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Old 03-26-2009, 02:42 PM   #1
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What do you guys think of these sub frame connector's?


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These look okay....but look like bolt in ones to me (IMO, weld in is much stronger)....try finding a set by UMI performance...I was very very impressed with how well built and excellent quality of UMI's sub-frames!! Here is a link to them.. http://www.umiperformance.com/produc...ategory_id=113

The price on their website is 199 but I found them online directly from umi for cheaper on a sale once. If you can afford these ones I would definetly get the UMI ones....plus start out at their main page and search all the other GREAT stuff they have for your car...I have bought many many things from them...my opinion though of course but I won't buy any other brand due to their engineering and quality. oh plus they have pictures of their products installed so you can see them...which is great also.
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We have site sponsors on TGO who sell SFC's. Be a friend and help a friend, buy from TGO sponsors.

+1 on Weld on, you won't be removing them anyway.
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+1 on Weld on, you won't be removing them anyway.
I didn't know of site sponsors.... Just liked the ones I had so much.
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Bolt-on SFCs can be welded on!!!

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Thanks for the responses guys. I was just thinking that it might be easier to bolt them up and then weld them in instead of holding them in place with a friend. I looked at other companies (spohn and umi) to and noticed they have the lateral support bars. But I am trying to budget my money in case anything breaks or goes wrong on my car. And everyone on thirdgen says the first thing to do is sub frame connectors. So now that I have saved up some cash sfc's are in my reach. My skills are limited so I'm leaning towards bolt in and then having my brother weld them.

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Re: sub frame connectors

Those look like the ones you have to cut the floor boards?!?! UMIs are stepped on the pass. side, these are straight. hmm maybe im going crazy i cant remember for sure.
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Don't forget to make sure you're alignment is ok before you get those on.
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Re: sub frame connectors

Is Spohn still a sponsor here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-...spagenameZWDVW

I have those... they also have the step up... They tuck up nicely under my ride, I've seen some that are very visible on cars... If you have GFX, no problems, but on Formulas and such, you won't want them hanging down, eye sore...

Can't be seen when standing next to it..


But sitting on the floor, barely...





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Re: sub frame connectors

I have a question. What are the best subframe connectors that you can bolt on?Before I actually go would have been welded on, I want to be able to pull them on first. I just completely redid my interior including power leather seats, and I just don't want to have to take him out right now.

Can someone recommend the best on connectors?
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Seats don't have to come out, just door sill and lift up the carpet... you don't want a fire...
The problem with the bolt on is that they biggen to wiggle / loosen & enlarge the holes they are bolted into and become less effective...

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Re: sub frame connectors

I was considering making my own set, do these help a lot with handiling?

i mainly don't want my uni-body to twist, but taking a curve one day is a goal of mine.
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Yes, with all aspects of twisting and better handling... My mechanic even mentioned how the car handles better and has better traction with all the suspension upgrades... Every bit helps...

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hey thanks for all the replies. luvofjah your car looks awesome!!
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hey tony if you have dyno don weld them on the carpet doesnt need to be taken out
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Re: sub frame connectors

Looks like those connectors are for a tube chasis car. I mistakenly bought some similar to those and they wouldn't work on a street car...needed to have a "formed rear". Definately stick with sphon or umi on this one. Also, bolt ons can be welded later.
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After reading these replies I am not going to get them. They do look straight meaning cutting the floor has to be done. Not worth buying them and being unsatisfied.
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Just buy the UMIs already, easy install and fit awesome.
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okay I get the message hahaha i think you guys are going to beat me up but from what i was reading I went ahead and bout the jegster frame ties..watch me get banned for not getting the UMI's...But I did go to TDS and bought everything you can get to repair my door from Lon. So I have supported one sponsor so far. Alright start the bashing...
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You wont get any bashing from me. I'm sure all SFCs have very similar results on the car. Just be sure to weld them in.
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If you get a good deal you get a good deal, no reason to hurt your budget if you don't have to.

i'm sure if you weld em in you will be sattisfied with any sfc's.
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Yes I will definitely have them welded in right when I get them on my car. I can't wait to feel the differance. My brother got Sphon so I can see how his feel compared to mine and maybe I will make a comparison chart here.
Thanks for pushing me to get them though.

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hey tony if you have dyno don weld them on the carpet doesnt need to be taken out
thanks purple - i will renenber that.
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I have Alston bolt in ones on my 86 IROC. I had them welded in without bolting them in first. They are very well designed, you don't have to do any modifications to anything and they don't hang down to much.
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I have Alston bolt in ones on my 86 IROC. I had them welded in without bolting them in first. They are very well designed, you don't have to do any modifications to anything and they don't hang down to much.
Highly recommend them.
i wanted to see about alston and here is one of the sites i got
http://www.f-bodyhideout.com/forums/...ad.php?t=19455 i mean this guy is pissed.
and i got this guy too http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showth...light=subframe and i think he wants to have sex with the engineer who designed them he loves them so much.
don't know what to think now.
and at http://www.dougherbert.com/chassisfr...dd472ff1844a5b you can see the prices. 219 for weldin and 282.00 for bolt in.

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I wonder how good this one is. Pricey but curious
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SW is said to have bad mounting points for their tubes to the plates, where as alston SFC's have a better way of mounting their tubular bar to a flat point. Search SW sfc's, there are pictures out there.

