bought my dad a professional products vortec crosswind intake (carb, vortec bolt pattern) for christmas. as well as there vortec high performance intake gaskets. we've both looked at the intake since then and it didnt seem all that bad besides some bad finishes on the surface the ports didnt look that bad etc, (intake comes in sealed plastic bag that isnt perfectly see through) Now that i have no idea where the receipt is i decided to look at the intake, i took the vortec gaskets out and placed them over the intake ports and WTFFFF! the intakes almost a 1/4" off. I kno this bc my dad also has the modified vortec heads from scoggin dickey. the gaskets fit the heads perfectly but when i hold them up to the intake aligning the bolt holes the intake ports are off by 1/4"!!! Further looking at intake i saw some pretty bad casting flaws in the inside below the carb attachment. bad Pitting etc. not to mention the outside of the intake has wat looks like to be huge grinding marks(like they tried to clean something off the surface that was about 2" in DIA). i just dont understand how the ports could be that far off, i bolted the intake to the head and the ports really are a 1/4" off. i took some pics. I have used there products before, i have there 58mm TB on my HSR (great peice) and ive used 2 of there balancers (both are nice) i guess they just suck on intakes. i will never buy there intakes again. pics. pic 1 is how far off the ports are when the bolt holes are aligned (dnt mind the etch i made) pic 2 is how far off the bolt holes are when the intake ports are aligned pic 3 is the pitting below the carb

i have the hurrican intake. mine is great. My ports were a little shorter like yours but i matched/ported them to my heads anyway. I ran this intake a couple times with no problems. I have yet to see the crosswind though.

the ports arent exactly shorter... but they were off by that much... which means now i have a 1/4" lip on the other side that protrudes into the intake runner which means now theres a 1/4" wall to distrupt airflow.

i spent and hour and port matched this as well but theres nothing i can do about the wall on the opposite side

I had the same problem. It was a hunk of ****.

Wow, maybe they had a batch of core shifted manifolds ran. That sucks man. Good luck.

You could weld up or easier epoxy the other side to fill in the open area. Sorry you're having such bad luck with that intake. I never buy chinese stuff, and certainly not proform and this is why.

Yep, quality parts from China, don't you love it. Not on my ride.

lol

Yeah close personal friend of mine works for Pro Products. Made in China says it all.

All of the airflow is at the top of the runner, bot the bottom. It looks from the picture that the runner is shorter on the bottom, which wouldn't matter because their is no airflow there.

-- Joe

yea but still i dnt like seeing the ports shifted that much!

i dnt put chinese stuff on my car either i went with the HSR which is niceeee
i do however have the professional products 58mmTB and there 8" powerforce balancer on my 383 and they are nice peices... so stick american with intakes at least lol

ok guys heres an update, ive been in contact with Galen at professional products, he is the RMA manager at professional products. he too was concerned about the ports being shifted on the intake and explained that he would take care of this for me, for no charge, and would have a new part out on the way.

without any issues Galen replaced the intake with a correct intake with correct matched ports for no charge and no issues (except this beautiful polish finish that it didnt have before ). I have to commend Galen and professional products for the excellent customer service and return policy on defective products. It was a no hassle return with great care and Im thankful for Galen for his quick no nonsense return. I can see how i would (and) have this problem with other companies... cough cough comp cams cough!

professional products=GREAT customer service!! and since i have a few of there products and all of them are great quality im sure it was just a bad batch of intakes. I will be buying from them again

heres some pics of the new intake!

Hopefully I dont steal your thread with this but after checking out my professional products hurricane I got the saying in my head you get what you pay for. My ports werent quite as bad as yours but maybe half so I port matched them to the heads and gasket. The thing I didnt like was the runners came so far up into the plenum area. So this is what I did to fix it and I think it came out very nice.

I'm glad they stand behind what you already bought, I still won't be buying ANYTHING for my car made in China, it's people like you trying to save a few dollars on parts that is killing the American hot rod industry, before long if this keeps up you won't have a choice, EVERYTHING will be made in China!!!!

Do you realize that most parts you buy for your car come from China, Mexico, and other countries. Even parts from the dealer come from other countires. Do you know if the American made products get their materials from the US?? Nobody knows and thier not gonna say any different.

Good to hear that they stood behind the intake being bad. I have a hurricane intake that I need to check to see how it is.

I tend to try to buy everything american, the onlything not name brand and not American made on my car is the TB, and balancer. EVERyTHING is american made. but my dad was the one who didnt want to pay the extra 100$ for the edelbrock. that was kinda a harsh comment since for one you dont know about anything on the engine or wat was bought for my car.

