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Hi,
I just bought a 305 that came out of a 1985 El Camino. The guy I got it from said the guy he got it from had most of the emissions stuff gone/disconnected. Also, the engine came with a Edelbrock Performer Intake. I was wondering, if I stick with the Rochester carb, will this pass smog visual? Do I have to have the CARB sticker? I live in the much lameness state of California.
Hi,
I just bought a 305 that came out of a 1985 El Camino. The guy I got it from said the guy he got it from had most of the emissions stuff gone/disconnected. Also, the engine came with a Edelbrock Performer Intake. I was wondering, if I stick with the Rochester carb, will this pass smog visual? Do I have to have the CARB sticker? I live in the much lameness state of California.
Thanks guys!
My 2004 Sunfire had an aftermarket intake on it when I brought it into this state. Polished aluminum, it was quite obvious and had no CARB certification. When I had the car smogged and inspected by the DMV nobody made any mention of it.
I can't see anyone giving you any trouble as long as it passes emissions requirements. But who knows, you could always run into someone who's in a bad mood that day.
My 2004 Sunfire had an aftermarket intake on it when I brought it into this state. Polished aluminum, it was quite obvious and had no CARB certification. When I had the car smogged and inspected by the DMV nobody made any mention of it.
I can't see anyone giving you any trouble as long as it passes emissions requirements. But who knows, you could always run into someone who's in a bad mood that day.
I think its different if you bring in a car thats from out of state, rather than a car thats registered in state.
The car also came with what I believe is a Rochester Quadrajet Stage 2 carb. I think I read somewhere online this carb is illegal. If true then why?
I think its different if you bring in a car thats from out of state, rather than a car thats registered in state.
I don't understand how you came to this conclusion.
Cars registered in California that came from out of state do not have to follow the same rules as cars from in state? I can tell you almost the exact opposite is true. Cars 6-years old and newer do not require any smog testing, unless they are brought in from out of state.
Technically, all aftermarket modifications to the engine's fuel, intake, or exhaust that have the possibility of changing it's emissions output are illegal according to CARB, unless otherwise approved. That includes: intakes, carburators, fuel pressure regulators, turbos, headers, high flow catalytic converters. Cat-back exhaust systems are ok, but must adhere to other restrictions governing noise levels.
Not that anybody enforces those laws any more than any other in this state.
Unless you can find a CARB sticker, I believe so. (for street use)
But again, I don't think anyone will give you any trouble unless you don't pass emissions.
Well failing emissions just might happen. I just found out the engine has been bored over. I just also found out, there is an aftermarket timing chain (no big deal) but im guessing since whoever did all the work might have put a cam in it. Also, the carb that came with the camaro is different than the stage 2 as far as hookups. There are a couple things (not sure what) that plug in to the stock quadrajet. But the Stage 2 doesnt have those hookups. What are they?
Well, just because the engine has been modified doesn't mean it won't pass emissions.
I'm not familiar enough with the parts you mentioned to say what is different about them.
I just wish it wasnt such a big deal. Im not adding some huge performance part. Its a simple replacement carb that performs slightly better. Jeez I hate this state.
It's really going to depend which Edelbrock Performer it has on there, there was one that has a spot for the egr valve and there was one without. Obviously if you want to pass emission you are going to need the one with it. As far as the carb goes, these cars came stock with the Rochester. So I believe you should be fine there.
Few weeks late here, but here is some info. Many times, people get confused with the regulations in this stupid backwards state. I suspect the BAR and DMV want it that way for a reason.
Anyway, if you have the Performer intake (not the air gap or RPM) and it has an EGR (because your car originally came with one) its considered a stock replacement part. From Edelcrock.com (and its been this way since at least back to 1991)
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#3701 is stock replacement/street legal part for 305, 350 and 400 V8s with OEM 4-bbl.
3701 is the Performer manifold with EGR. It does NOT need a CARB EO number to be legal, that was already determined a long time ago and its because its considered stock replacement. Dont ask me why or how, thats just how it is.
As far as bringing another car into this state, it has to have all the original emissions equipment intact and pass the visual and smog test if they do that where you are in Cali which is almost all of Cali.
I cant help you on the carb, I dont know what it is you have on there now. "Stage 2" doesnt mean anything to me, and I'm not sure what hookups it doesnt have. That may be an issue, if anyone notices. You will need the stock aircleaner assembly and lid though, that alone might keep the prying eyes away from a slightly non-compliant part.