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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
not just intakes, but any of the parts. like the cams and all that other good stuff. guess i should have clarified in that first one. ha.
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You should add the trueleo hi-flo intake for use with the stock FI system. No need to go to a carb to get more CFM and rpm. trueleo.com
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
lower intake heater tube fitting
not really aftermarket performance but is somethign common to replace
http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductD...pe=938&PTSet=A
not really aftermarket performance but is somethign common to replace
http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductD...pe=938&PTSet=A
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TCI Rattler Harmonic Balancer for V6 Camaro
Has anyone installed a TCI Rattler on their V6's? I went onto Jegs website, and it came up under the '87 Camaro V6 application. Went onto Summit's website, and of course it isn't listed as being applied for our engines; this isn't uncommon though. The balancer is part# TCI-870022
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
partstrain.com has a bunch of parts for this car. Has the pacesetter headers for bout 230$ or something like that.
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I am having a problem with my rear end. I want to put bigger tires and raise up the back end, an not sure which is the best way to go, could you help?
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Am I the only one to niotice summit has changed and now every link to their site just takes you to the home page.. wtf?
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body out there that can help me or point me in the right direction with these problems.
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first i would start with springs and shocks back there and if you're thinking of racing it go with some double adjustable panhard bars for like 300 for all helps you hook better.
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
Hi can you give me the link to webpage that is selling Full rebuild gasket set for 3.1 engine?
it would be also great if you could advise me gasket set of which brand is better.
thanks
it would be also great if you could advise me gasket set of which brand is better.
thanks
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
Bore the block, use premium rings, upgrade the camshaft, upgrade the fuel injectors. Headers would be nice.
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
T5 bellhousing to mount a ford T5 to 60* (FWD) engines, from a site that makes kits to swap 3400's into MG's
http://www.britishcarconversions.com...category_id=28
Alot of info on 60* engines and swapping them into RWD platforms
http://www.britishcarconversions.com/faqs-mainmenu-25
http://www.britishcarconversions.com...category_id=28
Alot of info on 60* engines and swapping them into RWD platforms
http://www.britishcarconversions.com/faqs-mainmenu-25
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
i am about to be rebuilding my engine in my 2.8 and i am going to go with a different cam than stock, but dont know which would be better this lunati one from summit http://www.summitracing.com/parts/LUN-06312/ or this comp cam set from them http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-K16-232-4/ . any suggestions? i am also going to be putting the pacesetter headers on there and bringing the exhaust straigh back, x-piping it close to the diff and then bringing it into a magnaflow 2 inlet 2 outlet muffler. sound good?
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
That Comp Cam set is the usual "set" price, but also on the expensive side. I purchased the Crower CompuCam stage 1 for mine which has a comparable rpm range, but with a higher lobe separation angle for better fuel economy; 114 degrees instead of the 110 that the CompCam has. 112 degree lobe separation angle is the factory stock spec which with everyone else factory set is suppose to give 28mpg I believe. A good cam better than the comp cam would be the Edelbrock or Melling which have good numbers for your future dual exhaust set-up.
Question for you though: How would you run your dual exhaust from headers designed for use of a Y-Pipe. The drivers side of the headers are not straight downward angled to run straight back down the car from.
Also, I'm not sure how earlier model headers are shaped. Maybe they both evenly run straight back for what your wanting to do. I do know however, that they will not have the EGR connection on them.
Question for you though: How would you run your dual exhaust from headers designed for use of a Y-Pipe. The drivers side of the headers are not straight downward angled to run straight back down the car from.
Also, I'm not sure how earlier model headers are shaped. Maybe they both evenly run straight back for what your wanting to do. I do know however, that they will not have the EGR connection on them.
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i am not fully sure on the way i am giong to set the exhaust up yet, but i am sure i can figure it out. probably going to run the drivers side in a little bit towadrs the driveshaft then about a foot before the diff i will x-pipe it then go over the axle into the muffler. but with the cam situation i am not looking for a ton of performance, just a bit more and still get fair gas milage sinc i dont get that good of gas mileage now
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
http://pro-fab.freehostia.com/store/index.php
site is not fully setup yet so if u want to order something or have any questions pm me
site is not fully setup yet so if u want to order something or have any questions pm me
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didnt like the old site so im starting a new one
link is here
http://profab.xp3.biz/
should b up in a few days
link is here
http://profab.xp3.biz/
should b up in a few days
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
need a cold are kit for 3.1 v6 or 2.8 i have it
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Custom Cold Air Intake (2.8 - 3.1)
Why pay $200 for a professional intake from SLP (which was designed for V8's) when you can easily make your own for about $60? Not only is it cheaper, but this way you will have a better flowing K & N air filter rather than a generic one from SLP. It is easy to make it yourself, and this installation guide will show you exactly what parts you will need, price estimates, and how it is done. This custom cold air intake will get you between 7- 10 horsepower.
