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Old 05-24-2004, 10:58 PM   #1
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Mounting tires without a fancy machine...

How exactly do you do it? Ive used a tire machine a billion times, but noone ever showed me how to do it without one? Im assuming you lube it up (With soap, perhaps) and use a prybar of some sorts to take apart the beads? Whats the trick to it, though?
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Why wouldnt you just take the tires and rims to someplace that has a machine? Your probably gonna mess up the rim doing it yourself, A tire place or garage shouldnt charge all that much to do it.
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Why wouldnt you just take the tires and rims to someplace that has a machine? Your probably gonna mess up the rim doing it yourself, A tire place or garage shouldnt charge all that much to do it.
Thanks for the feedback, but that really didnt answer my question...

As for damaging the wheel, im not sure wedging a prybar underneath the bead and rotating the tire will do that. (Im assuming thats what I would do... how, im not sure.)
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Thanks for the feedback, but that really didnt answer my question...

As for damaging the wheel, im not sure wedging a prybar underneath the bead and rotating the tire will do that. (Im assuming thats what I would do... how, im not sure.)
if it was me i'd like to have peace of mind that my tire isnt going to fly off going down the highway because it was put on by some dude with a pry bar and no machine
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I thought people actually did this sort of thing.

All you have to do is get it off and back onto the beads.. shouldnt be that hard. Once you inflate it, it will set perfectly. Its awfully hard to **** up, I just need to know the trick to doing it without a machine.
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if it was me i'd like to have peace of mind that my tire isnt going to fly off going down the highway because it was put on by some dude with a pry bar and no machine
And BTW, if it was mounted poorly enough to fly off, it wouldve deflated before it left the shop.
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even so, i wouldnt trust it to myself, id rather pay like what is it 10-20 tops.. to get it donw properly
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even so, i wouldnt trust it to myself, id rather pay like what is it 10-20 tops.. to get it donw properly
Probably end up doing that. Im sure I could shoehorn them on at home, but its probably more hassle than its worth.
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Probably end up doing that. Im sure I could shoehorn them on at home, but its probably more hassle than its worth.
yeah i wuld say it is, and also there's proably some law that it ahs to be done by a professionally certified person nowadays like brakes.
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I've done it with a bumper jack, but car's don't use those anymore much less a third gen! Use wieght to your advantage, set your tire under (front has more weight) where the rotor contacts the tire next to the edge of the rim and let the jack down, and it should break the tire off the bead. Turn it over and do the same thing. After you break both beads, you should be able to get a tire iron between the tire and the rim. Pull the iron back and smack the tire iron with a heavy hammer to work the tire off the rim. The back side of the rim usually has the smallest bead so that's the side you want to take the tire off. Do what you can to protect the rim from scratches (ain't to hard to figure out).
Reverse order to re-instal the tire and add air! Hope this answers your question! Of corse, you will still have to get them balanced!
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I've done it with a bumper jack, but car's don't use those anymore much less a third gen! Use wieght to your advantage, set your tire under (front has more weight) where the rotor contacts the tire next to the edge of the rim and let the jack down, and it should break the tire off the bead. Turn it over and do the same thing. After you break both beads, you should be able to get a tire iron between the tire and the rim. Pull the iron back and smack the tire iron with a heavy hammer to work the tire off the rim. The back side of the rim usually has the smallest bead so that's the side you want to take the tire off. Do what you can to protect the rim from scratches (ain't to hard to figure out).
Reverse order to re-instal the tire and add air! Hope this answers your question! Of corse, you will still have to get them balanced!
Yes, that was what I was looking for. Thanks
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http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...e+tire+changer

In that thread RBob [Mod] gave me the key information to make it easy. That bit of info was worth a million bucks.

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4X4 guys usually get the new tire back on the rim and spray the inside of the tire with ether and throw a match at it. It'll make a small explosion, but it'll bead and inflate the tire at the same time. DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME!!
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That's why 4x4 guy's don't have eyebrows! I always wondered about that!
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Been there done that. The prybar method works on steel wheels, but chews the hell out of the edges of aluminum wheels. If you don't care about your wheels, go for it.
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Yikes, just spend the $35 for your own manual machine and be done with it. The pry bar will work but it would be tough. The only real need for the $35 stand as it hold the tire well and at waist hight. So you can work on it well. It was the best $35 ever spent. I have done $100's of dollars worth of work with it already.

You wont spend better money on a tool.
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off topic slightly, but in response to a reply here...what law stating brakes have to be done by professionals...i've never heard that before...i've been doing my own brakes forever and other peoples too...but yea...putting a tire on a rim...i would rather also take it to my local statino and have my buddy do it for me...
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off topic slightly, but in response to a reply here...what law stating brakes have to be done by professionals...i've never heard that before...i've been doing my own brakes forever and other peoples too...
Sounds like you're a pro then!

I haven't heard of that either; I assume it keeps a "We only change oil" shop from trying to do someone's brakes.
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Sounds like you're a pro then!

I haven't heard of that either; I assume it keeps a "We only change oil" shop from trying to do someone's brakes.
yeah? maybe its canada only, but i know that if you get into an accident and somehow they find out your brakes were done youself or somethign you can get in big **** over it
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yeah? maybe its canada only, but i know that if you get into an accident and somehow they find out your brakes were done youself or somethign you can get in big **** over it
Funny you say that. I watch the CBC often and keep seeing canada tire / reybest brake pad commercials on how you can easily change them your self. Oh and buy them at ct.
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Sounds like fun, I would just preffer to fu(k up my tire and rim, rather then pay 10-15 bux to get it installed properly. So i'm with you dood. but when something bad happens don't come whining here.

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This thread is still alive? Interesting.

Anyways, since my family and I are frequent customers at hibdons, they mounted and balanced them for free.

Someday im gonna get one of those machines from harbor freight. Cooool.....
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This thread is still alive? Interesting.

Anyways, since my family and I are frequent customers at hibdons, they mounted and balanced them for free.

Someday im gonna get one of those machines from harbor freight. Cooool.....

Awwe I thought you were going to mount them for yourself.
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I was going to, until I found out I could have it done for free.

Too bad school is out, we have all sorts of cool toys there I couldve used. I couldve mounted my tires, balanced them, rotated them, done a brake job, and new ball joints in about 4 hours
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ive done it a few times with a prybar and a bumper jack and a pickup



step 1 : breaking the bead
take tire and place under bumper jack and jack up

step 2 : use prybar to pry off tire lube and reinstall

step 3 : inflate to set bead
step 4 : set air pressure to factory specs and install on car
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