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Old 05-05-2010, 01:09 PM
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Steering box options and questions

I'm not sure if this belong in the aftermarket product review section but I figure as this got no input in the Suspension section I'd try here. I know this question comes up everyone once in a while, but I have never seen any definitive answers (if there are even any):

So in this months issue of Popular Hot Rodding, they ran a special section on steering improvements. After the section on rack and pinion units, they covered steering boxes, stating that with new upgraded units you can get 90% of the improvement of a rack and pinion unit by incorporating a rack and pinion type spool gear. Not sure what that is. They listed several companies that sell new or rebuilt units, and I was wondering what you guys thought were the best options, especially if anyone has tried these units. In particular, does a rebuilt fast ratio box from a third gen compare well with a new unit? I believe mine is worn out and I plan on replacing it soonish. Here are the options PHR recommends and i put in others I know of:

http://www.detroitspeed.com/productp..._gear_prod.htm

$500, new, they say near rack and pinion performance. No one else says that, and DSE is an excellent company.

http://www.powersteering.com/

$225 for a rebuild on a 12.5:1 unit. I guess this the best performance you can get out of our boxes?

http://www.classicindustries.com/con...rchCatalogId=3

$550, why is this one so expensive? Thoughts?

And the two I know of:

http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cf...rod/prd330.htm

$600, like DSE a rack and pinion comparable device

And I know ARG makes a box but I cannot find a link for the correct application.
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I think its AGR, maybe thats why you could'nt find link.
There is also Lee Manufacturing out here in cali.At least thats where he was located last time i checked.
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Re: Steering box options and questions

Here's the AGR box, its a 12:1 box for $350:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AGR-225153/

Anyone on this forum got any input on steering parts?
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how about a 16:1 nascar power box (used like new) for under $160
new it sells for over $900

i posted it for 1 hr. then took the link down.. cant give out all my goodie sites

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Re: Steering box options and questions

16:1 doesn't not sound like fun on the street.

I just had my box rebuilt by Lee. I'll let you know how it is in a few weeks.
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how about a 16:1 nascar power box (used like new) for under $160
new it sells for over $900

i posted it for 1 hr. then took the link down.. cant give out all my goodie sites
You could get a 16:1 out of a Astro van, used from the wreckers for $40. I'm leaning towards the AGR box myself!
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would the AGR unit be a direct replacement with no modifications?
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I believe there have been some bad reviews of the AGR boxes do a search online.
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You could get a 16:1 out of a Astro van, used from the wreckers for $40. I'm leaning towards the AGR box myself!
but would it be made by a top maker of ricky race parts and have trick billet parts on it..no i dont think so
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but would it be made by a top maker of ricky race parts and have trick billet parts on it..no i dont think so
The problem with 16:1 is that it would take alot more turns of the steering wheels to make the front wheels turn the same amount. It's slower, making city driving more tedious (actual effort will be less, but less of a direct feel) and corner carving would be scary.
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