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Old 03-30-2003, 11:38 PM   #1
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Curse you DuPont!

Here's a tip to anyone painting their own car. Everyone will tell you that you can't prime over bare metal- you have to use "metal conditioner." I bought some at the body shop supply place today (along with $350 of other stuff) and came home to wipe it over the bare metal. As soon as I open the bottle of DuPont Kwik Prep 244S I notice it looks and smells exactly like rubbing alcohol. I check the label (in super-small print)--- contains: isopropyl alcohol, water. That's it. I paid $18.95 for a quart of rubbing alcohol (available at WalMart for 49 cents).

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I noticed the smell too but when using PPG's version.
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So you're telling me that I can use rubbing alcohol to condition the metal before I prime it?
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So you're telling me that I can use rubbing alcohol to condition the metal before I prime it?
It appears so. The only 2 ingredients in the stuff is isopropyl alcohol and water. That's exactly what's in rubbing alcohol.

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thanks for the tip...:hail:
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Old 03-31-2003, 12:27 AM   #6
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YA the only thing the metal prep does is to clean off any contaminates from the surface before the paint is laid down. Just use rubbing alcohol.
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Do you take it off or leave it on before painting, I'm going to paint my truck wheels this summer, and could use some tips. I've done any suto painting before.
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Do you take it off or leave it on before painting, I'm going to paint my truck wheels this summer, and could use some tips. I've done any suto painting before.
its alcohol, it evaporates almost immediately leaving no residue....thats why its used
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its alcohol, it evaporates almost immediately leaving no residue....thats why its used
Ok I'm stupid, I was thinks rubber cement not rubbing alcohol. It makes sence now.
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Ok I'm stupid, I was thinks rubber cement not rubbing alcohol. It makes sence now.
I used PPG DX440. It is basically a cleaner/degreaser. They also make DX330 that is not quite as strong. Right before I paint I wipe the whole car down with this .. By the time you get around the car the otherside is dry. You will notice real quick if there is any oil on the metal because the primer will bubble as soon as hits it.
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Got a question for you guys:

So I'm going to be painting my stock chevy truck wheels (standard steal painted gray). Well last year my front caliber froze closed, heated up the roter, and blew out my bering grease all over the wheel. Well I still have a small amount of grease in the crevus (sp?) of the wheel. What can I tried getting it out with spray de-greaser, it worked great on the area that a can rub on, but I cant rub in the tiny crevises (sp?) so I cant get the grease out, Any ideas, I need to get this grease out before I prime it.
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Got a question for you guys:

So I'm going to be painting my stock chevy truck wheels (standard steal painted gray). Well last year my front caliber froze closed, heated up the roter, and blew out my bering grease all over the wheel. Well I still have a small amount of grease in the crevus (sp?) of the wheel. What can I tried getting it out with spray de-greaser, it worked great on the area that a can rub on, but I cant rub in the tiny crevises (sp?) so I cant get the grease out, Any ideas, I need to get this grease out before I prime it.
if your gonna paint the wheels anyways, use brake kleen
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if your gonna paint the wheels anyways, use brake kleen
What is that going to do to the wheels. Just remove the grease or the orig paint too.
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