Yeah you guys are right. Some things can get overkill for just a street car. But sometimes it can be worth it, depending on what it is and for. I think that's why we make a "budget". Because most of us live in a "real world". If it were up to me with tons of money, I would be buying a custom built 430 SBC pushing 650hp/580ft. lbs. attached to a custom built T-56 with Wilwood 4 wheel disc brakes and a 12 bolt rear. But, funds are limited and so is my patience. I am going with a 350 SBC pushing 350hp. attached to a stock T-56 and front Willwood disc brakes and a modified 10 bolt rear. May sound almost identical, but it's like $8,000 difference there.

and that still isn't realistic for most folks.....if budget was no concern all our cars would be different.

Yeah true. But I guess it's cause I hang around people
who build cars with like no budget. These guys make over
100K a year, so money is like paperware. Just use it once
and throw it away after your done. One guy's got
over 15,000 invested, another has 10,000 invested,
etc. So, to me, my car is a little thing compared to these
guys. Another friend of mine wants to build 1 for street
with all original parts, and another one built just for
racing. Wow, and I can barely afford 1 car to rebuild.
He's already got both cars. Just need the time now.

100k a year is considered middle class now, still not enough if you have a family to do what you want when you want.

Unbelieveable pics Kandied! That torque arm looks as if it were never welded at all! That would make me sh!t my pants if I were doing 100MPH+. I wouldn't blame you if you were a little sour at this point. Huge projects often get jaded thanks to fighting aftermarket stuff all the time. Hell, once you build a thirdgen from the ground up you realize how much GM never really intended our cars for serious performance. Sometimes I really wish I would have built a Chevelle. Tons of room and ready for easy bolt on performance. Although, I think you should stick with a new torque arm but maybe scrape up $360 for a Random someday. No hurry if money is tight, I am just very happy with mine and pinion angle adjustment is very nice at the strip!

thanks for the suggestion...yeah i agree about how it looks rather strange really. powdercoat looks thicker then the welds. i'm not really sour about it, however i think others should know....if i had known what i know now about tpis like i do about this torque arm i wouldn't have bought either.

the internet is a great thing for this reason.....

100K a year is NOT considered middle class! LOL!
What are you guys smoking!????? More like 50K
a year is considered middle class. And you are still
wrong about the family part. Living proof at my
workplace. Most make around 70-120K a year.
All have their own house, kids and wife. They still
manage to build hot rods or motorcycles. Most of
them have wives not working either. Also, that
is their income, does not include if their wife's income
if she works.

It also depends on where you live too! So, around here
in Mass., most people make an average 50K. That's still
on the high side.

true area is dependent but for the majority of america 100k is middleclass especially double income families. here if you make 30-40k your a manger flipping burgers or working the graveyard shift somewhere.

i deal with it every day as a financial advisor.......now if your making 100k single or double you should be doing much better then that through investments with whom people like myself help to provide which allows these guys to do what they are doing. otherwise most of these people are living pay check to paycheck knee deep in dept. (however this is assuming the 50k year plan with wife, kids, mortage, etc.) all of which help to the demise of a hard working person.

but, again this is speculative...everyone's entitled to their opinion. please don't sway from the thread topic so it stays open.

Preach on brother Kandied! :hail:

well more phone tag with edlebrock.....

i would just weld it back together but then i won't get compensated they said.

It does suck what happened to your torque arm. It is definitely IMO. I wouldn't weld it though, make them compensate you.

Income: I work in a CNC machine shop and I only GROSS 25-30k a year. Not flipping burgers and fries. No, I run $70,000 machines everyday 50-60 hours a week. If I made half of the 100k in a dual income household, my car would be a hell of lot better than it is.

yeah which is why i've left it alone.....i'll try again monday.

or a grade school teacher

Really sorry to hear about this deal bro. Nothing will make you more mad, than to buy a brand new part, and have it break. I hope it all works out for ya. Keep us posted.

well get this........

they say they can't cut me a refund check for shipping. however they will work on getting me a hat or t-shirt.

if they deem it was something they should not have let out they will fix it at no cost to me. what a stand up company!

o'yeah, they won't cover the installation cost either..