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Parts needed:
3" PVC Pipes (~ $12 for all 4 pipes)
-90° elbow
-45° elbow
-straight pipe (exactly 9 inches long)
-adapter (one side with thread inside)
K & N Air Filter (3" cone shaped) (~ $50)
-Part # RE-0810
You can find the PVC pipes at your favorite hardware store such as Lowe's or Home Depot. The K & N Filter will have to be a special order from your local auto parts store such as Auto Zone or Pep Boy's. Most parts stores will not have the item in stock since this specific filter is meant for custom applications. It can also be found on the internet from places like Summit Racing, part # KNN-RE-0810.
First, disconnect your current intake setup. You will need to take off the long plastic piece, but keep the rubber hose that connects to your throttle body. Unclip the air sensor so you can take out the air canister. Next, unscrew the remaining piece of the air sensor from the canister. On the rubber intake hose, slice off the excess rubber on the top which would normally hold a clamp in place.
Next, if you car has a computer, you will want to drill a hole for the air sensor, about 5/8" wide, into the 45° elbow. Make sure it is in the correct place. You may need to file the hole if it does not fit to allow a secure fit for the sensor. If you make the hole too big, you can always wrap electrical tape around the thread of the sensor for a tighter fit.
Now you can assemble part of your intake. Insert the adapter into the 45° elbow. Make sure you forcefully connect them, allowing a tight, secure fit. Take the K & N filter and insert the rubber opening into the threaded side of the adapter. Push the filter all the way in so it will not fall off.
It is now time to cut the straight tube to the correct size. My tube measured exactly 9 inches. I recommend you test it to make sure that is the right size for you. Place the 90° elbow on the end of the rubber intake tube and place the end with the filter in the correct place in the engine compartment. Measure the length for the straight tube.
Once you have the tube cut, you can assemble the entire cold air setup. Then place it in the engine and attach the end to the intake hose. Wrap some electrical tape at the place where the 90° elbow and rubber hose meet for added security. I could feel a very noticeable difference especially at high speeds. Now go for a drive and listen to that intake scream.
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Custom Cold Air Intake (2.8 - 3.1)
Why pay $200 for a professional intake from SLP (which was designed for V8's) when you can easily make your own for about $60? Not only is it cheaper, but this way you will have a better flowing K & N air filter rather than a generic one from SLP. It is easy to make it yourself, and this installation guide will show you exactly what parts you will need, price estimates, and how it is done. This custom cold air intake will get you between 7- 10 horsepower.
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Parts needed:
3" PVC Pipes (~ $12 for all 4 pipes)
-90° elbow
-45° elbow
-straight pipe (exactly 9 inches long)
-adapter (one side with thread inside)
K & N Air Filter (3" cone shaped) (~ $50)
-Part # RE-0810
You can find the PVC pipes at your favorite hardware store such as Lowe's or Home Depot. The K & N Filter will have to be a special order from your local auto parts store such as Auto Zone or Pep Boy's. Most parts stores will not have the item in stock since this specific filter is meant for custom applications. It can also be found on the internet from places like Summit Racing, part # KNN-RE-0810.
Here is what your engine will look like after this modification.
First, disconnect your current intake setup. You will need to take off the long plastic piece, but keep the rubber hose that connects to your throttle body. Unclip the air sensor so you can take out the air canister. Next, unscrew the remaining piece of the air sensor from the canister. On the rubber intake hose, slice off the excess rubber on the top which would normally hold a clamp in place.
Next, if you car has a computer, you will want to drill a hole for the air sensor, about 5/8" wide, into the 45° elbow. Make sure it is in the correct place. You may need to file the hole if it does not fit to allow a secure fit for the sensor. If you make the hole too big, you can always wrap electrical tape around the thread of the sensor for a tighter fit.
Now you can assemble part of your intake. Insert the adapter into the 45° elbow. Make sure you forcefully connect them, allowing a tight, secure fit. Take the K & N filter and insert the rubber opening into the threaded side of the adapter. Push the filter all the way in so it will not fall off.
It is now time to cut the straight tube to the correct size. My tube measured exactly 9 inches. I recommend you test it to make sure that is the right size for you. Place the 90° elbow on the end of the rubber intake tube and place the end with the filter in the correct place in the engine compartment. Measure the length for the straight tube.
Once you have the tube cut, you can assemble the entire cold air setup. Then place it in the engine and attach the end to the intake hose. Wrap some electrical tape at the place where the 90° elbow and rubber hose meet for added security. I could feel a very noticeable difference especially at high speeds. Now go for a drive and listen to that intake scream.
