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07-02-2008, 12:58 PM
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Car: 88 iroc-z z-28 Engine: 383 carbed beast Transmission: performabuilt 700r-4 Axle/Gears: 3.42 | Spohn two thumbs down!! Okay guys so far i ordered an adjustable torque arm lower control arms tranny mount and now their top gun driveshaft.
My first order with them was okay except for the fact it took them over a week just to get the stuff shipped out of their place.
The next order was the driveshaft. I ordered it saturday and asked teh guy if i did 3 day priority would it make it here thursday for the drag event here. He said yes and it would be shipped out monday.
I get nothing from them and i called to find out. They still havent made the driveshaft and wont be shipped out for a little more. They email and tell me that on the website it says build to order. However i called them and was nowhere near a computer.
I think they should have told me on the phone. Kind of pisses me off. actually it pisses me off a lot when idk if my driveshaft i have no will hold up for the drag event 
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07-02-2008, 02:36 PM
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Car: 1992 Firebird Engine: 305 S/C TBI Transmission: LT1 T56 Axle/Gears: LS1 rear end with 3.42 gears | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Sorry to hear that, I ordered some stuff from UMI before and it took over a week for them too ship it out and I called them and they said it would be sent out the next day.... well it acually shipped out 5 days later.
So its not just Spohn. Most important to me is the quality of the component, im never too worried about when it comes in. But then again if I was going to the track and NEEDED a part asap id be a little upset too. |
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07-02-2008, 02:44 PM
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Car: RS Engine: LS1 Transmission: T56 Axle/Gears: 9" for the ladies | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Ask about the people who prepaid for SFC's back in the day, how long before they shipped. 
Shipping within a week is actually pretty good time, so you really have nothing to complain about on the first order.
HOWEVER, on the second if they told you something would be so, and didn't do it, that's crap and I've had the same thing happen before to me.
All vendors seem to exaggerate their times to be quicker then actual.
Why they don't just say upfront, no we can't do that and it will be awhile I don't know. |
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07-02-2008, 08:35 PM
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Car: 88 iroc-z z-28 Engine: 383 carbed beast Transmission: performabuilt 700r-4 Axle/Gears: 3.42 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! thats what pissed me off. like then they emailed me today saying oh well you called our 24/7 hotline, they dont know much. Well im sorry but they need to know or tell us they dont know. im just mad cuz if i break my driveshaft ima lose it. lol
If they offered a hey we are sorry heres 10% off, at least they would have made things right.
Im gonna try bmr from now on. theyre like 40 minutes away too and give pickup discounts |
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07-10-2008, 08:47 PM
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| Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Let me explain something and hopefully you'll be a little more understanding. This is besides the fact that all the Top Gun driveshaft product pages have this right on the product page:
"Note: This driveshaft is built to order."
Many of the parts we offer are built to order, look at all the options we offer on everything, it would be impossible to have every single conceivable optioned out product sitting on the shelf just waiting to ship. Many of them are, some are not, we stock the most popular set ups and the rest can be a week to be built, powder coated, assembled and shipped.
I can see being frustrated that someone told you it would ship right out on the phone, that I understand. You see our after hours order line is supposed to be just for orders for people who know what they want but can't call during regular hours or don't want to order on the internet. It's a contracted call center that is not even located in our state, the people are not our employees and don't have access to our computers to look up stock, etc. They should have never told you that....
The problem was the industrial complex we were located in burned to the ground. It took a miracle and a ton of begging to get one single phone line run back to our shop. So all of that time we have been operating on one phone line, therefore we had to have all of our toll free numbers ring to the same line. That meant every call got forwarded after hours instead of just orders only calls and our call center people did the best they could dealing with getting the full range of calls.
Fortunately as most of you seen we finally moved out of the charcoal pit last week and are now finally getting back to normal.
I'd like to thank everyone for their patience and understanding during our down times since that disastrous day, we appreciate it. Thanks.
