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05-12-2008, 08:37 AM
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Car: 83 Z28 Camaro Engine: 305 Transmission: 5 Speed manual Axle/Gears: 3.73 | Black tail lights i've been thinking about painting my car black and making it look good to. but im starting to like how some people have those tints to the tail lights and i was wondering what they were called and or were to get them. |
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05-12-2008, 09:20 AM
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Car: '85 SC, '90 RS Engine: 305 LG4 :|, 350 L98 :) Transmission: 700R4, 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.23 non posi | Re: Black tail lights Black outs. Either spray it on with VHT nideshades spray or buy The plastic covers for them. Covers should be on ebay and niteshades either buy locally or on summit
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05-12-2008, 10:31 AM
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Car: 83 Z28 Camaro Engine: 305 Transmission: 5 Speed manual Axle/Gears: 3.73 | Re: Black tail lights okay thanks i will look them up to see what the price is for them. |
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05-12-2008, 10:35 AM
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| Re: Black tail lights do a search for nightshades on here, there are a few post with good tips on doing it your self. |
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05-12-2008, 11:26 AM
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS Engine: L03 305 TBI Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: 2.73 | Re: Black tail lights Might wanna check you local laws too. Both are illegal here. Nightshades even says it on the can "for off-road use only". |
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05-12-2008, 02:05 PM
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Car: 83 Z28 Camaro Engine: 305 Transmission: 5 Speed manual Axle/Gears: 3.73 | Re: Black tail lights i was looking on the interent for my state car laws but im not finding anything about night shades.. i'll have to ask my freind thats a cop about them..
by the way with the nightshades can you see the lights through them?!! |
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05-12-2008, 02:45 PM
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| Re: Black tail lights you can see the light through the nightshade spray but the darker you the less will come through.
it mainly effects daytime driving,night not so bad and your tails will not reflect. so I'm pretty sure its illegal for street use all most everywhere.
having said that a lot of guys still use the product.  |
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05-12-2008, 02:56 PM
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Car: 87 GTA Engine: L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: Dana M78 3.27 posi | Re: Black tail lights The good side to VHT is that YOU can decide how dark to tint YOUR lenses. With just 2 light coats, you can tint them but not hassled, usually. Light enough, and you can claim they are stock. Depends on how strict your local cops are. With covers, theres no hiding the fact that they are there.
Let's face it, GTA lights are dark STOCK, but that's becuse of the grid pattern, and I've never once had a cop say anything.
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05-12-2008, 08:30 PM
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Car: (2) 91 Camaro RS, 85 Camaro Z28 Engine: L03, L03, LG4 Transmission: 700r4, 700r4,700r4 Axle/Gears: Stock, Stock, Stock | Re: Black tail lights A really nice way to do it as well is have a body shop or do it yourself put just a little black in the clear and spray with that.
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05-12-2008, 10:18 PM
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Car: 83 Z28 Camaro Engine: 305 Transmission: 5 Speed manual Axle/Gears: 3.73 | Re: Black tail lights might have the people that are going to tint my windows do it... anyways... is it legal to tint the back window? i think it would be ok but be a pain in the bum to back up at night |
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05-12-2008, 10:42 PM
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Car: Black 92'Z / Blue 92'Z Engine: L98 / LB9 Transmission: 2 A4 w/ Corvette Servos Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt Disc / 9 Bolt drum | Re: Black tail lights i don't see any problem with that, it depends on how dark you are tinting them. Check your local laws on tint percentage. Hawaii is 35% on pass vehicles, as for SUV's & trucks that only pertains to the drivers & pass font windows, the rest can be blacked out as long as they have 2 side mirrors. Each state may differ, I know Vegas & Cali have different tint laws.The tint shop your going to should knopw the law.
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05-13-2008, 12:53 AM
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Car: 86 Firebat TA/92 Firebird Engine: 5.7L LT1/3.1L LH0 Transmission: 4L60E/T5 Axle/Gears: 373/342 10 Bolts | Re: Black tail lights OReillys can get VHT niteshades. Have to special order it. I got the order code somewhere. I'm almost thinking its SP001(those are zeros, not "O"'s). I payed maybe under $9 a can and it was there in 2-3 days.
What you do is wetsand the plastic at 220, then 400, then 800, then 1000. Clean it, then apply vht, then sand at 1000 then 1500 then 2000. And then use Duplicolor(i think) Truck and SUV clear coat spray paint. Then buff.
And actually go a little bit darker than how dark you want to be. This is because when you wetsand the vht niteshade down before you apply clearcoat, you take quite a bit of it off because the last layer doesn't seem to stick too well or something like that. Just a word of advice because now I have to redo mine because they aren't dark enough.
