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Old 10-31-2001, 12:06 PM
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T-56 clutch fork won't go on?!?!?!?

does anybody have any suggestions? i have the tranny bolted to the bellhousing, but the fork just won't go on the bearing. i tried turning the engine over to move the bearing to that flat spot, but it just doesn't seem to work. please help. i want to be able to drive my thirdgen again
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please please please help.
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Car: 1999 Pontiac T/A Firehawk
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Sounds like you might have the wrong throwout bearing. The T5 bearing I had had no "flat spot", it was completely round. The T56 bearing is sort of square shaped...
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Shouldnt be able to have the wrong t/o bearing, the LT1 its part of the press plate... unless you tried to use a T5 clutch :-/ .....

Old 11-01-2001, 01:28 PM
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the fork wont go on at all? can you get a picture of this? what exactly is it doing, besides not going on. i am not sure about this but i dont think the fork slides on all the way, i couldnt get it to reach all the way on mine when i "test" fitted my clutch,flywheel,PP.

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Car: 88 Monte SS
Engine: Super-rammed L-98 383
Transmission: T-56 6-Speed
Axle/Gears: 8.5" G-BODY G-80 3.73
The LT-1 T.O.B. is the one with the ROUND clutch fork engagement section, and the TOB can be removed from the PP by simply removing that retention spring. The LT-4 T.O.B. is the one with the SQUARE clutch fork retention section, and is retained in the PP in the same manner as the LT-1 TOB. I haven't used a LT-4 TOB in this application, but I have used LT-4 PP's with LT-1 TOB's all the time. You sure that you have the CLUTCH FORK engaged in the T-NUT properly? This shouldn't be causing such a problem unless something is actually wrong. The best bet is to just remove the gearbox again and check things out. HTH's

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wel i know that i haqve the throughout bearing that has a flat side. when i put the clutch in i made sure that the flat side was so that i could slide the fork on when the time came. well when the time came it wouldn't go on. it just seemed like there was no flat side where i thought. the bearing looked slightly too big. so i cranked the engine over a couple of times while checking in between to see if the flat side had turned to the right spot. but it never did. i guess i'm gonna just have to take the gearbox out again. exactly how should the retaining nut on the fork be? tighten it down all the way or what? thanks for your help guys
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well i got my trans stabbed tonight, boy that sucked. my question is does the fork have to be completely on the TOB? here is a image to show what i mean.sort of.

that is how mine is right now it was as far as i could get it right then, so i gave up for the night and figured i'd ask if it would go further.
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Old 11-01-2001, 11:29 PM
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Ok I know whats wrong. I make sure I have it on before I have it completely stabbed. I when I had mine rebuilt the hicks couldnt get it on by force so they grinded the bellhousing some (so the fork can pull further out and you can get it on the bearing.)

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Old 11-01-2001, 11:35 PM
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chris, so what's the problem? what do you mean when you say stabbed?

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Well I just had the tip of the input shaft in the pilot bearing and "snaped" the fork on the bearing and continued installing the trans. your fork is unable to pull out enough to get over the throw-out bearings lip right??

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by stabbed he means, tranny to bellhousing attached. i dont think that i can do it like this though, the fork doesnt appear to be long enough. also i dont want to pull the trans away considering how much of PITA it was to get stabbed to begin with.

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dont pull it completely away. the only way the people who installed my trans could attach it was by grinding some metal away from the bellhousing so they could pull the clutch fork away just alittle bit.
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how far does it slide on though? see pic above.
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That should be good if I remember correctly. The edges of the fork should in the middle.

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