But as chevymec stated almost everything u buy is already from china/japan. Made in the USA can be printed on the box but that doesnt mean the materials are from USA. example.... I bought 16 NEW speed pro federal mogul roller lifters for my comp cams XFI 280 cam, less than 300 miles on the engine and I snapped 2 rocker studs, one lifter blew its insides all over my lifter valley and scored a lobe my brand new 260$ cam. not to mention i have to pull the engine now and replace the cam. point being the box says made in USA but when i called about the lifters they have a 30% failure rate bc they are now assembled/insides are made in india! soo dont believe everything they tell u. Most of if not almost all of the raw materials, steel, aluminum etc all come from china/japan foundries and they own most of the ones here. as stated most of the GM stuff comes from mexico etc. buying a edelbrock intake that has been machined from chinese aluminum kinda defeats the purpose eh? yet they would save money buy using cheaper aluminum and still charge u the same TOP price by saying they are USA made bc they mold them here.

Overall the intake is a good piece and the fact that professional products exchanged it for no fee and it was like over a yr after purchase and i have already done some work to it, is a feat in itself, try to get a american made company to do that! HA!

NEWDUCK... yea thats gona happen on any intake, my holley stealth ram even had to be port matched alittle esp for my felpro 1206s . that did come out pretty good tho. ive seen some dyno tests with the professional intakes and they seem to perform as good as the edelbrocks.

you guys should start trying to at least search for an american company to buy your parts from before buying. edelbrock would have been a better choice of intake. might be more expensive, but i bet your ports would have matched up, and you wouldnt have been supporting china so directly.

they do this because its a way of life for those guys. they deal junk, therefore its not uncommon to get a phone call several times a day with unsatisfied customers. it is worth it for them to just ship out another part to try to satisfy the customer. they dont have squat in the parts, so its not a big deal.

FWIW its worth, I'll comment on the whole materials and parts supply aspect.

If any of you think Alcoa, an American company, mines any of its aluminum ore in the US, you are dead wrong. Alcoa mines the ore in Australia, ships it to Indonesia for final seperation & distribution (ie cleaning off any excess dirt and deciding where it should go), and then finally ships it to the states in New Zealand cargo ships so that it can finally be loaded on Canadian rail cars and smelted at a US smelter in Indiana.

We are no longer a one nation global supplier, we are a one nation global consumer in a global economy.

If you want to be absolutely sure of the whole "Buy American" thing, buy Snap On tools. But then again, I'm sure even you die hard "Buy American" people won't pay $300 for a wrench when you can go to Sears and get a Craftsman wrench for $50.

Craftsman wrenches are made in Spingfield, Massachusetts "which are made in America"

Wasn't saying they weren't. But Snap On was the one that jumped to mind when I was writing that, and I have seen more than a few Craftsman tools stamped with Made in China.

Craftsman's new "dogbone" wrench says made in china on the side and I don't think it's guaranteed forever.

lol i dont know this got to made in america vs made in china but lets look at the fact in hopes this will end it. Any country is capable of building quality and crap reputation is whats really important. However you also have to keep in mind how important is it? I mean snap on tools may be a must for a real mechanic but a average DIYer may get by just fine with a $10 wrench set from autozone. Even beyond cars does it really matter where a alarm clock is made? No because its not important enough to care and its cheap enough to just replace if it breaks. Then theres things like timing belts where if it fails it can destroy a motor thats a good place to not get cheap. Now with car parts you just have to ask how important is a part really and what is the reputation of the company your buying from not where its made per say.

Given a reasonable choice, I'll buy American whenever it's possible..... That includes Snap-on Tools, Edelbrock intakes, etc..... but I also have to admit very few electronics around here, this 'puter included, that is American made.... but I keep trying.... China doesn't need my money, this country does----

wow made in china... that should say it all... I shelled out the extra few bucks for an eldebrock made right here in the good old USA

Yeah I do know where GM gets part's made, that's why when I went and ordered some new front parking lamp's for my car at the local GM dealer and they gave me 1 in a old dusty bag that said Made in USA and 1 in a new shiny bag that said Made in China I told them they could keep the China one!!! And as for the intake that is something you have a choice over also, it's up to us Americans take this country back from the Chinese.

this thread has gotten way off topic. everything on my car is USA made except the TB and balancer. otherwise EVERYTHING is USA. My dad wanted a cheap intake for his bday and this is what he pointed out, i did some reasearch and they perform reasonably well for a low HP 355 that hes building so no big deal. if anyone wants to bicker about USA and chinese made parts start another thread. and this country is the way it is bc of its ppl, who want to make the most profit so they find someone to do it cheap and then sell it, in this case china. if americans wherent so set on making as much money off a product that can be made in china for 10cents and then sell it here for 30$ then we wouldnt be in this situation. But thats easy for us bc we can make money of something and not have to pay as much out. so its our fault.

Im happy with the customer service with professonal products and i doubt u can find that type of service with most american companies.

So are they going to send you a new intake then?

Just gotta say - I have a Professional Products LS1 Throttle Body and LS1 Crank Pulley and both work great. For the price, you can't beat 'em.

the new intake was already shipped and i have it. read post #12... they even upgraded it to a polished piece. the original was satin.

exactly eyecandy... i have there TB and balancer and bolth are great. and the TB cost like 200$ vs the 400$ holley or BBK.