I've seen a lot of "don't use fram". Why? I have always used Fram filters and Valvoline oil on three Camaros(78, 81,and 91). No problems yet.

I've got nothing against Fram, especially their new ones... but I've been using the K&N oil filters on my 83

K & N just plain flows better, so why buy an inferior product for other reasons than price. I read an article where fram flowed just as good as the K & N for the first 10 minutes, then it starts to break down and the design is no longer efficient. something like that

Here's the famous oil filter study. Read it and you will never get a Fram again.

http://members.nbci.com/minimopar/oilfilterstudy.html



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86 Camaro Sport
383 Speed-O-Motive Crate Engine, Raptor 700R4 Tranmission, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge G2's, 58mm Accel TB, 3.73 Auburn Pro, SLP Cold Air Induction and Headers, Hooker Cat-back, Serpentine Belt Setup, Dual IROC Fans, Jamex springs, 16" IROC Rims, 36mm/24mm Sway Bars, Global West Steering Brace. Hotchkis Rear LCA's,Panhard Bar and SFC's.
My Camaro Project

Isn't Fram the official NHRA filter?

yea I guess its a good thing those guys change the oil between every round.

And if you think the big boys go down to Pep Boys and buy themselves a case of Fram filters for running their rail that weekend...

their (rap filters!. They are prone to falling apart internally.

I see. What a rip off! Fram charges too much for that junk. I guess I'll just go back to good ol AC delco.

At work (Advance Auto Parts) we have a display comparing the puralator filters to "The other leading brand" AKA Fram. You can tell by looking at them that the Fram is not as high of quality.

John Force is not using the same Fram filters that you buy at K-Mart. They are making nice special ones for him. Fram Blows. Use Mobile 1 or K&N filters if you plan on keeping her for the long haul...

The HP-4 and HP-6 are the Nascar filters, guys. You can buy the HP-4 (chevy) and that is pretty much all I ever use.


The FRAM over-the-counter "regular" filters are not as good at getting the small particles out.

I believe the HP-6 is custom/non-OEM.

Fram filters blow out on my 87Z within five minutes and start leaking from the top seal. I've tried 5 or 6 em, all the same. Must be the high pressure oil pump I guess. Bosch filters run 100% so far. I don't think I'll be buying Fram filters anymore...

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Ray87Z
-Vortec headed 350.
86 IROC w/ a cammed 305 TPI.
Formerly Ray86IROC.
www.inter-scape.com/Ray

I don't use Fram because they aren't replacement GM parts, like AC/Delco is.

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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission
Borg Warner 7.75" 9 Bolt Rear End with 2.77:1 Gears.

Current Mods: LT4 HOT Cam, Comp Cams 1.52:1 Roller Rocker Arms, Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Catco 3" High-Flow Catalytic Converter, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Transgo Shift Kit, Performance Resource Chip, Accel Ignition, K&N Filters, JET TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET: 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)

im doing a oil change tommorow.....
m.. acdelco, here i come. well. less i find K&N supplier

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91 FireBird 305 V-8
Edelbrock Catback, Fourth Gen Console. i have six cupholders. all for starbucks!
ghetto rigged cold air intake,
"My G/f Once Wanted To Break Up Because Of Competition With The Car."
GheTTo Riggers INC.
We Make Mcgyver look Like Crap
God Created The Earth, And Then Turned Up The Bass

I used to use the long AC Delco PF-35L filter until they changed the design and/or manufacturer and it wasn't any better than a regular PF-35 filter. Then I used the Mobil synthetic filter for a couple years until the store I was buying them (K-mart) from stopped carrying them, and they were the only place around here with them. Now I'm using the AC Delco Ultragard PF1792? filter that's long like the PF-35L and has a synthetic element. Look up the truck applications for the regular Duragard number, then use that number with a different prefix in front for the Ultragard number.

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Greg Westphal
'87 IROC 355TPI/A4

Fram HP-4 is the 15 micron Fram oil filter for chevys... 'bout $7.95

On my inline tranny filter I had a fram and it leaked like a mother. I wanted to go with an AC filter but I couldnt find a PF-2 so I went with a Ford FL1A and wham the leaking stopped. Fram does stink big time.

While your talking about oil filters what is the proper weight for oil? I have 173,000 miles on my car.

A.

well I am running 5-50 castrol syntec(full synthetic) in the summer and 5-30 winter. pressure stays constant and no drops...

Personally, I use the System 1 oil filter I got thru Summit a few years ago. Never let me down since, and reusable too! Costs more to get, but I change oil every 3k, and I've gotten every bit of my money out of this and more.

Amber: In our climate, 10W-30 is the best weight.

I have never personally had a problem with Fram. One thing that I look at is my parents 92 GMC Safari van. This thing has 315,000 miles on it and has only had the alternator and waterpump replaced. It has never even had a valve cover off. They have used nothing but....gasp!!! Fram filters and bulk 10w30 quaker state. The tranny (700R4) has had 3 "oil changes" and used fram filters in it every time...the tranny is still good after 315,000 miles. Now you tell me...frams are junk, but I have proof otherwise

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Black 89 IROC...355, Solid Crower Cam, TFS heads.
12.0 @ 120.3mph with a 1.9 60ft...all motor

I ahve had no problems with FRAM.. I prefer AC Delco and use it whenever it is on sale.. Lately I have tried purolator.. It seems okay...

Trying to find a K&N kit for a '91 Formula is impossible,.....any help?



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'91 Formula, (one of 72,000 made)!

KILLS;
78 Corolla, Datsun B210,
Ford Fistiva, VW Beetles,
that Pinto, (finally),

305 7cyl, TPI,
WS6 one tire posi,
rusted cat-back exhaust,
Dryer duct blower,
sub-frame connectors by Coat Hanger,
Pep-boys gas cap, (locking),
custom windshield eching

I have always stayed with A/C Delco filters and NEVER had any problems...Ive heard fram was no good so I never bought them...interesting enough...a few months ago I bought a 91 Chevy Lumina Eurosport for a 2nd car and when i picked it up from the dealer, the oil pressure was always 80 PSI and sometimes dropped down to 60 PSI...I was worried...
I had thoroughly checked out the car before I bought it and it was fine..

So I called them and asked them if they did any work to the car and they said they changed my oil and filters etc...sure enough I look under the hood far down and seen a FRAM orange oil filter there...I did another oil change and went back to A/C Delco and now it never goes that high anymore.
Oil pressure is normal again...car runs great..I was really pissed they used that POS filter on this car.
Can you imagine driving a car and seeing the oil pressure 80 PSI all the damn time?
I knew something was wrong.

Thank God I went back to Delco before it was too late...who knows what wouldve happened if I didnt ay attention to the oil pressure guage.

Anybody use wix filters? I heard they were good.