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05-13-2008, 02:28 AM
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Car: 1990 formula 305 tbi Engine: 305 tbi Transmission: 700r4 Axle/Gears: 3.73 | Re: Black tail lights the niteshades is a good way to go i think for the reasons they said earlier. you can start with light coats, and go darker if you still think you can get away with it. i did 3 good coats and it looks pretty stock in person. so far i haven't had any problems with the police for it either.
during the day they are pretty dark, but with lights on you can't really tell a difference. this is about a half a can of niteshades and a can of clear coat.  |
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05-13-2008, 08:18 AM
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Car: 83 Z28 Camaro Engine: 305 Transmission: 5 Speed manual Axle/Gears: 3.73 | Re: Black tail lights okay thanks for you help!!!! oooo firebat whats the tint percentage in our state??cause i think im going to norfolk and get it done at sound works |
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05-13-2008, 09:18 AM
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Car: iroc Engine: 5.7 350 Transmission: auto | Re: Black tail lights what looks the best is when you spray the lights with clear with some black mixed in...due to the fact that the clear makes it realy shinniey and the black makes it abit darker.
~nightshade has a funney look to it some times so becarfull with that
~ i personal like the black out covers from gts ( wich are on ebay all the time)
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05-13-2008, 09:20 AM
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Car: 1989 Pontiac Firebird, 96 VW Jetta Engine: 5.7 350 V8 Transmission: Automatic 700R4 | Re: Black tail lights Quote:
Originally Posted by loud91rs A really nice way to do it as well is have a body shop or do it yourself put just a little black in the clear and spray with that. |
Thats exactly what I did..I also added some red metal flake in there. (to go with my paint scheme)
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05-13-2008, 10:31 AM
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Car: 83 Z28 Camaro Engine: 305 Transmission: 5 Speed manual Axle/Gears: 3.73 | Re: Black tail lights wow my school internet it doesn't load pictures worth of crap... i just might have sombody do it professionally or just buy the night shade that just pop in or somthing... |
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05-13-2008, 11:14 AM
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Car: iroc Engine: 5.7 350 Transmission: auto | Re: Black tail lights |
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05-14-2008, 10:09 PM
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#19 | | Junior Member
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Car: 83 Z28 Camaro Engine: 305 Transmission: 5 Speed manual Axle/Gears: 3.73 | Re: Black tail lights toxik how much did your black outs cost you? |
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05-16-2008, 05:08 PM
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Car: 1982 & 1983 Trans Am Engine: 350 & 350 Transmission: 4 Spd & 700r4 Axle/Gears: ?Posi & 3.23? | Re: Black tail lights hey,
has anyone niteshaded early 3rd gen trans ams with the rippled taillights? mine are a bit clear and I have a pair of broken ones to test trial.
for the black/clear mix, would they have to be wetsanded? |
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05-17-2008, 09:07 AM
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Car: iroc Engine: 5.7 350 Transmission: auto | Re: Black tail lights It would prly be in your best intrest to. |
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05-17-2008, 09:19 AM
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Car: 86 Firebat TA/92 Firebird Engine: 5.7L LT1/3.1L LH0 Transmission: 4L60E/T5 Axle/Gears: 373/342 10 Bolts | Re: Black tail lights Quote:
Originally Posted by KnightmareCS hey,
has anyone niteshaded early 3rd gen trans ams with the rippled taillights? mine are a bit clear and I have a pair of broken ones to test trial.
for the black/clear mix, would they have to be wetsanded? | You could probably get away with starting at 800 grit. I only start at 220 to sand off any DOT numbers. You gotta wetsand though.
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05-17-2008, 09:21 AM
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Car: 86 Firebat TA/92 Firebird Engine: 5.7L LT1/3.1L LH0 Transmission: 4L60E/T5 Axle/Gears: 373/342 10 Bolts | Re: Black tail lights I looked up my receipt from OReillys. The code is SP999 for niteshades |
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05-17-2008, 03:49 PM
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Car: 1982 & 1983 Trans Am Engine: 350 & 350 Transmission: 4 Spd & 700r4 Axle/Gears: ?Posi & 3.23? | Re: Black tail lights One question though, wouldn't sanding it make it smokey? I've sanded plexi before and it would have that white smokey look to it. The Niteshade would cover that and make it more see-through?
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05-18-2008, 03:03 AM
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Car: 86 Firebat TA/92 Firebird Engine: 5.7L LT1/3.1L LH0 Transmission: 4L60E/T5 Axle/Gears: 373/342 10 Bolts | Re: Black tail lights If you go down to 1000 grit, the niteshade seems to get rid of a lot of the smokey or haze. It covers it up pretty good. The reason not to go more than 1000 grit or even polished is because the niteshade won't stick to the plastic then. 1500 grit won't even work sometimes. With a better paint, you may be able to get it to stick to plastic better. |
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05-19-2008, 09:51 AM
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Car: 89 Camaro RS/SS Engine: LT1 Transmission: 460LE Axle/Gears: 10 bolt with 3.42 | Re: Black tail lights How did you attach the gts blackouts? I have a set, but don't have anything to attach them with. |
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