Steve Spohn 
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07-10-2008, 09:40 PM
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Car: 86 Camaro Z28, 85 Z28 Engine: 305, 355 Transmission: 700r4, t5 Axle/Gears: Stock, 10bolt 3:73 posi disc | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! I called a few days ago asking about shipping on a roll cage. The guy was very polite and got back to me via e-mail the next business day. I also sent an e-mail with a question and it was answered within 20 minutes. I'm sorry but customer service is not a flaw for spohn.
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07-10-2008, 10:58 PM
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Car: 1987 Firebird Engine: 355 Transmission: T56 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Quote:
Originally Posted by loud91rs I called a few days ago asking about shipping on a roll cage. The guy was very polite and got back to me via e-mail the next business day. I also sent an e-mail with a question and it was answered within 20 minutes. I'm sorry but customer service is not a flaw for spohn. | +1 from me.
I ordered a spohn T56 x-member with DS loop a little while ago, and i NEEDED it THAT week to finish my swap within warranty period. I got the x-member in a very timely manner, and they were nothing but helpful with follow up questions i had regarding the install.
I was most impressed by Steve's reply time with e-mail, he got back to me the same day with a problem i was facing during install.
I hear about shipping delays often from UMI, (usually when they do a group purchase or just release a new item), but this is the first im hearing of one from Spohn.
An accident like the workshop burning to the ground, and Steve PERSONALLY apologizing for an outsourced call center is good grounds for forgiveness. Im sure Steve's gonna try to prevent this in the future.
But i agree with kowboy on the fact that if you call a number on SPOHN's website, that is clearly for SPOHN, they should be able to answer questions properly, or atleast ADMIT they do not have the answer. Unless it is clearly stated ORDER LINE ONLY (not for questions) or something like that.....
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07-10-2008, 11:36 PM
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z28 Engine: Bolt on 5.7L / L98 Transmission: Modified 700R4 Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt G80 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! I just spent over $500 at Spohn. Couldn't be happier. My parts come tomorrow. Quote:
Originally Posted by Ol'Blue give a rats *** about your escuses! YOU are the person who contracted out bullcrap! (probably to India none the less). |
I really hope you don't expect anyone to take your post seriously. 
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07-10-2008, 11:55 PM
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Car: 89 Camaro w/ 92 gfx Engine: 305 TPI Transmission: 700R4 Modified Axle/Gears: 3:42...Auburn | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Quote:
Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\ umm, chill, seriously. |  The fact that Spohn is up and running talks miles for Steve's committment to his customers.
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07-11-2008, 04:37 AM
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Car: '91 Camaro Z28 Engine: 383 Vortec HSR Transmission: Pro-Built 700-R4;Vig 3500 stall Axle/Gears: 10 bolt / 3.73 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Steve is one of the few vendors who actually take time to come on this website and address feedback about their company. That in itself shows alot about his commitment to his customers. |
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07-11-2008, 05:34 AM
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Car: 1986 Camaro z28 Engine: 350 v8 Transmission: T5 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! some people eh... { yes im canadian so **** off  } if you are going to live by shipping times then you are out to lunch. I ordered some a/c components from a fellow on this board. He shipped them out and they mixed up the order in 3 different sorting plants.......... you cant blame these companies they are dealing wtih a high flow of orders and i know you would like for yours to be there within the hour but be serious. its just not going to happen. Quality takes time my freind. |
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07-11-2008, 08:32 AM
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Car: 1985 Berlinetta Engine: Megasquirted TPI Transmission: Transgo 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.42 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Steve,
I am sorry to hear about your misfortune, and i'm glad that everything is getting back to normal. I'm sure you'll have many more happy customers, as I've heard nothing but the best about you guys.
-Brendan |
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07-11-2008, 08:41 AM
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Car: 83Z28 HO Engine: 408 Transmission: G Force 5 speed, Moser 9" | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Quote:
Originally Posted by The Project  The fact that Spohn is up and running talks miles for Steve's committment to his customers. | -And his commitment to making money. Quote: |
Steve is one of the few vendors who actually take time to come on this website and address feedback about their company. That in itself shows alot about his commitment to his customers.
| -It's a smart thing to be committed to your business.....and customers that send in money for your product.
