I'm getting tired of the way my car looks. I have to replace my passenger fender, front bumper cover, and hood since they are all messed up pretty bad. I like the look of flat black primer and have been thinking that after I get my body parts I'd prime the car and leave it that way. I did some research on here and found that epoxy primer is the best way to go. However I read a lot of posts that said the primer will not protect the car from rust, and has a good chance of staining n what not. I don't want my car to rust out and become severly damaged. I really want to replace the body parts since I'm going to be comuting to school again starting in september I'd like my car to look better. I'm limited on time and money so I figured since I really like the look of the flat black primer anyway maybe I could paint it like that myself for now. What do you guys think. Also I'll try to get some pics of my car later today

I second blindreapers request, my car is in arizona and getting severe 'cancer' on the hatch near the spoiler & the poor paint job on it; paint flaking off the trim pieces; damn pissing me off; plus add in the replacement front clip (red, my car is blue) and the replacement hood (painted black!), my car doesn't look all that great. Would like to have it painted later but no time right now. I also considered just primering things but would like to know what the best way would be without having my car rust apart.

Primer retains moisture from what I have heard,which will promote rust.It will also fade at different rates in different places and looks like *** over time.Guy next door to me painted his truck what he said was Jessie James black it looks like flat black but is actually paint.Lot of the old gasser style hot rodders use this style paint for their cars.

After the primer, use flat black for your top coat instead of gloss. You'll get the look you want & the protection you need.

what kind of flat black? Where do you get the paint wvabreeze is talking about?



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thats how my daily driver looks at the moment and i'd like to replace all the body parts n keep it flat black

An automotive paint supplier can get you a flat black, just like he would a gloss black.

There's no such thing as flat black and gloss black automotive paint. The glossiness actually comes from the clearcoat, not the base color.

You can use a black primer. Not recomended though. Eventually it will fade and oxidize (white chalkiness).

The proper way to do a flat paint job is to use a flattening agent in the clear coat. You use normal base color and normal clear. The flattening agent can be added in different amounts to get a desired amounts of "flatness". ( I.E. satin, semi-gloss, eggshell, flat.)

I have done quite a few of these on motrcycles and hot rods. The biggest problem with these flat jobs is imperfections can't be buffed out. Dirt doesn't really show in the final product but runs can't be removed.

Hope some of this helps.

Thanks that helps alot I had read that before also. What would be a good website to price paint?

I like the Matrix Systems products. They are fairly inexpensive, as far as paint goes. It is kind of an up and coming company. They have a nice website too. www.matrixsystem.com

I have been using their products for a few years and really like it. It is very similiar to PPG.

As far as pricing, I don't really know a website for that. I just always go down to the paint store for it.

Hey man, i think i know you. <br><br>I believe we have raced before on 51 and ive seen you a couple times around BV.

Anyway, I have two reccomendations for you.

One is, Napa Auto parts in north belle vernon is decently priced and the paint they carry isn't bad.

Also, Kellys auto on 201 has some kind of software that you can take them any color you can find no matter what the material is and they will put it into a computer which will figure out exactly what paint to mix to get the color you want.

They had a absolute perfect match on my orange car, i just haven't had the time to repaint it.

See ya on the roads man

Thanks for the info man. I'm from philly thow but theres plenty of napa auto parts places arround here I'll have to go check them out. I remember reading a thread called the 250 dollar paint job or sumthing like that. I searched for it and the guy deleted all his posts off it. There was a lot of good info on painting your car yourself and where n what suipplies to get.

See where you also have some 'cancer' on the hatch near the spoiler. Mine hasn't spread to the top parts and it sort of bubbles on the ground effects. Think they didn't use an adhesion promoter on the plastics.

realized it was a must when i first tried to primer my plastics and it just sloughed off.

yea if you do drive your car in primer you are begging for rust...
It retains water and causes rust.