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as stated before, it would be better if the front of the scoop was a little wider to match up with the front bumper of a firebird or trans am.
Its really sad that us firebird/trans am owner get the **** end of the stick when it comes to aftermarket hoods... i dont want a RA1 or RA2 hood and a cowl just doesnt look right on a street car IMO
as stated before, it would be better if the front of the scoop was a little wider to match up with the front bumper of a firebird or trans am.
Its really sad that us firebird/trans am owner get the **** end of the stick when it comes to aftermarket hoods... i dont want a RA1 or RA2 hood and a cowl just doesnt look right on a street car IMO
That's because the 82-92 Trans Am and firebird formula are perfect. (the 82-92 firebird would be to if they came with 82-84 TA/ 87-92 formula hoods lol)
heres some pics.. sorry so crappy. i got poop faced kinda early watchin the 1pm games the hood is just sitting on top. The last pic shows what i was tryin to accomplish b4.
This hood is not a direct bolt on. It will need to be trimmed and fitted.
heres some pics.. sorry so crappy. i got poop faced kinda early watchin the 1pm games the hood is just sitting on top. The last pic shows what i was tryin to accomplish b4.
This hood is not a direct bolt on. It will need to be trimmed and fitted.
i finally got all my engine parts in, so the hood got kicked to the back burner till the motor goes in and is running. I will however get a better pic for you guys this weekend. I have my old hood off, so it wouldnr be anything to lay the new one down and get you some more pics
based on this hood, i made my own, it's 89 percent done now, thought i'd share. all metal by the way, i hate fiberglass on top of metal, but man it's heavy now.
does anyone think this hood will create a problem with my K&N in the rain? i've got some stainless mesh i'm throwin in the opening after i'm done smoothing it.
I still agree with this. I'm by no means a tire kicker, but with the great looks of the IROC hoods, and the $600 price tag, I'll stick with my stock hood. I'd rather spend 600 dollars on something that will be useful, like the T-56 I plan on buying.
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I think it looks good! Loneroad, so this hod can be made functional if you buy the ram air box?
i dont know if there is a ram air box for this hood. There is a insert in the scoop, but the scoop isnt cut out yet. I can take a pic of this for you so you can see what i mean.
Whats with harwood not knowing how to make the front - trailing edge - of the hood come to a nice point like factory hoods, of like my fiberglass hood from unlimited products I bought years ago? Seriously, something has to be done with that flat chunck they have for a edge, or they just look stupid. It blows my minds when I see guys who mount hoods like that with finished paint not having done some sort of smoothing of that front edge. Harwood should know what their hood looks like when theyre mounted on a car and change them.
Whats with harwood not knowing how to make the front - trailing edge - of the hood come to a nice point like factory hoods, of like my fiberglass hood from unlimited products I bought years ago? Seriously, something has to be done with that flat chunck they have for a edge, or they just look stupid. It blows my minds when I see guys who mount hoods like that with finished paint not having done some sort of smoothing of that front edge. Harwood should know what their hood looks like when theyre mounted on a car and change them.
The flat edge is from the molding process & is for rigidity to hold the hood in the correct shape, during curing & shipping.
It is the customers who simply shoot paint on & bolt the hoods on, that don't prep their hoods right, that you should be mad at. Harwood knows what their doing.
Blame the customers for lack of prep, not Harwood for making a good product.
Whats with harwood not knowing how to make the front - trailing edge - of the hood come to a nice point like factory hoods, of like my fiberglass hood from unlimited products I bought years ago? Seriously, something has to be done with that flat chunck they have for a edge, or they just look stupid. It blows my minds when I see guys who mount hoods like that with finished paint not having done some sort of smoothing of that front edge. Harwood should know what their hood looks like when theyre mounted on a car and change them.
Harwood knows exactly what they're doing... they made the top piece curl over like that so that it doesn't get destroyed during shipping. It's up to the owner to trim it to match their tastes.
The flat edge is from the molding process & is for rigidity to hold the hood in the correct shape, during curing & shipping.
It is the customers who simply shoot paint on & bolt the hoods on, that don't prep their hoods right, that you should be mad at. Harwood knows what their doing.
Blame the customers for lack of prep, not Harwood for making a good product.
Well that's what I get for typing my response then waiting a half hour to click "submit".
Daddy-likee, gotta get rid of the POS that I got from one of those mail order places out in Cali, it looked like they yanked it out of the mold too soon and I had to do a lot of finishing, and it still doesn't fit right, should have went with Harwood to begin with.