Don't get me wrong here, I've ordered a few things from Steve and have been happy with his products. It's getting hard to find thirdgen specific aftermarket parts nowadays. But it's his job he makes money with and pays his bills with. -And getting your company back up and running as soon as possible means you can start making money again sooner. To say it was because of his commitment to his customers sounds a lot better though doesn't it? Like something a political "Spin Doctor" would say...
As much as I'd like to think he responded to this post just out of pure concern for a fellow thirdgenner that got wronged, let's not take this out of perspective...it's his business. I'd respond too if it were my business - I don't want other customers thinking the answering service I hired was inadequate, even if they actually are.
Normally, when people are told that a product will be shipped on a particular day and it does not get shipped that day, they will inquire about it. 10% off on an order is a small profit margin to eat in order to maintain other customers. Quote: |
But i agree with kowboy on the fact that if you call a number on SPOHN's website, that is clearly for SPOHN, they should be able to answer questions properly, or atleast ADMIT they do not have the answer. Unless it is clearly stated ORDER LINE ONLY (not for questions) or something like that.....
| Well put...I agree. But all the above being said, I'd still order stuff from Steve because he does make good quality parts.
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07-11-2008, 11:46 AM
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Car: 1986 Camaro z28 Engine: 350 v8 Transmission: T5 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! regardless, how many times have we heard that they provide the best aftermarket parts? who else would you get them from at the same quality? sure enough things happen and if you cant accept that you are in for a wake up call every time something shows up late! i agree also with the order line, sadly alot of companies are doing it now because of the money issue they would have to face highering more employees and paying benefits and all that crap.
your situation sucks but sure enough it will show sooner or later |
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07-11-2008, 11:59 AM
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Car: 1987 Trans Am Engine: 383 Transmission: TH400 Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 4.11 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! I would be ashamed to provide a sorry service to customers.... |
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07-11-2008, 01:19 PM
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Car: 1992 RS 5spd, Primer Black..... Engine: 5.0 TBI/ swapping in Carb'd 355 Transmission: T5 Axle/Gears: Open rear diff with 3.08's | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Hey Ol'blue, not gonna add fuel to the fire here, but the thread was started by a guy who had a complaint. Thats fine, he had the complaint to make. Then the thread filled up with people saying they had good experiences, and with the guy Steve who evidently owns the place apologising directly to the guy with the complaint. Where do you come into this? Oh thats right, the same place I do, not involved. You're just causing arguement for the sake of. Remember this is a place where we're supposed to help each other out, and listening to you act the way you do doesn't represent that very well. |
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07-11-2008, 02:27 PM
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Car: 1991 z28 Engine: zz4 stealth ram Transmission: t56 Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Ol'Blue I would be ashamed to provide a sorry service to customers.... | i'm ashamed to be part of a board with people who complain so much, when they can't build parts and have to buy them, then they complain about the parts and service others have taken the time to design, build, and market. if you have a problem with parts or service from a vendor, show it by buying from someone else, you dont need to come on here and bash one of the best parts vendors around for our cars. i have tons of spohn parts and i can't say that they are perfect, but i know i cant make them for myself, so i'll live with it, and just be grateful that guys like steve spohn make owning our cars that much more fun with tons of cool bolt ons, and suspension parts |
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07-11-2008, 02:36 PM
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Car: 88 iroc-z z-28 Engine: 383 carbed beast Transmission: performabuilt 700r-4 Axle/Gears: 3.42 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! well since steve i guess(?) messaged me about two weeks ago i have heard nothing or received anything in my email about thats it finished or anything.
I understand about your situation and the burn down. But how bout saying that on the website or having the people warn you when you make a purchase. im on a stock driveshaft with 400+hp on motor and more on nitrous. im itching to spray or even launch hard from a dig but i know im screwed.
That why im a little frustrated. Lots of confusion with me and spohn and i have not gotten a sorry directly or anything to let me know we will rush your order...
