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would these fit in a 91 firebird dash?? Quantity Product Price Base Shipping Options Subtota 9 WLED-x5 LED Wide Angle LED bulb $ 2.99 $ 0.00 Green WLED-G5 1.15 $37.50
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HELP!!!! i just went and bout some 194 led lights from autozone (just the bulb) i FINALLY get my dash off and go to put the lights in and there is the bad news....the little bracket that holds the light is a entire assembly and it says you have to replace the ENTIRE thing you cant just pull the light out and replace it with the led!! WTF good news there is only 4 194s and like 6 161s on a 1990 camaro rs...
ok to the point anyone know where i can get the ENTIRE assembly and the led (194 bulbs) for my camaro gauges??
If you have a wrecking yard near you, stop by and see if they have any older 3rd gens. In my 84, the bulb and the socket will come apart but it looks just like the ones in the 90+ years that are a 1 piece unit.
So you untwist it from the cluster you can then pull the bulb out of the base and replace it, reusing the old base. If you can find some of those, then you can put your LEDs into that, and put that into your 90 cluster. Not sure why GM decided to go with a 1 piece thing in the later models, really stupid.
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do them by hand, took me a half hour and it looks better, plus i kept the bill under $10, couldnt ask for a better result, i have people pulling up next to me at night commenting the blue glow
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ok i got my buddies 87 cluster twist locks for the bulbs and that worked just fine...and i put 4 led bulbs and it looks pretty dang good already cant wait to see what it looks like with all of them in....(only 4 cuz thats all they had at autozone)
Yes, 9 LED lamps will work, but you have to install them from the front by removing the gauges & pulling the bulbs only.The 9 LED units are too big for the hole the socket goes into.The hardest part is the speedo(the cable driven ones).Since you have to release the cable from behind the cluster to remove it.Or you can hassle with it & try to install the LEDs with long needle nose plies!
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ok so im going to do this, what exactly do i need to order to get it to look like this
PS i have a 91 Camaro
i want blue
Here's what mine looks like after i switched from white LEDs to blue (matches OEL pioneer deck).You will need 194 LEDs any # of LEDs will work.Just depends on how bright you want it & how much your willing to spend.I spent about $25 on 6 four LED & 3 nine LED lamps of the blue.All from superbrightleds.com.Pic is from my cell so the color is a little off, but its plenty bright though.
Yes, 9 LED lamps will work, but you have to install them from the front by removing the gauges & pulling the bulbs only.The 9 LED units are too big for the hole the socket goes into.The hardest part is the speedo(at the cable driven ones).Since you have to release the cable from behind the cluster to remove it.Or you can hassle with it & try to install the LEDs with long needle nose plies!
Here's what mine looks like after i switched from white LEDs to blue (matches OEL pioneer deck).You will need 194 LEDs an# of LEDs will work.Just depends on how bright & how much your willing to spend.I spent about $25 on 6 four LEDs & 3 nine of the blue LEDs.All from superbrightleds.com.Pic is from my cell so the color is a little off, but its plenty bright though.
whats the least amount, ill prolly add 5 to the amount needed for safe side,
yours looks like the light leaks through on the sides, i dont want that
whats the brightness off the pic i showed? if you know, if not anyone else?
The gauges in your link look to be back lit.Camaro gauges are front lighting(early years anyway).Meaning the light bouces off the gauge bezel & onto the face of the gauges.The units in your link are are illuminated from the back.So the light passes thru the #s.Kind of like the gear indicator is lit.There is little to no leak thru.Its the camera phone, Im guessing.If you dont want that much bleed thru though.Then use LEDs with less then 9 or even 6 LEDs per.Try 4 or less, but they wont be as bright & you will have dim/dark spots as well.There is little you can do about though since camaro gauges dont use back lighting.
the 91/92 cluster is a backlit cluster, the real problem with these clusters is the yellow writing.
So a blue LED combined with the yellow of the writing on the gauges is going to give a greenish glow.
That's what I'm running into, I want to use white LEDs (to get that bright whitish/bluish look) but the yellow letters ruins everything.
I tried to remove the yellow, but it won't come off the gauge face. I think the only way 91/92 cluster can have a different color is to have new gauge faces made. Which is costly, but when I finally get back to working on my car, I'll eventually just pay to have new ones made with white letters.
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Doesnt green & yellow make blue?Maybe green LEDs will give better results.Paint some bulbs green & try them out before spending any money on green LEDs though.Worth a shot anyway.
ok. just a little bit confused. would i install the wedge base leds in my 84 Camaros gauge just like the article says or would i have to do it a different way?
Doesnt green & yellow make blue?Maybe green LEDs will give better results.Paint some bulbs green & try them out before spending any money on green LEDs though.Worth a shot anyway.
In my world, green and yellow make greenish yellow....not blue. Blue and yellow makes green, however. Not that it matters...
the 91/92 cluster is a backlit cluster, the real problem with these clusters is the yellow writing.
