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I just bought a 92 camaro RS and im startin teh first upgrade. what in everyones opinion is the best sounding system. thx.
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I like my magnaflow. Its not as loud as my flowmaster, especially at Idle, but it has a much lower, deeper, mellower sound. More manly if you ask me. And yeah, above 3k rpm it roars.
if u want your car to sound like a sleeper, id agree with the magnaflow. u can go to www.magnaflow.com and hear some sound clips, they almost make "sport compacts" sound like they have balls
flowmaster is loud all the time. and will grab alot of attention, but loses its sound in the high rpms and it has alot of interior noise which can get annoying, ive heard alot of people say they like the hooker catback too
I agree, the Hooker sounds mellow and tough at idle but not sloppy and anoying like the Flowmaster. Under load the Hooker really wakes up and makes some noise though.
I ran the Hooker kit for about 100 miles on the stock motor, it sounds alot better with the cat removed. I then ran it for about 25 miles with my new 383 and a big cam and shorty headers and it sounded really tough.
I have just got rid of it though for a Mufflex setup with longtube headers.
i go for hooker cat back also. i have an 89 iroc tpi 305... and even with stock manifolds, it sounds loud enough, but not hollow sounding like flowmaster crossflow muffler can have. With headers, it raises the noise some if that's what your after, and still sacrifices no sound qualities..... I'd put a hooker cat back with aero chamber muffler on every f-body I'll ever own!!! although, i have'nt heard a corsa yet in person, but a corsa is alo 600-650 bucks. lol so, go for hooker!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like teh sound clips of the magna, if any flowmaster people could get me sound clips of a flowmaster for compairison thatd be cool (maybe record their car heh).
However, i dotn see for the magnaflow cat-back for a 3rd gen, only 93-up.
Also, is there any good programers for the comp?
Thx.
Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8 IMO Hooka is not aggressive or loud enough, it's just this mild sound. I like Flomaster better because it is the opposite of that.
right on brotha, right on
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You cant beat my set-up, other than the headers dont like that much. But edelbrock headers to a dual cut-outs, to dual hi flow cats to hooker exhaust. The hooker has a nice sound to it, nice and mellow has a bark to it when u give it gas. But with the cut-outs open damn, makes flow-master sound like a **** burner.lol
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Originally posted by camarojoe If your going for max power in the future, the only choice is a 4" Mufflex setup.
If you have a big block and a blower maybe, or for the diesel conversion... A 4" on a 305 would sound like crap.
My vote goes for Hooker because it doesn't make your head hurt after 10 minutes on the highway and you can tell everyone you have a hooker under your car
Originally posted by Inwo If you have a big block and a blower maybe, or for the diesel conversion... A 4" on a 305 would sound like crap.
My vote goes for Hooker because it doesn't make your head hurt after 10 minutes on the highway and you can tell everyone you have a hooker under your car
Maybe you aren't familiar with the 4" Mufflex exhaust. It consists of a 3" DIA Y-Pipe into a single 4" DIA pipe into a 4" muffler that dumps out of a 4" tail pipe. I assume you were thinking of a 4" duel exhaust setup.
BTW, that is the setup I have on my car (with Spintech muffler) and I couldn't be more happy - well worth the $800.
4"=overkill on a 305 single or dual. 3" is sufficient for optimal flow until you're making 500+hp as well. The minimal gain for the 3" vs 4" on a "normal" built small block is negligable at best. For a first mod on a tbi 305 a 3" might even be overkill. 4" on an unmodded 305 will most likely COST power. No point in getting the 4" until you need it as even my 3" system scrapes, ground clearance is at a premium on these cars. I don't see any indication that he has a new engine in the works so that extra SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS would be going straight into the trash can.
I agree that a 4" system is overkill on a stock 305. I didn't pay close enough attention to the original post. In regards to ground clearance, my headers are the lowest thing to the ground on my car. The 4" pipe is tucked up out of the way - not a clearance issue.
Originally posted by 383backinblack how about this setup....
custom is the way to go, and it doesnt sound like everyone elses flowmasters either
Are those warlocks? If they are, they are what I have for my '69. When the caps are off the sound is a beast. I constantly get questions about my exhaust. It sets off car alarms that I'm not even very close to. I love my warlocks on the '69.
