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Old 12-03-2008, 10:11 PM   #1501
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freaking a neil...i want to pay you to go for a ride one day.this is the ultimate 3rd gen and a bad *** car period. we need to contact a national magazine,get this sucker exposed and into the public light.the world must know about this car.its far and above unique and in a world of its own.
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exhaust is looking wild!
dual 3"?
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freaking a neil...i want to pay you to go for a ride one day.this is the ultimate 3rd gen and a bad *** car period. we need to contact a national magazine,get this sucker exposed and into the public light.the world must know about this car.its far and above unique and in a world of its own.
Thanks man! That was one hell of a compliment and yes getting this car in a magazine would be cool! I also would like to get it into SEMA next year, we'll see???
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So the guy doing the exhaust is in Dallas?
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Well, you know Jim would say the same thing I'm gonna...... We need to tweak it a bit before sema....

ie.. media blast / paint / or powder coat: rear end, sway bars, brackets, panhard bar, tranny x-member, and any rusty screws/bolts/plugs, polish diff cover, fix or replace the screw holding on the center ground effect in rear area or find better way of attaching, send car back to paint shop for touch-ups and detailing, have entire exhaust jet-hot coated, install tru-trac and intake, interior upholstery, new shocks and or struts and or air-ride, tune DFI (my friend with the turbo stang is a wiz at FAST XFI, we need to build a custom cold air intake once manifold is in place, might have to make the A/C lines, etc.. etc..

I'm sure there are some things that I missed, but that's all I can think of at the moment.

I also think the GMMG setup in the rear would look and sound killer. Fatal88 has it on his LS-1 vert, sounds awesome!

Anywho, it's looking pretty damn good!

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Neil looks great so far BUT and I really hate to say this but that cross member is going to flex ALOT. Ive built a couple and you really need to have better vertical support. yours is like a cantilever and its going to put ALOT of stress on the forward mounting holes, they aren’t meant to take torsional stress like that and will fatigue the metal around the bolt. Also the flat piece that mounts to the tranny will need to be reinforced that will flex and deform… The idea looks good you just need to reinforce the area perpendicular to where the tranny mounts, just reinforce it in the vertical direction and any and all flex should be taken care of.

Also on the wiring location, your going to hate life if you leave it like that and drive in the rain. While the fender liners do a good job they don’t completely seal that front area and you will get splashing up there. If you keep it in that area you need to put the connectors in a sealed and vented box. I would recommend looking at another option.

If you could find a way to put the large connectors inside the passenger compartment and then inside the car drill through the floor into the frame rail and then run the wires for the fans and lights up through the frame rail to the front bumper you would completely get rid of ALL the wiring in the engine bay/wheel well. This might require you to get creative and may need to lengthen some of the wires but itll be a MUCH cleaner look and itll put the connector block in the passenger compartment which is much better since im pretty sure it isn’t a weather proof setup.


other than that constructive critisism your **** is kicking *** and taking names! keep it up!

EDIT: and dude get these up on a picture hosting site so I can scroll through them without having to weed through all the posts!! PLEASE!!

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Well, you know Jim would say the same thing I'm gonna...... We need to tweak it a bit before sema....

ie.. media blast / paint / or powder coat: rear end, sway bars, brackets, panhard bar, tranny x-member, and any rusty screws/bolts/plugs, polish diff cover, fix or replace the screw holding on the center ground effect in rear area or find better way of attaching, send car back to paint shop for touch-ups and detailing, have entire exhaust jet-hot coated, install tru-trac and intake, interior upholstery, new shocks and or struts and or air-ride, tune DFI (my friend with the turbo stang is a wiz at FAST XFI, we need to build a custom cold air intake once manifold is in place, might have to make the A/C lines, etc.. etc..

I'm sure there are some things that I missed, but that's all I can think of at the moment.

I also think the GMMG setup in the rear would look and sound killer. Fatal88 has it on his LS-1 vert, sounds awesome!

Anywho, it's looking pretty damn good!

I'll call you after work tomorrow
Thanks dude and yes, all the items you have list are in progress or will be done, well most...not all of the things you mentioned...NO AIR RIDE. Coil overs are going over in the rear. For now, I won't jet hot the exhaust, maybe later after I drive it for a while. Oh and I already have MagnaFlo Mufflers which will I will be running!
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Neil looks great so far BUT and I really hate to say this but that cross member is going to flex ALOT. Ive built a couple and you really need to have better vertical support. yours is like a cantilever and its going to put ALOT of stress on the forward mounting holes, they aren’t meant to take torsional stress like that and will fatigue the metal around the bolt. Also the flat piece that mounts to the tranny will need to be reinforced that will flex and deform… The idea looks good you just need to reinforce the area perpendicular to where the tranny mounts, just reinforce it in the vertical direction and any and all flex should be taken care of.

Also on the wiring location, your going to hate life if you leave it like that and drive in the rain. While the fender liners do a good job they don’t completely seal that front area and you will get splashing up there. If you keep it in that area you need to put the connectors in a sealed and vented box. I would recommend looking at another option.

