85camaro350

OK, now i have a 85 camaro and it is all primered....bought it like that....but just sanded the nose down a little because paint was chipping off...i used 220 grit, i want to re-do the primer job, looks really bad....what should i do in methods wise....wetsand first? then spray can primer it? i wanna get it ready for the paint shop....please help no one answered my last thread about it and need help....searching doesnt give me a clear answer, spell out the WHOLE method PLEASE!!!!!!!

ColdGTA

Well if you want to primer it yourself then FORGET about spray can primer. It is not compatable with automotive paint and will cause adhesion problems. That being said if you plan on having someone elese painting the car then see first if it is ok that you primer the car yourself. 99.9% of shops won't touch a car with primer on that they didn't put on because they don't know what kind of paint it is and what's under it. If you want to primer it though then go ahead and grind the car down to bare metal and do all the body work. Then shoot it with some epoxy primer from an automotive paint store. You will need a compressor and spary gun for this. After that I would suggest that you get some primer filler to help block sand the car. After you spray the primer filler mist the whole car with some rattle can black. That is your guide coat. Now you take a long board 10"-20 sanding block and sand in a criss cross motion with some 180 grit and watch the black go away. Now if there is some black left then those are the low spots and you will need to spray the filler primer again. You keep repeating that untill the panels are flat and no more black shows up. After that you can spray a thin layer of the filler primer and sand it with 400 grit wet. Then with 600 drit wet. Then clean it and spray a thin layer of the epoxy primer to seal everything and you are ready to go. You can't use spray can so for get about it. I mean you can, but when it comes time to actually paint the car you will have to sand it off. Why do it twice. That's alot of work. That's it in a nut shell, but is a little more work than it seems.

benoit454

ok quick and simple do forget the rattle can like they said it will make spray automotive paint crack and not go on right they arent compatable as other said.

west sand or da whole car w/ 220 to get all bad spots out like chips n stuff.

go to auto body supply store getcha gallon of primer and thinner i paid 40 for them both.

40 total 30 for pirmer and 7 for thinner plus taxes.

get u a spray gun fomr walamrt or lowes for botu 50 bucks.

for automotive no home imporvment use.

and then mix 50/50

use old clean coffee can do about half a can of primer then fill w/ thinner stir together n put em in yur paint guns cup.

then paint car as u would w/ areosol can.

go back n forth kinda slow get good wet coverage but not too heavy to were it run which is very hard to do unless u are movin at snails pace!1 lol

or if not coffee can then take the quart cup off yur paint gun and same thing put bout half of that full of paint and almost to top full of thinner and stir n spray.

any other ?s just ask

benoit454

also that other listing is the complete professional way to do it and more expensive and the politiclly corect way but for cheap and bout as good results and dont got time or money or what not to do all that w/ that filler primer just get regualr primer surfacer, and do what i had said.

expert body shops w/ thousand dollar paint jobs will do like the other said.

definatley takes out alot of chance for low spots but hey i didnt take min to metal just got what was on it flat n slick and scuffed w/ da 220

which means yud need a da sander and compressor for that and air gun.

u can do this w/o da just w/ wet sand 220 paper.

but for bad flakes n chips easiest way is alot of 220 da paper.

and i have recently done mine and have pics and even ym sig is one of the primered ones.

i do have befores and afters better quality not scanned tho.

and pc down will be up soon if yud like to see them

also befores can be found on my webpage just let me know if yud like to see

ColdGTA

Ummm. Primer filler is surfacer. Hints the name surfacer filler. I'm not sure if I would feel confident with paint that cost $40 total with thinner. Then again it's not my car.

85camaro350

yea, id like to see your site and your pics...wanna get all the info i can so i can do it once, the right way.....just send email at Msk8er11@aol.com thanks.....

benoit454

well i tell ya 40 bucks for gallon of primer and thinner is fine

and no the primer being mentioned in other is high build polymer type.

kind im talkin botu just primer surfacer not filler.

and paint mixes just fine w/ it and looks great.

i use a brand called centari which alot of ppl dont know about but is just as good as ppg and house of colors at half price or less.

its acrlic enamel so no top coat clear coat neded just paint reducer and hardner gloss.

thats all n its great paint last for long long time and stays shiny forever almost it gets dull u can buff it right out to like new condition.

ill have to sned u link to my site of the before pics havent yet got any good after primered ones just digital cam ones.

and got befores in dig and 35 mm and got afters in 35 mm in camara now need take botu 10 more pics n send roll off

85camaro350

well right now im pretty sure that it has rattle can primer...not totally certain tho....so do i just sand down to bare metal and prime it right?

89cmrodriver

u really dont need to sand down to bare metal, only in places u plan to put filler (dont have to, but its a good idea) And whoever said rattle can primer wont work because automotive paint wont stick to it. Since from experiance i know IT WILL STICK TO IT, its OK to use, but spray gun primer is better.

85camaro350

ok now i have someone telling me its ok to rattle can it, and someone saying its not....can someone find out for sure??? LOL

89cmrodriver

im 100% for sure, ive rattle canned 3 cars, and all 3 turned out great.

85camaro350

where did u get your car painted? im getting mine done at maaco

89cmrodriver

they were painted at macco.

85camaro350

well is there a really good kind of rattle can primer?? whats the best?

Red87SC

i used rustoleum (sp?) stuff worked great, make sure you take off as much of the stock paint as u can with sandpaper. i used 220 to get off the paint. then i did all the primering and filing and all that good stuff. after it was done i went over the car with 600 then i sold the car, so whoever bought it, they get to deal with imperfect body work. too bad for him

ColdGTA

Ok if you really want to find out about rattle can primer before you fork out for some nice car paint then go to www.autobodystore.com and ask them that you want to use some rattle can primer. See what happens. I have seen the effects in person with urethane paint, but apparently that stuff is awesome and body shops don't know what they are missing. Oh well. Anyway those guys at auto body store are alot more schooled than I am and they will give you all kinds of reasons to use or not to use. Good luck. Do it once do it right.

benoit454

ok ive used rattle can primer then shot automotive paint over it .
automotive paint mixed at body supply shop in spray can never from spray gun.

on other hand main thing im talkin about is i test painted some stripes on my car w/ rattle can black paint...

and when i redone the primer over them all i down was knocked the shine off em to dull em down w/ 220 dad and primed it w/ spray gun and it cracked open badly completely seperated.

and for what u pay for rattle cans and pay for enough to do the car youd done had enough to buy gallon of good primer and thinner

which is like 40 bucks for good automotive body shop supply store kind.

that works great

i wouldnt paint my car in rattle can paint because if u shoot auto paint over it itll crack yud have do like i did and sand all rattle can plum off. and rattle can paint just dont shine and look as good as automotive.

with that said rattle can primer then auto paint over it?

should work ok if u just want primer a spot here n there then paint it.

but if u want prime whole car id get a gallon.

only really good rattle can apint made is by body shop supply store they thin and mix automotive paint in an aresol weeve done every acessory on our s10 and everythgin on truck accept for front clip in it and it works perfect.

and shines great

so what i had said before bout rattle can goes for the paint not primer.

primer would be ok i guess but id try buy it fomr like autozone or something and not like walmart kind for like a dollar a can. i dont think that would work good. but rustoleum? i dunno never used it and what u pay for it u can buy good can fomr auto supply store n know itl be alright.

89cmrodriver

I used whatever they have at advance for $2.19 a can. Took about 8 cans.

Red87SC

well rustoleum was about 3.50 a can. and there are to automotive paint supply stores areound so its kinda hard to get good stuff. o well i sold the car, its someone else's problem now