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i wanted to see about alston and here is one of the sites i got
http://www.f-bodyhideout.com/forums/...ad.php?t=19455 i mean this guy is pissed.
If you read his post on page 2..he's much happier. he sounds like he expected them to install themselves...
Mine went in with no problem. the pockets were at the right angle, no interference with anything. having said that..I wouldn't want to try and drill holes in the sub frame for them though..That would be a bitch of a job..
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don't know what to think now.
and at http://www.dougherbert.com/chassisfr...dd472ff1844a5b you can see the prices. 219 for weldin and 282.00 for bolt in.
I bought mine right from Alston's because they are closer to me then Lon is.
Lon's customer service is excellent. I bought his door hinge repair kit and I was half expecting him to arrive at my house and install them for me.
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no one likes spohn sfcs??
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when I bought mine about 3 years ago..spohn's were hard to get..he was selling them as fast as he was making them.

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I'm sure you can't go wrong from any of the ones mentioned, unless you are heavily considering weight or strength for racing and even then all the ones mentioned are probably good for that too. I'm not a racer so I couldn't elaborate on that, but I have the TDS ones installed now and my god what a difference.

Pick one to match your budget, and go for it.
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If you read his post on page 2..he's much happier. he sounds like he expected them to install themselves...
Mine went in with no problem. the pockets were at the right angle, no interference with anything. having said that..I wouldn't want to try and drill holes in the sub frame for them though..That would be a bitch of a job..

I bought mine right from Alston's because they are closer to me then Lon is.
Lon's customer service is excellent. I bought his door hinge repair kit and I was half expecting him to arrive at my house and install them for me.
look i gave u a pro and a con and then a place to buy.
if you dont like what he thinks - talk to him not me. im not his mother and i dont remember adopting him - so he, like you, is on his own. he is entitled to his opinion.
its called giving people a choice that is why i gave one of each.
and i dont think he was unreasonable in expecting them to bolt up right from the get go. what it did show is that his car was sagging a little and she probable should have put it up on 4 jacks to let it settle back in the original position and maybe it would have been easier.
or, IT COULD HAVE BEEN POOR WORKMANSHIP!
but i did not make that decision for anyone, i just posted it.
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SW is said to have bad mounting points for their tubes to the plates, where as alston SFC's have a better way of mounting their tubular bar to a flat point. Search SW sfc's, there are pictures out there.
thanks for the head up H8.
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thanks for the head up H8.
Found it for you.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/at...e-mvc-659l.jpg

Here is the full thread, scroll half way down on page 1 for this picture and what people are commenting on them.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/su...-ultimate.html (Sub Frame Connectors. This is the ultimate answer.)
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I just had UMI's welded in for about $400 and I love them. They fit nicely and the car rides SOOOOO much better.
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look i gave u a pro and a con and then a place to buy.
if you dont like what he thinks - talk to him not me. im not his mother and i dont remember adopting him - so he, like you, is on his own. he is entitled to his opinion.
its called giving people a choice that is why i gave one of each.
and i dont think he was unreasonable in expecting them to bolt up right from the get go. what it did show is that his car was sagging a little and she probable should have put it up on 4 jacks to let it settle back in the original position and maybe it would have been easier.
or, IT COULD HAVE BEEN POOR WORKMANSHIP!
but i did not make that decision for anyone, i just posted it.
Chill out man..I wasn't arguing with you..
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If you have to go bolt on, go w/Jegs. It is a nice heavy piece, affordable and fits perfectly. Once they are in you can always weld them...I did....
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I just had UMI's welded in for about $400 and I love them. They fit nicely and the car rides SOOOOO much better.
Is that SFC set and install or just the cost of the install? I hope its both, that seems like a lot.
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No kidding! Mine cost me $205... 200 shipped for SFC, 5 for wire. (and my time lol)
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Is that SFC set and install or just the cost of the install? I hope its both, that seems like a lot.
It was for both......I'm not that crazy!
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does the sfc have to be welded to the bottom of the floor pans or just the frame supports
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does the sfc have to be welded to the bottom of the floor pans or just the frame supports
Depends on the brand. Alston's, no welds on the floorpan. I've seen some people with Spohn's that some did, some didn't.
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If you can, it will help.
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I hear people also double up on sub frame connectors? Whats the deal with that?
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gives better strength if you put on on the inside like altons sfc together with something like what umi got

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Actually thats Altons (run inside or from frame end to frame begin) with the spohn, umi, global west, bmr etc. SFC set on the outside.

Alston inside
Others outside
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Actually thats Altons (run inside or from frame end to frame begin) with the spohn, umi, global west, bmr etc. SFC set on the outside.

Alston inside
Others outside
thanks for correction, i remember top down solution sold the ones that are on the inside, messed up the name tho.
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What do you guys think of these sub frame connector's?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...ayphotohosting
Well I have a set they fit fine. I bolted them in then I welded them.
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Re: sub frame connectors

Well I finally bolted the Jegster sub frame connectors in, and got them welded in the front, back, and on the rocker. What a difference!! I can tell why everyone always says make this #1 on the mods list. My car stays on the ground so much better, less noises and twisting, my t-tops don't creak when going around a turn, I can hammer the gas out of turns with confidence. A+++ For Sub frame connectors.

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