Well I'm finishing up my HSR/Top End build up and could use some tips on getting braided lines into my female AN Fittings..... I got one together but it was a mess initially.... frayed hose ends everywhere I wrapped the end in electrical tape and trimmed the braided sleeve back with a dremmel but it was still alittle messy at first..... it now looks OK but there's gotta be an easier way Somebody help By the way, I turned my fuel rail back around the way Holley tells you too Grrrr... It fits but i hate it

Sorry, no real easy way. You just be careful taking off the tape on the freshly cut end and then try to fit the hose into the end without fraying the steel, turning the end while your pushing the hose in.

Put a hose clamp on the end to hold the braid together while you get it started.

I tape the ends with tightly wrapped 3M 88+ (good stuff) electrical tape. I then cut with a 3" cut-off wheel spinning as fast as possible and use light pressure to keep the speed up. This will make no frayed ends and the hose end will start easily if you use aeroquip or equivalent lube.

I cut my braided line back a 1/4" so that the hose can be inserted into the female end of the AN line. Looks the way it's supposed to and the male end fit into it no problem.

The braided Stainless steel sleeve shouldn't reach all the way to the internal threads should it? Mine wouldn't fit, it looks like the threads are a step smaller than the braid. Both are -6 AN.... and the braided sleeve would hit a grove in the front of the fitting. I bought Earl's AN fittings, sounds like some are made differently...

After doing some "Google" reading in the how to install AN Fittings some say push the braided line in flush.... I don't know...

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/arti...-fittings.html

http://www.project-mayhem04.com/AN%2...0How%20To.html

I'll be back at it tonite after my 12 hour shift.....

Go here. They sell Earl's Plumbing products, but they have great "how to" videos. The link is on the left side of the home page (tech videos).

Maybe this will help you.

http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/

The braided must be seated as far as it will go and reach the internal threads. Not seating it fully or trimming the braid weakens the assembly and won't allow it to reach its normal working pressure without bursting.

Thanks guys!!! That ANPlumbing.com site was a huge help...... seeing is believing.

I guess I'll be taking that one end I did last nite apart

My favorite is Aeroquip. Their stuff is pretty user friendly.
My first experience was with Earl's. Bad move. You need a shop dedicated to hose ends, or AA+ hands and lots of experience for Earl's.

Got it all done!!!!!!!!! and it went alot better after watching the videos. That link should be stickied

Thanks once again for the help guys

I'll be going to the dyno/dragstrip soon

Glad it helped you out. I am in the process of redoing my fuel lines under the hood. I will eventually get pics and a step by step scenario.

Why do you say that? There's not a whole lot of difference between the way the two work. I'd still never choose Earl's over Aeroquip though.

I buy all my shoot from anplumbing. I've probably given them well over 300 bux this year in fittings doing custom fuel rails. I prefer Russell over everything. The prices are fair, good design, I have a local (20 mins away) shop that deals in all Russell products and you can find them and get them quickly from Summit and jegs.

I've used Russell, but I wouldn't ever use them again. They're the only fittings I've ever stripped the threads on.

i used russel with no problems. it wasnt bad at all for me. Not sure what that link shows as i didnt watch it but i just pushed them on HARD and twisted. Once it started i put the end in a vise and tisted the hose over manually. worked great and was easy

definately wrap the hose with tape and cutoff wheel it be careful. cut any loose frays and carefuly insert it, then use raw force to shove the thing in and twist so it engages the threads. Wasnt bad at all

but glad you got it done

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IMO (for 2 cents) Earl's is pretty punk with their double cut hose ends. They are easy to get wrong, and their clearances are TIGHT. I had lots of trouble getting any & all parts together. All for 1450 Lbs burst instead of 1350 (or something like that). For someone who has fluids at under 100psi, what's the point?
More recently, I have done a bunch of hose ends since, on a race car. The experience has been much less frustrating. I use mostly Aeroquip.

Double cut ends?

i use Jegs house brand fittings, i dont know who makes them, but they are great quality, a breeze to assemble, affordable, and the hose is very nice too.

As for assembling, ive used Earls, Russel, Aeroquip, Summit and Jegs brands, and from what i remember, all of the parts that go on the end of the braided line, (usually the red piece) have a rib at the end with a left hand thread, so you just push and twist to the left and they go right together. and when you cut the hose, tape the cut first and cut in the center, it keeps the strands together.

the only brand i had a really hard time with was earls.

Earl's calls them double cuts.
The Earl's fittings I have seen are made to cut into the end of the hose, as you put them together. When you tighten it down, it makes an extra level of sealing. It also adds an extra level to screw up on. (On top of that, the nuts are super hard to put over the hose, at least for the non-professional.)
The fitting itself cuts into the trimmed end of the braided line (between the outside and the inside).
With Aeroquip, the fitting goes inside, and the nut screws outside, and that's it. They go together easily, and usually correctly.

Ah ok, you were using Swivel-Seal fittings, they're an outdated cutter-style design. Earl's Auto-Fit don't have that problem, but then you don't get the adjustability that you have with the Swivel-Seal or the Aeroquip reusable hose-ends. The Auto-Fits have a cheesy, cheap epoxied construction, too. So do the Russell fittings.

1995, when I put my Super Ram on.
I don't hold a grudge, naahhhh ;-)