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Old 04-24-2009, 01:25 AM   #1
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Projector retrofit inside(w/pics)

If this belongs in the "fabrication" topic.Mods please move, if needed.Anyway,I started with escalade/jag/vette projectors.These are from a jag.Valeo brand, single xenon, 2.5dia,6 3/4 long,D1s style lamps.I taped over the side vents with some chrome duct tape.

Next, ebay "fake" projector 4656 headlamps.
Most of it wont be used.

Cut back half for projector retrofit.Remove glass by cutting away the caulking.
Dont pry the glass, it will break!

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Very cool project. How much are you going to have to cut the Camaro's light bar to fit those?
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Thanks, I wont have to cut anything on the car.At most i may need to enlarge the hole on the headlight bucket to accomodate the projectors.

Corrugated adapters glassed on.Made from a plain ol cardboard box.Cut to fit headlamp opening.Notice the two black lines/markers on the sides of the corrugated piece.These match the cutoff.Make them level on the headlamps for proper alignment of the projector.

How they'll fit, once mounted.

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how did you seperate the glass lens from the housing
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That should look tight..
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Will that fiberglass be able to withstand the heat from the projectors?
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Will that fiberglass be able to withstand the heat from the projectors?
The ebay lamp housings are composite,lense is glass.Ive no doubt the fiberglass will hold.HIDs run cooler than incandescent bulbs, plus they'll have lots of ventilation

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how did you seperate the glass lens from the housing
I used a x-acto knife to cut the adhesive.From both out & inside the housing.

Here's a few more pics

Except for the OEM buckets, ready to mount.

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Wow, they look good. Can't wait to see some installed pics.
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sweet man....i have some projectors layin around i was thinking the same thing....jus neva had the time to do it......but now i will......i already have hids in the iroc jus no projector....
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wow cant wait to see them on the car
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how was teh process of resealing them?
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Done,I will try a night time pic later on, but here's a few more.
Headlight buckets.Left stock, Right modified.
This is the only "cutting" i had to do on the car

Back view

Fit just like stock.

HID lamps just clear the batt & Jacobs box

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how was teh process of resealing them?
I used liquid nails, but any adhesive thats bonds to glass should work fine.

No clearence issues, so no need to cut light bar/rad support.

I forgot to take a pic with the lamps off.

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i would get two more projectors and do the hi beams....even if you dont wire them in....or use the ebay fake projector ones in there....it will look better.....
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i would get two more projectors and do the hi beams....even if you dont wire them in....or use the ebay fake projector ones in there....it will look better.....
I thought about that & may do that in the near future, but i cant remember the last time i used my Hi's.I also have two hi beam projectors i can try to fit.Ill wait & see though.Right now i like the way it looks.
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could u pm me with more info on where u got the projectors from...and the process of wiring them up?
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wow... wanna help me do my car
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Very cool! I bought the same lights for my car.I had to return a set because the brackets that hold the projector on had popped off.
You did a really nice job with them!
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Thanks, cost around one bill(4-09).
Projectors $77
Fake proj $25
Adhesive $5
Paint $5

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4 Halos $87
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Looks great! I might have to try this, unless you're willing to sell some already done.
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Dont have any pre-built.Since Ive no idea what projectors one would like to use.Also just for labor Id say around $100!
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Where did you pick up the projectors and the housings up for so cheap? And was that including the bulbs? What did you do about the ballasts and the wiring?
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ebay.Ballast/harness are on the bumper support.Bulbs came with the xenarcs.
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Glad you like it.
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sadly that would never fit my KARR I have H6052's. but I have Hella E-Codes
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Where there's a will there's a way.Maybe that that exact projector, but another.I put even bigger projectors in my triumph.The amount of space on that(or any) bike is smaller than most cars.
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how much would you sell a premade set for? im actually very interested, ive always wanted projector for my car
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These looks really good, this is actually something I want to do someday.

Which cheapy projector housings did you use?
I've seen a few on ebay, did yours have the city light in it?

I don't really want it, and not sure if after I cut out the hole for the projector if it will still be there or not.

I would rather just get a housing that doesn't have them to start with.

could you send me a link to the ones you bought?

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These are the lamps.His prices have gone up a bit.They have the city light, but that portion is eliminated when cutting the lamp for the projector mod.
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These are the lamps.His prices have gone up a bit.They have the city light, but that portion is eliminated when cutting the lamp for the projector mod.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/77-82...lenotsupported
$5 .... seriously ?
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$5 .... seriously ?
plus $19 shipping lol

but that's about the same price as the ones I was looking at once you add in the shipping.
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Starting price was 1.99, BIN was 2.99, shipping is the same(ins req).I dont think he charged me tax either.
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just got me a pair, this is something I've been wanting to do for awhile but I couldn't find 4x6 lights to do the retro.

Now need to find me some projectors.
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For ebay, just go to "lighting & lamps" category.The type "projectors" in the search bar.You will get OEM projectors in the results.The other methods you will see TONS of aftermarket sh!t, plus hundreds of the fakes as well.
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Good work on the fab. Always a fan of people custom making things they want when they're not available, or at least not at a good price.

...that being said though, and I know I'm in the minority, but I've felt no matter how much technology and R and D goes into it light, it's still just that. LIGHT. ...and short of blinding oncoming traffic, and being able to see ALL THE WAY TO YOUR DESTINATION.... ...there's no real need for "better" light.

Like I said, I know my opinion is in the minority, and it's just that, an opinion. Either way, nice work.
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If your blinding traffic its more likely your lamps are NOT aimed properly.Projectors, well project light in the proper place.That combined with proper aiming of the headlights is better for everyone.No need to be driving around blinding oncoming traffic & thats my opinion!.
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If your blinding traffic its more likely your lamps are NOT aimed properly.Projectors, well project light in the proper place.That combined with proper aiming of the headlights is better for everyone.No need to be driving around blinding oncoming traffic & thats my opinion!.
exactly!

Properly aimed HID projectors, is such an improvement over halogen sealed beam, there is no comparison really.

Like 1le said, if you're blinding other drivers, then they are not aimed properly. Quality projectors will have a cutoff, which keeps most of the light on the ground and out of the eyes of oncoming traffic. Some even have levelers built in too.
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I've been driving for almost 20 years and have never had problems seeing where I was going at night.

Like I said though, it's all good and I admire the work. The mere fact that I even HAVE my Iroc is an exercise in desire, not necessity, so far be it for me to begrudge anyone for doing anything they want to do!!!
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I've been driving for almost 20 years and have never had problems seeing where I was going at night.

Like I said though, it's all good and I admire the work. The mere fact that I even HAVE my Iroc is an exercise in desire, not necessity, so far be it for me to begrudge anyone for doing anything they want to do!!!

yea i would of aggred with you a while back, but drive a car with real good headlights, it actually makes a huge diff, i never figured it, till i got a hold of a good set of headlights now headlights is my first up grade to any car/truck or whatnot i buy
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These are the lamps.His prices have gone up a bit.They have the city light, but that portion is eliminated when cutting the lamp for the projector mod.
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is the lens glass on these lights
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wow I'm impressed. I think it turned out exceptional. Great work!
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Hey Rick,

Nice work bro I would love a pair of these.

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