot destroy any Caddilac save a CTS-V, Vsport, and now ATS-V then something is wrong....
True.
And your example isn't even close to what that lowly B-body version of the LT1 can do.
My stock engine, except for 1.6 roller rockers, 1996 B-body at 3925 lbs went a best of 12.36 @ 107.
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True.
And your example isn't even close to what that lowly B-body version of the LT1 can do.
My stock engine, except for 1.6 roller rockers, 1996 B-body at 3925 lbs went a best of 12.36 @ 107.
12.36 @ 107 with a stock B-body engine in 3900lbs car?

Tell me another one. There are more mods there than listed. Rockers alone not going to help that cam.
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12.36 @ 107 with a stock B-body engine in 3900lbs car?

Tell me another one. There are more mods there than listed. Rockers alone not going to help that cam.
careful!
Rockers and springs are the only internal engine mods, not stock everything else on the car though
4.10 gears, 3400 TC, and a COLD high pressure day!
It's the record holder for stock cam / stock head B-bodies.
Go here and scroll down to entry # 131, click on "detail" for the mods:
http://www.top-et.com/impalass/index...dClass=6&Sort=

There's a lot of information on that webpage from people who know how to make LT1's run
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Originally Posted by 86LG4Bird
careful!
Rockers and springs are the only internal engine mods, not stock everything else on the car though
4.10 gears, 3400 TC, and a COLD high pressure day!
It's the record holder for stock cam / stock head B-bodies.
Go here and scroll down to entry # 131, click on "detail" for the mods:
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There's a lot of information on that webpage from people who know how to make LT1's run
You leave quite a bit out there. Stock B-body LT1 + rockers does not come close to describing the other mods to the car.
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Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA
You leave quite a bit out there. Stock B-body LT1 + rockers does not come close to describing the other mods to the car.
My original point was that even the lowly b-body cam is capable of making power with the great stock LT1 heads and intake. Ignore the ET if you wish; I just stated it since you posted similarly. I was only attempting to validate and enhance your point.
No matter what else is done to the car, just look at the mph vs weight; that tells you how much power it's making. The other vehicle mods make the ET.
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Re: Thirdgen lt1 vs Cadillac Eldorado

friend of mine went 11.80's with a bolt on lt1 in a 4th gen. they are great engines.
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