Ive seen this car parked around town at bars, then my friend put this pic up on her facebook from a parade and its just killing me what kind of conversion this is. Its either a kit car with camaro doors and windshield, or a hacked up camaro, either way, Im just curious if this is completely custom or if some company actually made these. the nose looks like an old rolls royce. If i see it around town ill take some pix of it myself.

I believe it is a kit car using a Camaro as a donor vehicle. You'd have to do some looking thru kit manufacturers or KIT CAR magazine to find out what it's called. It's one of the nicer conversion kits out there, but still blasphemy if you ask me to destroy a perfectly good F-Body.

Looks like the Excalibar kit from some years ago.

the johnson phantom.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

thanks for fueling my google fire!

I personally dont like it. its unique, and the only reason it caught my attention was because it was a fellow marrow lol.

the only thing that stands out to me on the car is the tan dash pad.

did any third gens come stock with anyhting but black?

it looks like a knockoff of a replica car made in the late 70's early 80's - the stutz bearcat.

What a waste of good thirdgen parts.

R.I.P poor little maro I hate those things.

I've seen pics of those on this site before. I'm amazed at how far forward they positioned the front wheels. I bet the whole thing is sitting on a full frame and only the firewall to somewhere in the middle of the b-pillar is utilized from the thirdgen. From all we can tell, it could've also been a firebird that was cut up. For what they used it for, I don't see it making much of a difference.

have seen the same thing using a Rustang too. As in the Rustang, the only thing denoting it as a Mustang donor was the doors and windshield line..
Such a waste... Couldn't they do this with like a Pontiac 6000 or a cavalier? lol

Hey easy there on the rustang

I've seen em used too. Jessie James had one of these one Monster Garage, I think he said what a waste of a car.LOL

Maybe they should have used an early 80s Buick Rivera.

Hate is a strong word Tony

I hate (told ya Tony) replica cars. It's as bad as buying an RS camaro and cloning it as an IROC...as all the money spent and time used in doing so would have aided in getting the real car, not a fake/replica.

I'm with you on the clones.The only car ever I'd consider cloning is a 69 Daytona or 70 Superbird.Only because the cost of one is so sky high,and two the ones that are out there are mostly in museums,although there's a blue one that shows up at the cruise night over here.

Yea, the price on superbird is retarded. My old boss bought one for $30,000.Went and got it out of a field. The car was all there minus the nose. Was originaly a yellow car with the 440 manual. He started looking at it and someone had put in a 383 auto. It was rough! the spoiler was broke in half and looked like poo! but now he restored it to all numbers matching. I heard he got offered $115,000 for it! He didn't take the offer of course. But I'd say he's got that in it. Man.... I wish I had that much money... My camaro would be sweet!
But on the topic of the kit car... Being a fiberglass shell and having the camaro platform on a kit car is nice. It just sucks that they cut one up for it. But who'd want to go thru all that trouble to putt around in a 4-cyl. It'd be sweet with a supercharger on it. LOL!

at least that 3rd gen conversion is tasteful, unlike this
http://www.bobsclassics.com/sold/86zq.htm

Dood!

What in the wide wide world of sports is goin on here.

Did that car just get converted to look like an 80's Olds/Buick? Really? I think i'm gonna convert my Firebird to look like an Escort now... that'd be cool, right?

that's the strangest fiero kit car I've ever seen.

Nothing is as bad as the C3 Corvette Batmobile conversion

.....at least the paint looks nice

I'm with Tony. Poor little Maro is right!
You know, the problem with some of these people is they have more dollars than sense. Sheesh!

All the dash pads (I know as far as Camaros go) were black. This is due to the large flat surface of the dash combined with the steep angle of the windshield. Sunlight reflection off the dash onto the windshield was found to be bad enough to be a dangerous safety issue with other colours.
Even with black you're sometimes staring at a reflection of the dash in the glass while trying to drive.

Regarding those kits above . . . they do look well made ugliness.

i think itd b cool to drive around in that... well it would be at first anyways lol

the batmobile is different though.
i'd drive a batmobile any day.

all the others...
wow, terrible

That car is a Zimmer Quicksilver based on a Fiero. Made in Pompano Beach Fl. 84 to 88 IIRC By the Zimmer Coach company. Those guys did a bunch of stuff like the Excaliber car, RVs, motor homes, van conversions, buses, campers etc.