Originally posted by 92 Formula Are those warlocks? If they are, they are what I have for my '69. When the caps are off the sound is a beast. I constantly get questions about my exhaust. It sets off car alarms that I'm not even very close to. I love my warlocks on the '69.
indeed they are warlocks, and yes its very loud......i love setting off car alarms half a block away, its pretty funny.
i know what you mean too, i get asked constantly about the exhaust cause it doesn't sound like every other car with flowmasters on it.
with the caps off the sound is absolutely insane....ive driven it like that on the street twice, and both times i was afraid for my life, good thing i didnt get caught
Originally posted by 383backinblack how about this setup....
custom is the way to go, and it doesnt sound like everyone elses flowmasters either
please show more pics?
need to see routing to show exhaust shop
Im not happy with my SLP on my 412 B4C it is the one with both outlets on one side, I like this design just not the restriction.
There is more noise coming from the inside of my hollowed out cats than from the exhaust tips
Originally posted by B4Ctom1 please show more pics?
need to see routing to show exhaust shop
Im not happy with my SLP on my 412 B4C it is the one with both outlets on one side, I like this design just not the restriction.
There is more noise coming from the inside of my hollowed out cats than from the exhaust tips
i'll try to take some pics soon, but basically all it does is come off the header collector, come out around the transmission crossmember, follow the driveshaft tunnel, pass through the lift bar crossmember, swing out, pass under the axle, and then up the mufflers in the back which you can see
Originally posted by Inwo If you have a big block and a blower maybe, or for the diesel conversion... A 4" on a 305 would sound like crap.
My vote goes for Hooker because it doesn't make your head hurt after 10 minutes on the highway and you can tell everyone you have a hooker under your car
Okay, maybe you should re-read my post. For MAX POWER in the FUTURE, I'd suggest the mufflex. I don't think anyone considers a 305 as a source for max power down the road. Mufflex also has a 31/2" system too. And the 4" system with a Mufflex muffler doesn't sound like crap. Have you ever heard a car with one, let a lone a 305?
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Old cars:
91 Z w/383 , all forged bottom end, miniram, TPIS ZZ-X cam, Ported AFR 210's, Pro-built trans, Vig 3200 stall, Hooker LT's, drag susp., 17x9 ROH Snypers, and quite a bit more. 375 rwhp 375 rwtq.
89 Iroc, SuperRam, 219 cam, AFR 190's, sold to the old man, now has 406, runs 11's.
Im betting it would sound just fine on a 305, I do know that it would probably hurt power. Stock powerplants (even mildy modified too) of all sorts are hurt by massive reduction in backpressure. Don't believe me? just drop your exhaust at the track right behind the cats and see what happens on a dyno or at the track, its sad but true. I pesonally like the MAC catback (no mustang jokes please). It sounds similar to a flowmaster but not "tinny" more throaty. The difference is that the MAC flowpath even though it may sound similar to flowmaster, only it actually flows. Something a flowmaster short of a competition series cant do. The JYD runs flowmasters, and runs a second faster on the bottle without them. My 4" mufflex that Im putting on the 1991 Drag - Z has a flowmaster, but you can see right through the sucker if I remember correctly. I do remember running a 300 RW HP stang on the flowmasters then swapping them out right there on the dyno for the MAC ones and seeing HP everyhere in the whole band.
BTW, the sound on a dual exhaust car that has a "X" pipe with MAC mufflers is absolutely incredible. The only thing I have ever heard that was better? "X" pipe with borla's but the MAC's were a close second. MAC stuff is very affordable too.
Originally posted by camarojoe Okay, maybe you should re-read my post. For MAX POWER in the FUTURE, I'd suggest the mufflex. I don't think anyone considers a 305 as a source for max power down the road. Mufflex also has a 31/2" system too. And the 4" system with a Mufflex muffler doesn't sound like crap. Have you ever heard a car with one, let a lone a 305?
Even 3" sound more or less hollow. NO reason to compromise ground clearance if you're not planning on supercharging in the future. Get a cutout if you want loud all the time. 4" simply is NOT practical if you don't absolutely need it. This guy seems like he isn't even planning on getting headers, so why tell him to get a 4" exhaust?
WASTE OF MONEY.
There is no point in arguing this!
$200 vs $800. You could get headers and other mods that actually MAKE power with the money you save. He didn't say anything about putting in a high revving supercharged 427 anytime soon, so a 3" catback is sufficient, perhaps even overkill.
Originally posted by 383backinblack indeed they are warlocks, and yes its very loud......i love setting off car alarms half a block away, its pretty funny.
i know what you mean too, i get asked constantly about the exhaust cause it doesn't sound like every other car with flowmasters on it.
with the caps off the sound is absolutely insane....ive driven it like that on the street twice, and both times i was afraid for my life, good thing i didnt get caught
I've got to give you a big on your set up. It's only natural to do it on a '69, but on a third gen... It looks really good. I keep my '69 uncapped always, but I also have antique tags so the police have thus far always ignored the noise. They are fairly cool here.