If you could find a way to put the large connectors inside the passenger compartment and then inside the car drill through the floor into the frame rail and then run the wires for the fans and lights up through the frame rail to the front bumper you would completely get rid of ALL the wiring in the engine bay/wheel well. This might require you to get creative and may need to lengthen some of the wires but itll be a MUCH cleaner look and itll put the connector block in the passenger compartment which is much better since im pretty sure it isn’t a weather proof setup.


other than that constructive critisism your **** is kicking *** and taking names! keep it up!

EDIT: and dude get these up on a picture hosting site so I can scroll through them without having to weed through all the posts!! PLEASE!!
Thanks very much for the input! Constructive criticism is very good and can be very helpful. I will talk to the fabricator about strengthening the transmission crossmember before I have it powder coated.

As for the fuse boxes, yeah, I will definitely cover them up and shield them as best I can against water. I was thinking of making an aluminum cover which would completely seal in the fuse boxes from underspray and then add the plastic inner fender liner. Once I get the car back i'll spend some time with that and try and figure something out.

But hey, I am open to ideas!!!
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The pictures you guys have been seeing are only progress pictures ! So Yes the trans mount looks weak, because it is weak...but is isnt finished. If you notice the mandrel bends arent welded up either, but no one mentioned that
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Duuuuude...this is unreal. It saddens me that my car will never be 1/4th as good as this.
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Thanks man! I just can't wait until the engine fires up for the first time!!!
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I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas! I have updates for you on the exhaust system and modification to the k-member which was needed in order to drop the oil pan. I have to remove the oil pan because the bell housing plate was preventing the oil pan from sealing properly...the rear oil pan rail was pressed too tightly up against the bellhousing plate and residual oil in the engine (from assembly) was leaking from that location. Sucks this happened, but at least I found out now rather than later. John did an excellent job in modifying the k-member to allow removal of the oil pan wiht the engine in the car, cause I did not want to have to remove the engine this soon!

Here are pics of the powder coated upper/lower PH bars. John fabricated the upper bar to provide good clearance for the exhaust. The powder coat appears washout from the flash, but it is a nice silver. I will have the sway bar and lower control arms powder coated in silver as well.
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The trans crossmember powder coated in gloss black. Note, additional gussets were added to strengthen the brace even more. It looks very solid!

Also, a pic of the header tube with the welds smoothed.
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Both Magnaflows installed.
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Modified K-member pics. The first pic shows the center section removed (cut out) and then John's fabricated, much stronger piece installed. It is a bolt in section which will allow oil pan removal . Note, the oil pan is not flush with the block, only a few bolts are holding it in, so it appears as if the center section is not straight or parallel, but it is.
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lookin mighty fine Neil!!
I bet your going to have permagrin when this car is finally up and running!
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It's looking pretty bada$$ !!

But, just noticed....

Post #1518 , 1st pic, it's looks like the passenger side muffler needs to be moved a couple of inches towards the outside (driver tip is directly under the amber turn signal, passenger tip is directly under the reverse light).....

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Thanks man! That was one hell of a compliment and yes getting this car in a magazine would be cool! I also would like to get it into SEMA next year, we'll see???
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Thanks and yes, it is a dual 3" system.
Do have any magazine ties yet? I'll see if I can't get someone to check this thread out and maybe get a hold of you.
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I wouldn't put the tips on until the spare-tire well can be scalloped out in order to make room to move the passenger side muffler. When that's done, I would use Corsa double walled stainless dual tips on each side. Corsa makes some pretty nice tips.

The tru-trak you want should be available soon.
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Niel....You aren't running rear lower control arm relocation brackets?
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Niel....You aren't running rear lower control arm relocation brackets?
I will be. I actually have them at home, so when I get the car back i'll put them on.
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No, I don't know anyone with the big magazines. That would be great if you could introduce your connections to this thread and see what they think.
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It's looking pretty bada$$ !!

But, just noticed....

Post #1518 , 1st pic, it's looks like the passenger side muffler needs to be moved a couple of inches towards the outside (driver tip is directly under the amber turn signal, passenger tip is directly under the reverse light).....

I'll call ya in the morning.
The Muffler is not equal side to side to offset the drivers weight in the car....
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What kind of k member was that before it was modified?
The car is looking great.
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What kind of k member was that before it was modified?
The car is looking great.
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I almost forgot, here are pics of the rear coilovers installed. They are the QA1 double adjustable coilovers.

Just so you guys know, I do plan on cleaning up the rear end housing & cover (will probably use POR-15 on it), will replace the sway bar end links (bushings are shot), powdercoat the LCAs silver as well as the sway bars (front and rear) to match the recently powdercoated panhard bars. Also, will install the LCA relocation brackets (weld in).
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This car of yours is going to be the ultimate 3rdgen, you know that right? Awesome build! Keep the mods and pics coming!
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I almost forgot, here are pics of the rear coilovers installed. They are the QA1 double adjustable coilovers.