They went broke in the late 80s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmer_(automobile)

But in 96 a guy in Syracuse NY named Art Zimmer bought the name and rights and started building a new edition of the Excaliber. This one is based on a new Lincoln Town car that they modify.
Some hack body shop in Syracuse does the mods!
http://www.zimmermotorcars.com/

There's a guy here in Windsor that does Fiero conversions, and turns them into "Ferrari's". He's pretty good at it too, he's done a couple for some of the big Hollywood movies, so the producers didn't have to go out and buy a $200000 Ferrari and smash it.

There's at least 1 Fiero with a lamborghini countach kit on it around here. The worst part is I think they guy tells people around town it's a real countach...

That first kit I've also seen around here, but it's on an 80's Cougar, they must've made them for many different cars.

while that maybe true......at least batman rides american muscle

I think thats a fiero. In which case who cares what they did to it.

i don't know but to me the only kit car thats worth doing is the Shelby Cobra replica which uses a 87-93 fox body mustang as a doner i believe.....but really your only using the frame....not saying i like fords....but a shelby is pretty bad a$$ even if it is a replica

That's not even necessary. You can buy all the parts in a kit to build one yourself. You can even get replica bodies in aluminum or fiberglass.

What's wrong with Fireo's? They're one of the coolest cars GM made in the last 20 years IMO, just like mini Firebirds. And I;m not so sure that is a Fiero, the wheelbase looks way too long for that.

i guess its better being a kit car than being melted down and molded into disposable honda parts.

...until people pointed fingers and laughed. lol

IMO it's a build it and sell it fast! lol

I don't know, that car has character....throw some bigger wheels on it and it would look pretty cool.

Put it this way it's different.....if I was at a gas station and seen this pumping gas or a 3rd gen pumping gas, I would be more inclined to talk to the owner about this car anyday.

3rd gen cars have my respect, but they are a dime a dozen and you can see them any day. But customs are something that draw attention both good and bad.

touche.. However that car or a nice running nicely painted 3rd gen, who are the girls going to want to go for a drive with? lol

I wonder if all that kit added on effects the performance

Don't matter to me, I'm married and my wife rides in whatever I drive

I owned my 88 Trans Am for six months and a really fun car to drive and not once did anyone comment or give me a thumbs up while I had the car out - it blended in with all the other cars on the road.

I traded for a 76 camaro and within 30 minutes of driving home I got a thumbs up at a stoplight and a guy walked up to me while I was pumping gas to shoot the bull about the car.

And my 82 corvette get's stares and smiles everywhere I go....just never got a lot of attention with my third gen

A dealer had this conversion for sale. But they used a firebird not a maro. Up close, I personally think it looks cool, but completely undriveable. When you sit in it, because the nose is so long, thats about all you see, but then theres another few feet that you still don't see. You would have to be around the car in person to know what I'm saying lol. But to say the least, the nose is friggin huge! And if not fabricated right, they sag... which was the case at this dealer!

86 Daytona SuperBird

Agreed. I've got one in my driveway. They are cool cars in their own right.

Here are some more pix of what someone called an Excalibur...

Technically I think it is a Johnson Phantom... At least thats what this one was called by the nameplate

This car was registered as a 1989 Johnson Phantom, but was based on a TPI 1985 Trans Am... There was the VIN for both...

the Nameplate & VIN tag

Now THATS cool!

it actually looks good

Anyone with Carfax wanna run that VIN? They've got 3 records on it; wierd.

is that a photoshop of a 91 -92 firebird? the lettering and spoiler are obvious the front bumper is what confuses me. i am gonna take a guess that its a 91-92 firebird that has been smoothed and had the black sections added on am right?
that wouldn't be to hard to make for real. http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/im...ilies/wink.gif

Yes, someone here long ago photo chopped it for me, I always thought the Birds have lots of similar lines to them Dodges. [And I hate that 91-92 nose.]

And id build it, if it wouldn't bo so much work and a reproduced nose and wing for one of those is big buck, then you gotta cut it up. Which means probably paying a real pricy pro so its seemless and right.

It would be sick, till ya forgot ya had that 6ft tall wing and knocked it off one day in a drive thru n pull a Joe Dirt

You can see the lights in the Daytona nose would be used, not the ones up higher, he just erased the lines but id use the stock location ones for dual intake fresh air ports. Part could even be use for the front brakes. Make it look like its ready for 200MPH,then do it

Thought it out allot but to much $$$$, done gone the Euro / Ferrair look, only big expense is $1000 on glass wide body rear fenders, but they also stop me from having to replace the rear quarter skins, I can hack the cancer out of it, protect and cover for none to see ever again.