So a blue LED combined with the yellow of the writing on the gauges is going to give a greenish glow.
That's what I'm running into, I want to use white LEDs (to get that bright whitish/bluish look) but the yellow letters ruins everything.
I tried to remove the yellow, but it won't come off the gauge face. I think the only way 91/92 cluster can have a different color is to have new gauge faces made. Which is costly, but when I finally get back to working on my car, I'll eventually just pay to have new ones made with white letters.
paint thinner? i want to keep the black face gauges but I am hatin on the yellow
Dont know if anyone is still looking but here are some on ebay not sure how well they fit or work, but for $9.00 if they look like crap pitch em if anyones interested. Id love to see some pics if anyone get these
So could someone link or give me the exact name/number of the LEDs I need.
I want blue ones, and shall it have a large/wide angle ? do be best ?
I want good light so it can be shown at day/dusk/dawn/night etc. But not over bright so you need to wear sunglasses when driving the car.
Shall I have 90 or 120 degree ones ?
is these the ones I need ? :
WLED-x-x LED bulb
12VDC 1-LED Wedge Base Bulb (194/168 type) with 90 or 120 degree Wide Viewing Angle LED
Select LED Color and Viewing Angle
They cost $0.79 each
Is those the right ones to get a good light, and good spread over the dash so it wont be super bright on some spots and less light on some.
Please help me out guys
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This one: http://i41.tinypic.com/2yxgrd3.jpg (picture from above)
looks pretty bright, you have any other picture with a "better" camera ? at maybe daylight and maybe a nightshot again ?
Is it superbright so you get annoyed when driving at night or is it good ?
Also how many light do I need 11 ?
I want the turn signals and highbeam to be the stock colours.
the 91/92 cluster is a backlit cluster, the real problem with these clusters is the yellow writing.
I hate the yellow myself, but with the red leds I used, the numbers light up pure red at night. I was a little worried they would be too orange, but the red must overpower the yellow.
By soldered, I meant to the socket and they twist out as an assembly. Yes, the LED fits inside that socket. The same site also has LEDs alredy in a twist-lock socket if you find you might need the whole assembly. Might have to take some measurements to see which ones fit best. Fortunately, the lights for my 89 weren't soldered in, but on my 92 they were.
1990 changed dash and I think they was soldered after that, before that it was replaceable bulbs without soldering, I just ordereed 15 blue 120 degree angle leds and 3 white leds (I think the transmission light is the same bulb so I orderd some extra blue and white to test
Thanks
Ill get back with info when I got them home and installed them
I also painted the back side of the bezel (the metal piece in front of the gauge faces) metallic silver to aid reflecting the light onto the gauge faces. The stock pale blue is just weak. Since you'll have it out anyway, it only takes a couple of minutes more.
i also have an 83 Bird- i like the way your gauges turned out- looks great. 10 of those bulbs were enough for all the gauges? i'd only be doing the gauge lights, not the indicators.
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i also have an 83 Bird- i like the way your gauges turned out- looks great. 10 of those bulbs were enough for all the gauges? i'd only be doing the gauge lights, not the indicators.
Ten for the gauge cluster and one for the HVAC controls.
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Anyway to turn the digital dash blue? my 1984 needs an overhaul.
If you take the dash apart, it is a vacuum fluorescent display wich is sealed in glass. I think the only way to change the color would be to either use some sort of filter and deal with the reduced brightness, or have a custom replacement made.
If you take the dash apart, it is a vacuum fluorescent display wich is sealed in glass. I think the only way to change the color would be to either use some sort of filter and deal with the reduced brightness, or have a custom replacement made.
Ok, I just got done swapping out all the stock 194 bulbs in the gauges for the superbright 194 LED 5-wide in red. While it does look better than stock I was hopping for more, the red is nice but it's in no way as bright as I thought it was gonna be. If I swapped out the stock gauge bezel for white faced gauges would it be brighter? Should I have bought a different bulb with more lights or what? The dimmer switch still works for the lights if anybody cares.
I also broke the plastic gauge lens while doing this, anybody know where I can get a nice one for cheap?
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Ok, I just got done swapping out all the stock 194 bulbs in the gauges for the superbright 194 LED 5-wide in red. While it does look better than stock I was hopping for more, the red is nice but it's in no way as bright as I thought it was gonna be. If I swapped out the stock gauge bezel for white faced gauges would it be brighter? Should I have bought a different bulb with more lights or what? The dimmer switch still works for the lights if anybody cares.
I also broke the plastic gauge lens while doing this, anybody know where I can get a nice one for cheap?
have any pictures? I've been thinking about doing that to my 88TA. I can't decide whether to go w/ red or white. I have white in my truck and they are very crisp and bright.
have any pictures? I've been thinking about doing that to my 88TA. I can't decide whether to go w/ red or white. I have white in my truck and they are very crisp and bright.
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I second that mesaure we need pictures!! 