Just so you guys know, I do plan on cleaning up the rear end housing & cover (will probably use POR-15 on it), will replace the sway bar end links (bushings are shot), powdercoat the LCAs silver as well as the sway bars (front and rear) to match the recently powdercoated panhard bars. Also, will install the LCA relocation brackets (weld in).
Just got me the same coil overs installed as well

Nice job Neil, I am excited to start a thread on my build in 3-4 weeks but it will be too hard to out do you but I will try
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amazing job.. diggin the dual exhaust set up
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I know you hear it all the time, but WOW, great job!!!
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where in the hell is there a video of this beast!?!?!?!
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yea... good point!!

can we get someone to film a video of this!!!!
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Neil, you may remember me from such posts as....

Really... she is beautiful, is she available for a date on a friday night? I'll serve a drink of her choice, 103+, or perhaps some home brewn 93 and nitro methanol? I know, a car can dream right? She deserves the best. ha before you know it your car will have stalkers and you'll be chasing after guys, and girls that are caught in local parking lots dry humping the hood of that beast on 4 wheels. Dont be surprised when the 83 year old man on the corner goes 'oh my goodness' when you light the tires up one time, and he jumps on the hood!

Still impressed by your craftsmanship, can hardly wait to see the videos of the first 'roll out of the shop' experience! I know...
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ok i hate to be one of these guys that ask questions that have prolly been answer'd but did we ever get an intake for the car? ive been dyin to see it.
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amazing job.. diggin the dual exhaust set up
Thanks and your car is lookin' pretty bad a$$!!!
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can we get someone to film a video of this!!!!
Well, I don't have a video camera yet. I was going to wait until just before I fire the engine up to buy one. So, in the next couple of months i'll put some video's up

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Neil, you may remember me from such posts as....

Really... she is beautiful, is she available for a date on a friday night? I'll serve a drink of her choice, 103+, or perhaps some home brewn 93 and nitro methanol? I know, a car can dream right? She deserves the best. ha before you know it your car will have stalkers and you'll be chasing after guys, and girls that are caught in local parking lots dry humping the hood of that beast on 4 wheels. Dont be surprised when the 83 year old man on the corner goes 'oh my goodness' when you light the tires up one time, and he jumps on the hood!

Still impressed by your craftsmanship, can hardly wait to see the videos of the first 'roll out of the shop' experience! I know...
Dude, that was too funny! Well, I actually got the car back from the fab shop yesterday and got her cleaned up and will start flaring the brake lines this week! Anyone know if it's possible to powder coat the brake booster without messing up the internal components. If so, give me your opinion, should I powder coat it a satin black or silver (same silver on the panhard bars)? The master cylinder is polished billet aluminum, so what do you think?
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ok i hate to be one of these guys that ask questions that have prolly been answer'd but did we ever get an intake for the car? ive been dyin to see it.
No, I haven't ordered the intake yet....it will be a Hogan intake with a Ford GT throttle body . I should have it ordered by the end of the week and i'll update you guys as to when I should receive it.
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No, I haven't ordered the intake yet....it will be a Hogan intake with a Ford GT throttle body . I should have it ordered by the end of the week and i'll update you guys as to when I should receive it.
I loved the look of his single carb intake so i took a look at his price list. Am i reading this rite at $2,xxx?
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Yep.... Some sheet metal intakes are upto $3,xxx.
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so i saw this thread on the "new posts" section. that was at 7:04 pm. its 12:12 AM now. HOLY CRAP! i havent read this much since high school. crazy crazy crazy. unfortunately when i started reading i actually expected this to be done. dissapointed but i know good things come in time

but seriously though.. please finish quickly

lol good luck Neil, hope things kinda turn around for you and you have TIME to work. ill keep waitin for updates
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that exhaust is sweet.
i love the the rear view exhaust shot.
thats all people will be seeing of this car any way, so it should look good i guess.


do you have a full exhaust shot yet?
from underneath


sweet car
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I finally made a little progress this weekend. First, I made some wood blocks from 2x12's in order to get the car high enough off the ground (with the suspension comressed) so I could properly measure for the driveshaft which I will order from Denny's Driveshafts tomorrow a.m. Also measured for the intake manifold and I will order that tomorrow as well......I am hoping to make some faster progress now! Oh, also installed the wiper motor and included a few more pics of the new headers.
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Here are pics of the SSBC billet master cylinder installed (not primed with fluid yet). This week and into the weekend I will begin routing the brake line and flaring. I have been saying this to friends for weeks, but I will defintitely be worlking on it!
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that exhaust is sweet.
i love the the rear view exhaust shot.
thats all people will be seeing of this car any way, so it should look good i guess.


do you have a full exhaust shot yet?
from underneath


sweet car
Thanks! But, I will be "tweaking" the exhaust tips once the car is alive. The tips currently are too long for my liking.

I will take a full exhaust shot and post in a dew days.
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thats lookin good. i realllllly wanna see it done lol. how much work do you have left and when do you think youll get it finished?
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