Will this work on a 91 3.1 Pontiac FireChicken? How long do the PVC Pipes have to be? And finally do you have and pics of the setup?
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
Did you even look at the message you just quoted? He lists everything you need and how to put it all together. basically It'll look like your stock intake made out of PXC pipes and a K&N.
Don't expect to see that 7-10 hp though, going from a stock intake with a dirty paper filter you MIGHT see a 3hp gain, but it's really negligible.
Don't expect to see that 7-10 hp though, going from a stock intake with a dirty paper filter you MIGHT see a 3hp gain, but it's really negligible.
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ahh i see, he just confused me a bit in there, and yea i def wasn't expecting a 10 hp gain!
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So what throttle bodies are a direct bolt up? I heard there was a 4.3 or 3.4 I forgot which one, but you'd have to slightly increase the TB opening to get the full effect.
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Same for you?'
If so what was the Hotchkiss Part #?
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
Here's a list of what we have so far. Note that I have omitted certain components not specifically related to the 60deg v6 or that are listed as replacement parts which may be compatible.
Chips-
Jet stage 1 chip> 18908
Jet stage 2 chip> 18908S
Hypertech chip> 129322
Hypertech chip> 128932
Engine components-
GM performance parts alumium block> 10051141
Probe forged pistons (at fiero store)> 52833
Probe forged pistons (at fiero store)> 52835
ARP rod bolts> 133-6002
ARP head studs> 233-4003
ATI harmonic balancer> 917190
Melling high volume oil pump> M95HV
Sealed power high volume oil pump> 224-4148V
Sealed power high volume oil pump> 224-4152V
Edelbrock chrome valvecovers> 4488
Spectre chrome valvecovers> 5268
Headers-
Pacesetter headers> 72C1206
Pacesetter headers> 70-1206
Ignition-
Mallory mechanical distributor> 4569201
Mallory mechanical/vacuum distributor> 2769201
Proform mechanical/vacuum HEI distributor> 67082
MSD cap & rotor kit> 8430
Accel cap & rotor kit> 8133
Mallory rotor> 331
MSD HEI coil> 8226
Proform HEI coil > 66937C
Crane ignition box & coil kit> 6000-6302
Pertronix HEI ignition control module> D2000
Accel HEI ignition control module> 35361
Induction & fuel-
NOS 3.4/3.8 nitrous kit> 05175NOS
(most generic carbs compatible with use of edelbrock 3789 upper intake manifold)
Edelbrock intake manifold (upper 2bbl)> 3787
Edelbrock intake manifold (upper 4bbl)> 3789
Edelbrock intake manifold (lower)> 3785
(most generic injectors compatible)
Underdrive pulleys-
Auto specialties pulley kit> 541801
Jet pulley kit> 90108
Valvetrain-
Edlebrock cam & lifter kit> 3790
Comp cam> 16-233-4
Comp cam> 16-232-4
Comp cam> 16-115-4
Crane cam> 250511
Crane cam> 250801
Crane cam> 251241
Crane cam> 253901
Crane cam> 253941
Crane cam> 254112
Crane cam> 254122
Lunati cam> 06312
Melling cam> MTC-5
(most sm block v8 lifters compatible)
Comp roller tip rockers> 1414-1
Crane alum roller rocker (single)> 25750-1
(most sm block v8 rockers compatible with use of 3/8" or 7/16" studs)
Cloyes roller timing chain> 9-3137
(most sm block v8 and LS1 valve springs compatible with use of associated hardware and/or spring pocket machining)
Links-
www.kb-silvolite.com > large resource for replacement pistons
www.60degreeev6.com/store > ported cylinder heads/ intake manifolds/ throttle bodies, crank scrapers, ect.
www.fierostore.com > ported cylinder heads/ throttle bodies, forged pistons, ect.