The flat edge is from the molding process & is for rigidity to hold the hood in the correct shape, during curing & shipping.
It is the customers who simply shoot paint on & bolt the hoods on, that don't prep their hoods right, that you should be mad at. Harwood knows what their doing.
Blame the customers for lack of prep, not Harwood for making a good product.
I havn't seen a harwood hood in person, what does the front of the hood, (underneath of the front lip look like)? I wish I could see the underside, are there provisions in the form for removing it, or lines or something? I don't buy the whole "its there for shiping" because there are plenty of ways to protect the front of the hood with packaging, so forth. And if its there for proper "curing", I would think the hoods have finished curing before they are being shiped to the customer, meaning they could shape, or remove the lip before they send it. Again, I have not seen one in person or talked to harwood, but it seems more like lazyness with an explanation, meaning its easier for harwood or other manufactures to lay there hoods up like that and then say there is a reason for it, instead of going the extra mile and modifying there molds, or making the front edge the right shape to begin with. For Cureing ? I think there are alot of people on here that have made things out of fiberglass, I've never had anything curl or loose its shape. That makes it sound like wood or something.
I havn't seen a harwood hood in person, what does the front of the hood, (underneath of the front lip look like)? I wish I could see the underside, are there provisions in the form for removing it, or lines or something? I don't buy the whole "its there for shiping" because there are plenty of ways to protect the front of the hood with packaging, so forth. And if its there for proper "curing", I would think the hoods have finished curing before they are being shiped to the customer, meaning they could shape, or remove the lip before they send it. Again, I have not seen one in person or talked to harwood, but it seems more like lazyness with an explanation, meaning its easier for harwood or other manufactures to lay there hoods up like that and then say there is a reason for it, instead of going the extra mile and modifying there molds, or making the front edge the right shape to begin with. For Cureing ? I think there are alot of people on here that have made things out of fiberglass, I've never had anything curl or loose its shape. That makes it sound like wood or something.
Obviously you have very little knowledge of fiberglass. Like the curing process or the outgassing properties.
For example....
Every 'glass manufacturer will tell you to wait X number of days before painting it, to allow for outgassing of the chemicals used in the manufacturing process.
deffinately diggin this hood. But im not gettin rid of my cowl. Maybe if I ever have another one. I think the scoop could be functional for a TBI car or Carb. car.
Obviously you have very little knowledge of fiberglass. Like the curing process or the outgassing properties.
For example....
Every 'glass manufacturer will tell you to wait X number of days before painting it, to allow for outgassing of the chemicals used in the manufacturing process.
That first statement is pretty funny. Guess I hit a nerve.
Soooo......what are you trying to say? Are you implying that harwood ships its hoods before they have finished curing? Are they still leaching gasses when the average guy gets his hood home and is ready to mount it? Instead of making a lame comment about my "knowledge", why don't you answer some of the questions I asked in my previous post, because - you OBVIOUSLY know so much more about fiberglass than I do, I mean... you must... you have "Curing Process" and "Outgassing Properties" in your vocabulary.
That first statement is pretty funny. Guess I hit a nerve.
Soooo......what are you trying to say? Are you implying that harwood ships its hoods before they have finished curing? Are they still leaching gasses when the average guy gets his hood home and is ready to mount it? Instead of making a lame comment about my "knowledge", why don't you answer some of the questions I asked in my previous post, because - you OBVIOUSLY know so much more about fiberglass than I do, I mean... you must... you have "Curing Process" and "Outgassing Properties" in your vocabulary.
I already explained in my post.
Stiffness for shipping. Curing time. Production chemicals need curing & outgassing time.
Contact the manufacturer that your buying from, for more specifics.
I've never seen a fiberglass hood that was ready to bolt on out of the box, every single one I've seen need atleast 3 to 5 days curing time in the sun,or if you have a bodyshop with heat lamps they can do it in hours, and needed shaping before fitting nicely on any car, the front lip is to strengthen the hood until it is ready to be put on the car, most fiberglass hoods are hand laid in a mold and most do not have guide lines/ marks on where to shape it because every car is different especially f-bodys which twist like crazy, your lucky if you buy an aftermarket piece that fits a Camaro or firebird perfectly.
