Just put a set of hedman shorty headers and the y-pipe to match it. I ended up payin about $290 for both plus tax. They were actually really good quality, can't really complain about anything except the lack of an O2 sensor, but I bought one from jegs and welded it in myself. I bought some header paint from Jegs but all they had was flat black so I bought some Krylon stove paint from sears and that worked ten times better. What I didnt think about was the fact that the coating they put on the headers wasn't heat paint so after I put the headers on and heated them up, the paint started fallin off, so im in the process of touching them up.

i would seriously think about doing something with those brake lines.
headers + dot 3 brake fluid = boiled fluid = no brakes

Yeah I already did, I bent them back a little more and now they get a little warm but thats about it

im assuming thats after the pic? just for added ins i would re route the line by making a new line. brakes are one of those things ya dont chance at all but you know this.

some of that shield used on spark plug wires might be another solution. hafta re bleed the lines after ya slip it on but it would be worth it.

Yeah lol. I'll look into it, my dads got some extra line laying around and I gotta put a new caliper on the driver side this weekend so I mine as well go ahead while I'm at it.

how much effort did you exert to install them, is it a ball and socket connection at the base of the headerto Y pipe connection, and do you know the headman part #?

i have the hooker 2055s on my 89 formula and they went in like a charm, have a ball and socket connection at the header to Y pipe connection which means no gaskets in this area.
the 2055s are emissions headers and i want non emissions verson for my 83 T/A.

Well actually the easiest part was installing them, the hard part was getting the old manifolds off and removing the whole smog pump assembly. The headers themselves were relatively easier than I thought they would be to install. The only thing that was a bug was tryin to make sure the headers werent touching anything, but I just bent everything out of the way and they went in just fine. That and I had to get a new set of wires cuz the accel wires that it came with the car were the straight boots and they would have been burnt to pieces. The y-pipe was the slip on type, but its basically a ball and socket too, I didnt have to use a gasket. The headers were #68470 and the y-pipe was #17470.

Yeah, I almost went with those but I really didn't feel like messin with the whole emissions thing anymore, but they dont snoop around here either. This is the first set of headers Ive bought but their good quality and at a half way decent price. If your trying to buy a y-pipe that fits right on these are the cheapest around. Everything else you have to custom make you own y-pipe.

FYI, if you do end up buying these, make sure to take the coating they come with off b4 you paint them or the paint falls right off, which is a pain to see all your work burn away, but hey you gotta learn somehow right?

if i get a set there geting coated like my 2055s. last time ACS did mine when they were a sponsor here and they did "ok" but jet hot does better. i was early on the list of people getting theirs done by ACS and i got lucky as some of the later guys had theirs drop shipped to ACS and they somehow "disappeared". ACS was a bad deal. it took forever for some of the guys that had sent theirs in to get them bck.

the part numbers you listed for the headers, is that from Jegs or who?

Yeah those parts numbers are from jegs

good deal, thanx much.

I dont know what happened to my hedman headers for my Monte Carlo, but I swear I had to just about build the dang things myself. Nothing matched up right. Drills, cut off wheels, and a high speed grinders were necessary for installation.

However this is the last in a long list of posts which have convinced me that maybe I should give hedman another shot. I am going to be buying a set of headers soon and it was either hedman or hooker, and I wasnt crazy about the hookers because of a 2 piece primary slip joint.

First set of shorty Hedmans i had were an excellent fit, however the ceramic Hedmans i've got on now are a terrible fit, really disappointed with them.