www.engine-parts.com > stroker kits, shortblocks, cams
mrzperformance.vstore.ca > ported throttle bodies, underdrive pulleys, billet oil caps
Chips-
Jet stage 1 chip> 18908
Jet stage 2 chip> 18908S
Hypertech chip> 129322
Hypertech chip> 128932
Engine components-
GM performance parts alumium block> 10051141
Probe forged pistons (at fiero store)> 52833
Probe forged pistons (at fiero store)> 52835
ARP rod bolts> 133-6002
ARP head studs> 233-4003
ATI harmonic balancer> 917190
Melling high volume oil pump> M95HV
Sealed power high volume oil pump> 224-4148V
Sealed power high volume oil pump> 224-4152V
Edelbrock chrome valvecovers> 4488
Spectre chrome valvecovers> 5268
Headers-
Pacesetter headers> 72C1206
Pacesetter headers> 70-1206
Ignition-
Mallory mechanical distributor> 4569201
Mallory mechanical/vacuum distributor> 2769201
Proform mechanical/vacuum HEI distributor> 67082
MSD cap & rotor kit> 8430
Accel cap & rotor kit> 8133
Mallory rotor> 331
MSD HEI coil> 8226
Proform HEI coil > 66937C
Crane ignition box & coil kit> 6000-6302
Pertronix HEI ignition control module> D2000
Accel HEI ignition control module> 35361
Induction & fuel-
NOS 3.4/3.8 nitrous kit> 05175NOS
(most generic carbs compatible with use of edelbrock 3789 upper intake manifold)
Edelbrock intake manifold (upper 2bbl)> 3787
Edelbrock intake manifold (upper 4bbl)> 3789
Edelbrock intake manifold (lower)> 3785
(most generic injectors compatible)
Underdrive pulleys-
Auto specialties pulley kit> 541801
Jet pulley kit> 90108
Valvetrain-
Edlebrock cam & lifter kit> 3790
Comp cam> 16-233-4
Comp cam> 16-232-4
Comp cam> 16-115-4
Crane cam> 250511
Crane cam> 250801
Crane cam> 251241
Crane cam> 253901
Crane cam> 253941
Crane cam> 254112
Crane cam> 254122
Lunati cam> 06312
Melling cam> MTC-5
(most sm block v8 lifters compatible)
Comp roller tip rockers> 1414-1
Crane alum roller rocker (single)> 25750-1
(most sm block v8 rockers compatible with use of 3/8" or 7/16" studs)
Cloyes roller timing chain> 9-3137
(most sm block v8 and LS1 valve springs compatible with use of associated hardware and/or spring pocket machining)
Links-
www.kb-silvolite.com > large resource for replacement pistons
www.60degreeev6.com/store > ported cylinder heads/ intake manifolds/ throttle bodies, crank scrapers, ect.
www.fierostore.com > ported cylinder heads/ throttle bodies, forged pistons, ect.
www.engine-parts.com > stroker kits, shortblocks, cams
mrzperformance.vstore.ca > ported throttle bodies, underdrive pulleys, billet oil caps
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
I'm looking for a fresh air package for my 91 firebird v6. I've done quite a bit for the motor. 3.4 crank and cam, .040 cylinders, ported heads, performance ignition system, etc. Now I need to do exhaust and intake upgrades. Preferably a system compatible with k&n air filters. Can anyone help me out?
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Take off the canister and bottleneck that the airfilter normally sits in, get some sheet metal and cut it into a barrier that blocks off the filter from the engine bay with some universal weatherstripping on the top to seal against the hood. Then replace your filter with a k&N.
It's more free flowing, and you keep the hotter air of the engine bay away. Since doing this I've tested it, and the air is usualy kept 5-15* cooler than the engine bay air (depending on speed and outside temps).
It's more free flowing, and you keep the hotter air of the engine bay away. Since doing this I've tested it, and the air is usualy kept 5-15* cooler than the engine bay air (depending on speed and outside temps).
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
I agree. Any way you can route the air into the engine from outside the engine bay will work. Get creative and just make what works. Just dont forget to move the IAT sensor and extend the wire for it, if you remove the canister and just route piping or hose to grab the fresh air.
You can also fab some things together if need be with silicon connectors off ebay. There pretty low cost and also look nice depending on what color you choose.
But since your stuck with a K&N filter already modding the canister to the outide fender would work well also.
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
That's the same thing I was thinking. Actually, on the 91's with the aero package they have 2 lower air dams. I can use the passenger side one to force air into the box.
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Any California legal headers ? Is a delta cam 260 grind smog legal ? Are there any turbos california legal ?
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What throttle bodies are out there. Would one off of a tpi work?
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Transmission: Manual 5 speed
Re: after market parts for 60* motors
Does anyone know if there is a header kit for the 3.1 instead of 2.8
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
I don't believe there is one. But many members have had luck with 2.8L ones....
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Engine: 2.7L V6
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
No headers specifically for the 3.1. 2.8 headers require AIR system delete because the pump to manifold fitting isn't on the #3 primary. Which I believe means no-go in California.
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Car: 1984 F41 Camaro
Engine: LC1 V6 2.8L
Transmission: 4 Speed Auto
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: after market parts for 60* motors
any new links for parts since summit shut down, looking at exhaust and some sort of CAI for my 1984 Camaro 2.8l Carb, for exhaust i was thinking a dynomax super turbo muffler and a magnaflow high flow cat, any opinions? an
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Re: after market parts for 60* motors
Hello i am new to this forum and i don't own a camaro are firebird but i do own a 86 2.8 in an S10 i would like to say thank you i have gained a lot of resources just now i can tell you that headman also make a set of headers for the 60 degree v6 just thought i would chime in with that bit of info for you guys.
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