Originally posted by 92 Formula I've got to give you a big on your set up. It's only natural to do it on a '69, but on a third gen... It looks really good. I keep my '69 uncapped always, but I also have antique tags so the police have thus far always ignored the noise. They are fairly cool here.
Im verry happy with my magnaflow. It sounds really deep and mellow and sounds mean around 1800-5000RPM and the rest of the exhaust is stock besides a high flow cat. I would highly recomend it. Good luck.
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Just wanted to share that i just purchased and installed this 3" cat back system. It is a system that is very easy to install and looks great (the dual chrome tips are a ++++).
The exhaust note wasn't as deep as I had hoped it would be. It also does not come with a hanger for the passenger side pipe going into the muffler. This is a stock location with the rubber mount in place. I just had to make my own and it is rock solid.
Like I said it is very easy to install and is straight forward. It was much more of a challenge to take out the old exhaust system.
I'm happy with my Spintech muffler. It sounds great. After I drop the new engine in though, I am thinking about going with a 3" cat-back along with my 2055s hookers. But the only thing is, spintech doesn't make a 3" cat-back (and I have to have another spintech). So I've typed to mufflex time and time again asking them if they make a 3" cat-back with a spintech race muffler, but since there tech support absolutely SUCKS, I have yet to get a reply. I know on their website all they show is 3.5" and 4" cat-backs, but that is overkill like said above. So I was just wondering if they would make a 3" cat back. Later.
I guess I gave a direct answer to a vague question, which I seem to do quite often. I am stating what I believe to be the best sysemt while at the same time being the best sounding exhaust system. Price wasn't stated as being an issue. I guess you're replying about what exhaust would be best for the original posters setup. I thought he wanted to know what exhaust system sounded the best. He never said, which exhaust system would be or sound best on his car in the original post. So really the question was misleading.
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Old cars:
91 Z w/383 , all forged bottom end, miniram, TPIS ZZ-X cam, Ported AFR 210's, Pro-built trans, Vig 3200 stall, Hooker LT's, drag susp., 17x9 ROH Snypers, and quite a bit more. 375 rwhp 375 rwtq.
89 Iroc, SuperRam, 219 cam, AFR 190's, sold to the old man, now has 406, runs 11's.
im goin to be replacing my hooker muffler with a spintech pro street muffler. im gettin tired of seein hooker all over my town and a bunch of my friends got it also. i think hooker is becoming as popular as flowmaster.
Good choice. I found an exhaust shop near me that does mandrel bending, so I guess I'll get it all custom made. Screw mufflex, they just lost a customer by not responding to me, regardless if they will make a 3" cat back or not. I think I want to go with spintech's pro shoot out race muffler.
I ordinarily don't reply to a thread that's this long because the original question is usually answered by this time. The reason why I am is for those who have never seen my custom exhaust. It is a true 2-1/2" dual system that follows the stock routing. And because of the routing, ground clearance is not an issue. I use a pair of polished Stainless Works 1969 Z28 chambered mufflers positioned in the stock muffler location, exiting thru chromed 4th gen Z28 tips. For detailed pics, please click on "SC Z!!!" in my sig, then Exhaust at the bottom of the page. For a sound clip, go to:
Originally posted by Willie I ordinarily don't reply to a thread that's this long because the original question is usually answered by this time. The reason why I am is for those who have never seen my custom exhaust. It is a true 2-1/2" dual system that follows the stock routing. And because of the routing, ground clearance is not an issue. I use a pair of polished Stainless Works 1969 Z28 chambered mufflers positioned in the stock muffler location, exiting thru chromed 4th gen Z28 tips. For detailed pics, please click on "SC Z!!!" in my sig, then Exhaust at the bottom of the page. For a sound clip, go to:
After my exhaust started to split apart from the cat back I figured it was time to get a new exhaust. I decide to just put on a new cat and have it straight back after that and it sounds pretty awsome especially after 3000rpms. There was a good horse power gain to. Before I put the new exhaust on it wouldnt cut out but after I put it on it has enough power for the speed limiter to kick in, damn thing.
I recently had a V-Force muffler, new tail pipes, and stainless-steel tips installed on my 1989 Fomula 350. I think it sounds pretty good. I was told, by the exaust guy, that the V-Force mufflers are not as loud as the Flowmasters. Since I don't have a flowmaster to compare sound to, I cannot confirm this. However, I do know that the V-Force mufflers have nice, thick welds.
Hope this helps.