Also look at the first pic in post #69, sticker says hood has rolled edges to protect during transit and recommended curing time, my cirvini had a similar sticker on it
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Personally I'm a fan of the plain, non-louvered stock hood. A Camaro sits low to the ground, and is wide, the hood should be the same...low/flat and wide.
Although I COULD get the Japanese reverse induction hood...
Saw it in a magazine a couple weeks ago for a 69 (big surprise ) but got really excited when I saw that they listed it for camaros from 67 - 92.
Id love to see a picture if someone could post one of the hood installed on a third gen cause I havnt seen any yet. I think the squareness would go really well with our cars.
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Thats an awesome hood. Now I have to agonize over choosing between it and this:
deffinately go with this new hood. that other hood is fugly
Thats an IROC hood. I don't think it was a stock item, but you must hold judgment until you see it on a car. Someone actually windowed out the louvers and dimples and it was awesome. Hell, it even looked great just the way it is.
I've never seen a fiberglass hood that was ready to bolt on out of the box, every single one I've seen need atleast 3 to 5 days curing time in the sun,or if you have a bodyshop with heat lamps they can do it in hours, and needed shaping before fitting nicely on any car, the front lip is to strengthen the hood until it is ready to be put on the car, most fiberglass hoods are hand laid in a mold and most do not have guide lines/ marks on where to shape it because every car is different especially f-bodys which twist like crazy, your lucky if you buy an aftermarket piece that fits a Camaro or firebird perfectly.
Also look at the first pic in post #69, sticker says hood has rolled edges to protect during transit and recommended curing time, my cirvini had a similar sticker on it
Thats Intersesting. How do you know if it needs curing? Is it actually soft, or can you smell it or something? I know all fiberglass needs work, but I guess my hood must have been better than most are usually. Also, there was no signs (at least ones that I know about) that it needed curing.
I don't care how twisted a third gen is though, wiith camaro, the front edge of the hood will be (or at least should be) a constant, paralell line with the top of the hood. It's basically exposed over the headlights ( doesn't touch anything) and in the center, needs to have the same - low profile - because of the way it rests on the font bumper cover. It looks absolutly wrong any other way, and that was a big part of my beef when I posted.
So when they pull a hood or other body part is from a mold, and send it, it's still soft enough to bend or mishape? I guess I'm a little confused still, because I can't figure out why they would pull a hood from a mold that is still soft enough to misshape. wouldn't the act of pulling it from the mold possibly make it loose its shape? Maybe thats a big part of why fiberglass in general needs so much work?
By the way, thanks for the info, thats what I was getting at when I said "why didn't you answer my questions?".
Thats Intersesting. How do you know if it needs curing? Is it actually soft, or can you smell it or something? I know all fiberglass needs work, but I guess my hood must have been better than most are usually. Also, there was no signs (at least ones that I know about) that it needed curing.
I don't care how twisted a third gen is though, wiith camaro, the front edge of the hood will be (or at least should be) a constant, paralell line with the top of the hood. It's basically exposed over the headlights ( doesn't touch anything) and in the center, needs to have the same - low profile - because of the way it rests on the font bumper cover. It looks absolutly wrong any other way, and that was a big part of my beef when I posted.
So when they pull a hood or other body part is from a mold, and send it, it's still soft enough to bend or mishape? I guess I'm a little confused still, because I can't figure out why they would pull a hood from a mold that is still soft enough to misshape. wouldn't the act of pulling it from the mold possibly make it loose its shape? Maybe thats a big part of why fiberglass in general needs so much work?
By the way, thanks for the info, thats what I was getting at when I said "why didn't you answer my questions?".
im no expert on Fiberglass, im just learning how to use it, but my understanding is the Fiberglass itself is hard and firm, but the Gel coat is what needs curing before you can sand and paint, i just knew to leave my hood out in the sun because it said to on the sticker, i bought it used(never used on a car) so i dont know how long the other member let it sit in the sun, but i just did it to be sure
the reason for them leaving that edge all the way around the hood(atleast on my cirvini) is to help it from flexing and cracking the fiberglass during transport, not really misshaping
I agree the front edge of the hood should run flat along the front like the stock hood, but thats where trimming of that edge comes into play, im just going to cut that edge completely off when im ready to mount mine, so everything sits nice and flush
Not crazy about this new hood. Looks like someone walked up to their library drop box and ripped it off the wall and then glued it to their hood.
To each their own. Glad to see the industry continuing to make 3rd gen products though.
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) but got really excited when I saw that they listed it for camaros from 67 - 92.