Also i thought we got discounts being on here and them being a sponsor. thats how all my other forums work
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07-11-2008, 05:41 PM
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Car: 88 iroc-z z-28 Engine: 383 carbed beast Transmission: performabuilt 700r-4 Axle/Gears: 3.42 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! well thing is I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt to them. iive ordered lots of other stuff from them and didnt have any issues except the late shipping. im fine if i get told hey its gonna be a while, but when it takes over a week to get processed and then shipped it gets me mad when i get no info.
I just wanted to state what happened. I think if noone says anything then a company feels that they did fine and there were no issues. im tryin to bring up my experience and just let people know. |
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07-11-2008, 08:31 PM
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Car: See Sig Engine: See Sig Transmission: See Sig | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! What rearend are you running? Last I really checked, the driveshaft isnt the main weak point, its the rear. Footbraking a 700r4 isnt the most abusive thing in the world to a driveshaft. |
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07-11-2008, 11:53 PM
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Car: 1987 IROCZ Vert/1990 IROCZ Engine: 305 TPI/350 TPI Transmission: 5-Speed/700R4 Axle/Gears: 87 = 3.45's/90 = 3.73's | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! I'm not going to lock this thread because kowboy59 has a legitimate enough complaint.
That said, please remember this a FAMILY friendly website which means our language should be FAMILY FRIENDLY. It's not that hard to do. No name calling. You can be on whatever side of the fence you want to be on this thread, but you have to handle it in a decent way.
Keep this civil and quit saying things that forces me to delete posts when much of what you said was point on.
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07-12-2008, 02:21 AM
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Car: 92 RS, 87 IROC, 89 GTA Engine: LO3, LB9, L98 Transmission: 700R4 X3 Axle/Gears: 2.70, 3.30, 3.27 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! the thing that gets me, is if u have a 400 HP + motor, and a perfomabuilt tranny and all those nifty parts, why would u wait until a couple days before your day at the track to order the part you NEED to drive your car. I understand sometimes people dont have money and whatnot, but if you know your going to the dragstrip, and know that u will need the part, your not really leaving any room for error. I never get things in the mail on time, ever, thats why i always order them weeks before i need them. Spohn makes great parts, and im sure wen u get your driveshaft you wil be very happy with it. I understand your complaint about the call center, but sometimes you just need to suck it up and take the delay. I know how frustrating it can be, but spohn is a amazing thing for thirdgenners, alot of us are fully willing to wait a little while for a good part, especially if you get to know it was made only a few days before you got it. |
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07-12-2008, 10:11 AM
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| Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! Quote:
Originally Posted by 92WhiteZ28 the thing that gets me, is if u have a 400 HP + motor, and a perfomabuilt tranny and all those nifty parts, why would u wait until a couple days before your day at the track to order the part you NEED to drive your car. I understand sometimes people dont have money and whatnot, but if you know your going to the dragstrip, and know that u will need the part, your not really leaving any room for error. I never get things in the mail on time, ever, thats why i always order them weeks before i need them. Spohn makes great parts, and im sure wen u get your driveshaft you wil be very happy with it. I understand your complaint about the call center, but sometimes you just need to suck it up and take the delay. I know how frustrating it can be, but spohn is a amazing thing for thirdgenners, alot of us are fully willing to wait a little while for a good part, especially if you get to know it was made only a few days before you got it. | Well said! These were my sentiments exactly!!
Now for the Kudo's to Steve Spohn for his tenacity to get his building back up and running!!
As a business owner, he did everything right in order to keep his business going and get everything back online in a timely fashion.
I would like to see any one of you who bashed him in this thread, experience these same circumstances and get your business back up and running in the timely manner that he is!! Plus endure the stress and everything else associated with it.
C'mon, anybody want to try???? Well??
Unless you understand what the circumstances are, don't bash, cause all it does is make you look like the guy who helped put the "oron" in "Moron"!!
Good Luck Steve!!! |
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07-12-2008, 10:25 AM
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Car: 1991 Z28 1LE Engine: Supercharged 383 Transmission: TKO600 Axle/Gears: Strange 12 Bolt w/ 3.73 | Re: Spohn two thumbs down!! I'll reiterate my deleted post: Spohn supports a good number of other model / mfg vehicles and most if not all of those are made to order items. Yes, a misleading conversation o | | | |