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Old 09-12-2009, 07:37 PM   #1
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DONT BY PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS INTAKES!

bought my dad a professional products vortec crosswind intake (carb, vortec bolt pattern) for christmas. as well as there vortec high performance intake gaskets. we've both looked at the intake since then and it didnt seem all that bad besides some bad finishes on the surface the ports didnt look that bad etc, (intake comes in sealed plastic bag that isnt perfectly see through)

Now that i have no idea where the receipt is i decided to look at the intake, i took the vortec gaskets out and placed them over the intake ports and WTFFFF! the intakes almost a 1/4" off. I kno this bc my dad also has the modified vortec heads from scoggin dickey. the gaskets fit the heads perfectly but when i hold them up to the intake aligning the bolt holes the intake ports are off by 1/4"!!! Further looking at intake i saw some pretty bad casting flaws in the inside below the carb attachment. bad Pitting etc. not to mention the outside of the intake has wat looks like to be huge grinding marks(like they tried to clean something off the surface that was about 2" in DIA).

i just dont understand how the ports could be that far off, i bolted the intake to the head and the ports really are a 1/4" off. i took some pics. I have used there products before, i have there 58mm TB on my HSR (great peice) and ive used 2 of there balancers (both are nice) i guess they just suck on intakes. i will never buy there intakes again.

pics.
pic 1 is how far off the ports are when the bolt holes are aligned (dnt mind the etch i made)

pic 2 is how far off the bolt holes are when the intake ports are aligned

pic 3 is the pitting below the carb
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30lb SVO injectors, patriot 195cc aluminum heads port matched to felpro 1206
XFI280 comp cam, 230/236, .571/.569
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handmade aluminum RAM AIR
Headman LTs, true dual 3" with 3" xpipe
700r4, built by me, can handle 700hp, beast sunshell, billet servos, transgo shift kit, yadda yadda
march pullies, smog deleted, AC/heat removed
160 thermostat, 166 on fan switch
8pt CEE roll bar, with swing out door bars, hand made thru floor SFC, Jegster tunnel mount tubular TQ arm, Jegster drive shaft safety loop
UMI LCA relocation brackets, UMI adjustable panhard rod, hand made tubular LCA's,TDS wonderbar, KYB struts and shocks, cut moogs 5664/5665, moog suspension tierods etc
SSBC force 10 front calliper upgrade kit, slotted and drilled rotors, stainless braided lines all over car, rebuilt master, SSBC proportioning valve, rebuilt booster, ford 8.8 11.5" rear disks
FORD 8.8, rear disks, 3.55 gears, rebuilt carbon fiber clutch trac lock(posi) with f150 preload spring, 28spline axles, ARP cap studs and moser aluminum support girdle.
SLP 17x8's fronts wrapped in Nitto 555 ZR rubber
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:54 PM   #2
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Re: DONT BY PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS INTAKES!

i have the hurrican intake. mine is great. My ports were a little shorter like yours but i matched/ported them to my heads anyway. I ran this intake a couple times with no problems. I have yet to see the crosswind though.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:17 PM   #3
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Re: DONT BY PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS INTAKES!

the ports arent exactly shorter... but they were off by that much... which means now i have a 1/4" lip on the other side that protrudes into the intake runner which means now theres a 1/4" wall to distrupt airflow.

i spent and hour and port matched this as well but theres nothing i can do about the wall on the opposite side
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Old 09-12-2009, 10:03 PM   #4
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Re: DONT BY PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS INTAKES!

I had the same problem. It was a hunk of ****.
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:50 PM   #5
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Re: DONT BY PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS INTAKES!

Wow, maybe they had a batch of core shifted manifolds ran. That sucks man. Good luck.
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:10 PM   #6
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Re: DONT BY PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS INTAKES!

You could weld up or easier epoxy the other side to fill in the open area. Sorry you're having such bad luck with that intake. I never buy chinese stuff, and certainly not proform and this is why.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:18 PM   #7
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Re: DONT BY PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS INTAKES!

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You could weld up or easier epoxy the other side to fill in the open area. Sorry you're having such bad luck with that intake. I never buy chinese stuff, and certainly not proform and this is why.
Yep, quality parts from China, don't you love it. Not on my ride.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:36 PM   #8
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Yep, quality parts from China, don't you love it. Not on my ride.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:44 PM   #9
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Re: DONT BY PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS INTAKES!

Yeah close personal friend of mine works for Pro Products. Made in China says it all.
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All of the airflow is at the top of the runner, bot the bottom. It looks from the picture that the runner is shorter on the bottom, which wouldn't matter because their is no airflow there.

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Old 10-18-2009, 07:34 PM   #11
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Re: DONT BY PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTS INTAKES!

yea but still i dnt like seeing the ports shifted that much!

i dnt put chinese stuff on my car either i went with the HSR which is niceeee
i do however have the professional products 58mmTB and there 8" powerforce balancer on my 383 and they are nice peices... so stick american with intakes at least lol
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SCAT 9000 cast crank, SCAT 4340 forged rods/ARP rod bolts, SRP forged pistons/JE rings, ported HSR, HSR port matched to felpro1206, 58mm TB, grannelli MAF
30lb SVO injectors, patriot 195cc aluminum heads port matched to felpro 1206
XFI280 comp cam, 230/236, .571/.569
1.6 aluminum full roller rockers
handmade aluminum RAM AIR
Headman LTs, true dual 3" with 3" xpipe
700r4, built by me, can handle 700hp, beast sunshell, billet servos, transgo shift kit, yadda yadda
march pullies, smog deleted, AC/heat removed
160 thermostat, 166 on fan switch
8pt CEE roll bar, with swing out door bars, hand made thru floor SFC, Jegster tunnel mount tubular TQ arm, Jegster drive shaft safety loop
UMI LCA relocation brackets, UMI adjustable panhard rod, hand made tubular LCA's,TDS wonderbar, KYB struts and shocks, cut moogs 5664/5665, moog suspension tierods etc
SSBC force 10 front calliper upgrade kit, slotted and drilled rotors, stainless braided lines all over car, rebuilt master, SSBC proportioning valve, rebuilt booster, ford 8.8 11.5" rear disks
FORD 8.8, rear disks, 3.55 gears, rebuilt carbon fiber clutch trac lock(posi) with f150 preload spring, 28spline axles, ARP cap studs and moser aluminum support girdle.
SLP 17x8's fronts wrapped in Nitto 555 ZR rubber
rears will be 17x10.5 ford rims with 315's
NO2 150shot comin soonnnn!! or dual rear mounted turbos
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