add edlebrock onto my list of worthless companies!!

ok.. who did u talk to? was it some reg "level 1" supervisor?? id call back and say u want to speak to *** himself and call every 30 mins untill u actually get someone. cause im sure u will get the "hes out right now" line alot. thats totla BS. they wont pay shipping but will get u a t-shirt or hat... they were just trying to get u to agree to that so they can say "well he took our offer, so we thought he was ok with the outcome" definatly raise hell dude

You are way off, 100k is defiantley not middle class income. I believe middle class income is within the lines of 45-60k a year. Your "Burger flipping" income is along the lines of 11-16k a year. I could only imagine what is "rich" to you.

That just flat out sucks bro. I agree with aziroc. I'd call til I got someone who was in charge and see what they had to say. I wouldn't settle for a stupid shirt as payment for a faulty part.

What?! HAhAhaHA!! Yeah man, go advertise their broken products!! Get the shirt and send it to me, so I can put a big X over it and write Spohn in huge letters.

they will contact me when they recieve it which won't be until wednesday......we'll see then.

pasky i've already asked a few times for those not to change the subject....100k is middle class income. being in the investment business and knowing what goes on i run into it everyday. you want to know what rich is........rich is to be financially set. 6 figure plus yearly on salary and a min of 500k in liquid assets. with enough investments and insurance for your next of kin's family to live rich.

Your right Kandied91z 100k does seem like middle class....especially here in SoCal!!! between myself and my wife that's about what were pullin in and let me tellya everything is damn expensive here and it seems like were barely makin it sometimes.... and I certainly wont be buying stock in Edlebrock anytime soon either, hope you get that resolved.....:rockon:

It is on where you live. I don't care what you people
think.

It's always more expensive as I travel closer to Boston.
Which is everything. Living and buying stuff out there.
The closer you get to Worcester, which is where I am,
it gets cheaper. The cost of living dramatically increases
in Boston, and continues to the Cape. I can't say that
working out in Boston is better, but I assume it is because
a LOT of people commute to work out there everyday,
from a long distance!

This is very true too....get outside of the madness in SoCal and things seem a bit more realistic(except the Frisco area) My folks in MI think 700 a month for an apt is expensive till I tell'em the avg. O.C rent is $1250.00 a month for a 1 bdrm.....

true....it's reflective of where you live but so are the payment oportunites and depending on the area you pay for that as well. way to many factors but you won't be able to argue that a 100k income is good living in any market.

maybe move to mexico and have less taxes while importing your money but then you would be doing it illegal. either way you get what you get....

so anyway the edelbrock thing, we'll see what happens.

No one seems to want to stick to the subject, do they, man?

lol.....not really.


well they said they might be able to get me some reimbursement through clothing or possible jobber prices which does me no good. they said it's highly doubtful they will refund the installation price i had to pay.



i'm waiting until they recieve the TA but i'm not going to let them get away with sending me a hat. i want things to be taken care of properly or they can keep the piece.

It absolutely blows my mind that they want to give you a freakin hat for a broken TA. Wow. What kind of customer service is that? Sorry you have to go through this crap man. I know when I buy my TA, it won't be from them.

yeah i have to admit i was alittle surprised. i figured they would have done anything to cover it up. it isn't like i'm asking for a new chromoly driveshaft that i have to have rebalanced now along with other things had i actually been moving fast.

just goes to show you that you should really look over parts like that much better. however i still don't know what i could have done besides actual testing of it.

Well it's not like they are some hole-in-the wall company. They are Edelbrock for crying out loud. I do agree with you though, not sure how you could have tested it. Then again, you shouldn't have had to.

Hell, I think the damage to Edelbrock from your postings alone would make them jump through hoops for you. Although, as you and I know whenever a company hears "I put your part on and it's defective" they hear . After all what could we know Kandied we just use the parts.

Kandied91z,
Are you sure the TA was even welded? From the looking at your pics it looks like it was put together were it broke but never welded. Do you have any larger pics of where it broke?

if it wasn't welded it wouldn't have went together on the car...yes i'm certain.

This thread is why i went with the Kenny Brown STB, instead of the Edelbrock, don't need a weld on that thing breaking.......