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Old 11-10-2003, 11:26 PM   #1
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New Spohn Torque Arm

We just released a new torque arm. This unit is adjustable like all of our units, but it mounts in the factory location on the transmission into a supplied polyurethane bushing.

Part # 399 - $295.00

Details are here:

http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1475


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What is the advantage of using this over your standard torque arm which relocates the front mounting point?
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Old 11-10-2003, 11:55 PM   #3
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Mufflex LT ypipe clearance, less weight
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Old 11-11-2003, 01:28 AM   #4
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I'd love to have the chrome-moly one, but that's steep....I assume that's 125 over the 295 price listed?
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Old 11-11-2003, 01:41 AM   #5
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That's correct. I bought a chromemoly one. My crossmember ta was about $600 shipped to my door having added several other options also. Price you pay for quality and for a true bolt-on!

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Old 11-11-2003, 10:10 AM   #6
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Can you setup this TA to have an integral Driveshaft Safety Loop? I've seen several guys who have modified their stock TA's to weld on a DSL. Would be neat if this one could have one bolted to it ... or welded to it. The TA and Driveshaft move together when the TA is mounted to the tranny so it should work AOK ... specially since tons of guys are doing it with their stock TAs.

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Mr. Spohn, would it be possible for you to make a bolt-on DS Loop for that new Torque arm? And if so, what would the price be?
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This bolt in loop will work with the torque arm:

http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1312

However, that loop will not clear a Mufflex y-pipe. We thought about putting a loop on this arm, it could be done, just welded right to the top tube of the arm just like we put on our rear loops.

However, my thinking was this. The limit of this arm is the transmission tailshaft and/or transmission torque arm mount. If either one of those lets go and the arm has a loop on it, it's gonna destroy the driveshaft.

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steve, if you torque arm lets go, would the driveshaft even be a concern, i would imagain you would be going for quite the ride if you hit the brakes.
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The torque arm won't let go, this thing is indestructable. However, the tranny tailshaft, tranny mount, and or stock TA mount could. The arm doesn't go down all that far under braking, it won't hit the ground. But under acceleration it'll slam into the floor, if there's a loop on it the shaft will be screwed.

If someone is willing to understand/accept that risk, I'll build one with a loop on it. Just call and ask for it.

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See, that would be a concern that I would have. I have a six-speed AND longtube headers with the mufflex y-pipe. What kind of loop would you recommend for my setup?
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If someone is willing to understand/accept that risk, I'll build one with a loop on it. Just call and ask for it.
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Awesome. That's exactly what I was looking for. What's the extra cost?

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$40.00 per loop (can get front and/or rear)
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See, that would be a concern that I would have. I have a six-speed AND longtube headers with the mufflex y-pipe. What kind of loop would you recommend for my setup?

Your only option is a loop that bolts to the floor pan. I can get you the Lakewood loop designed for the thirdgen that bolts to the floor. I think it's $35.00.

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The torque arm won't let go, this thing is indestructable. However, the tranny tailshaft, tranny mount, and or stock TA mount could
Did the this occur during product testing?

At what level would this occur?
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Did the this occur during product testing?

At what level would this occur?

This happens with the stock torque arm. The dyno shop near us has had at least a half dozen snapped tailshafts on the dyno. I would personally run a transmission mounted torque arm on a 12 second car. Once you hit 11's it's time to get it off the transmission. Of course most cars running faster then 12's have a tranny other then stock because of strength issues, so they can't use a tranny mounted arm anyway. The manual cars are the main victims of it, I haven't seen many automatic cars do it.

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Hey Steve,

I'll probably never take advantage of the strength of CrMo tubing on a car running a 700r4 in the 11s, right? What about weight savings though? Just trying to justify the extra $125.
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The main advantage is double the strength, but it's about 4 lbs. weight savings.

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