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Old 07-14-2009, 02:42 AM   #1
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what in the world is this conversion?

Ive seen this car parked around town at bars, then my friend put this pic up on her facebook from a parade and its just killing me what kind of conversion this is.



Its either a kit car with camaro doors and windshield, or a hacked up camaro, either way, Im just curious if this is completely custom or if some company actually made these.

the nose looks like an old rolls royce. If i see it around town ill take some pix of it myself.
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I believe it is a kit car using a Camaro as a donor vehicle. You'd have to do some looking thru kit manufacturers or KIT CAR magazine to find out what it's called. It's one of the nicer conversion kits out there, but still blasphemy if you ask me to destroy a perfectly good F-Body.
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:44 PM   #3
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Looks like the Excalibar kit from some years ago.
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:34 AM   #4
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Re: what in the world is this conversion?

the johnson phantom.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

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thanks for fueling my google fire!

I personally dont like it. its unique, and the only reason it caught my attention was because it was a fellow marrow lol.
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the only thing that stands out to me on the car is the tan dash pad.

did any third gens come stock with anyhting but black?
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it looks like a knockoff of a replica car made in the late 70's early 80's - the stutz bearcat.
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What a waste of good thirdgen parts.
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R.I.P poor little maro I hate those things.
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Old 07-15-2009, 02:01 PM   #9
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I've seen pics of those on this site before. I'm amazed at how far forward they positioned the front wheels. I bet the whole thing is sitting on a full frame and only the firewall to somewhere in the middle of the b-pillar is utilized from the thirdgen. From all we can tell, it could've also been a firebird that was cut up. For what they used it for, I don't see it making much of a difference.
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Re: what in the world is this conversion?

have seen the same thing using a Rustang too. As in the Rustang, the only thing denoting it as a Mustang donor was the doors and windshield line..
Such a waste... Couldn't they do this with like a Pontiac 6000 or a cavalier? lol
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have seen the same thing using a Rustang too. As in the Rustang, the only thing denoting it as a Mustang donor was the doors and windshield line..
Such a waste... Couldn't they do this with like a Pontiac 6000 or a cavalier? lol
Hey easy there on the rustang

I've seen em used too. Jessie James had one of these one Monster Garage, I think he said what a waste of a car.LOL
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Maybe they should have used an early 80s Buick Rivera.
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Hate is a strong word Tony

I hate (told ya Tony) replica cars. It's as bad as buying an RS camaro and cloning it as an IROC...as all the money spent and time used in doing so would have aided in getting the real car, not a fake/replica.
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Hate is a strong word Tony

That's why I said it.

I hate (told ya Tony) replica cars. It's as bad as buying an RS camaro and cloning it as an IROC...as all the money spent and time used in doing so would have aided in getting the real car, not a fake/replica.
I'm with you on the clones.The only car ever I'd consider cloning is a 69 Daytona or 70 Superbird.Only because the cost of one is so sky high,and two the ones that are out there are mostly in museums,although there's a blue one that shows up at the cruise night over here.
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Yea, the price on superbird is retarded. My old boss bought one for $30,000.Went and got it out of a field. The car was all there minus the nose. Was originaly a yellow car with the 440 manual. He started looking at it and someone had put in a 383 auto. It was rough! the spoiler was broke in half and looked like poo! but now he restored it to all numbers matching. I heard he got offered $115,000 for it! He didn't take the offer of course. But I'd say he's got that in it. Man.... I wish I had that much money... My camaro would be sweet!
But on the topic of the kit car... Being a fiberglass shell and having the camaro platform on a kit car is nice. It just sucks that they cut one up for it. But who'd want to go thru all that trouble to putt around in a 4-cyl. It'd be sweet with a supercharger on it. LOL!
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at least that 3rd gen conversion is tasteful, unlike this
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Dood!
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What in the wide wide world of sports is goin on here.
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Did that car just get converted to look like an 80's Olds/Buick? Really? I think i'm gonna convert my Firebird to look like an Escort now... that'd be cool, right?
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that's the strangest fiero kit car I've ever seen.
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Nothing is as bad as the C3 Corvette Batmobile conversion

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.....at least the paint looks nice
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I'm with Tony. Poor little Maro is right!
You know, the problem with some of these people is they have more dollars than sense. Sheesh!
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the only thing that stands out to me on the car is the tan dash pad.

did any third gens come stock with anyhting but black?
All the dash pads (I know as far as Camaros go) were black. This is due to the large flat surface of the dash combined with the steep angle of the windshield. Sunlight reflection off the dash onto the windshield was found to be bad enough to be a dangerous safety issue with other colours.
Even with black you're sometimes staring at a reflection of the dash in the glass while trying to drive.

Regarding those kits above . . . they do look well made ugliness.
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i think itd b cool to drive around in that... well it would be at first anyways lol
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the batmobile is different though.
i'd drive a batmobile any day.

all the others...
wow, terrible
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That car is a Zimmer Quicksilver based on a Fiero. Made in Pompano Beach Fl. 84 to 88 IIRC By the Zimmer Coach company. Those guys did a bunch of stuff like the Excaliber car, RVs, motor homes, van conversions, buses, campers etc.

They went broke in the late 80s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmer_(automobile)

But in 96 a guy in Syracuse NY named Art Zimmer bought the name and rights and started building a new edition of the Excaliber. This one is based on a new Lincoln Town car that they modify.
Some hack body shop in Syracuse does the mods!
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There's a guy here in Windsor that does Fiero conversions, and turns them into "Ferrari's". He's pretty good at it too, he's done a couple for some of the big Hollywood movies, so the producers didn't have to go out and buy a $200000 Ferrari and smash it.
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There's at least 1 Fiero with a lamborghini countach kit on it around here. The worst part is I think they guy tells people around town it's a real countach...

That first kit I've also seen around here, but it's on an 80's Cougar, they must've made them for many different cars.
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.....at least the paint looks nice

while that maybe true......at least batman rides american muscle
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Did that car just get converted to look like an 80's Olds/Buick? Really? I think i'm gonna convert my Firebird to look like an Escort now... that'd be cool, right?
I think thats a fiero. In which case who cares what they did to it.
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i don't know but to me the only kit car thats worth doing is the Shelby Cobra replica which uses a 87-93 fox body mustang as a doner i believe.....but really your only using the frame....not saying i like fords....but a shelby is pretty bad a$$ even if it is a replica
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i don't know but to me the only kit car thats worth doing is the Shelby Cobra replica which uses a 87-93 fox body mustang as a doner i believe.....but really your only using the frame....not saying i like fords....but a shelby is pretty bad a$$ even if it is a replica
That's not even necessary. You can buy all the parts in a kit to build one yourself. You can even get replica bodies in aluminum or fiberglass.
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I think thats a fiero. In which case who cares what they did to it.
What's wrong with Fireo's? They're one of the coolest cars GM made in the last 20 years IMO, just like mini Firebirds. And I;m not so sure that is a Fiero, the wheelbase looks way too long for that.
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i guess its better being a kit car than being melted down and molded into disposable honda parts.
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i think itd b cool to drive around in that... well it would be at first anyways lol

...until people pointed fingers and laughed. lol

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at least that 3rd gen conversion is tasteful, unlike this
http://www.bobsclassics.com/sold/86zq.htm
I don't know, that car has character....throw some bigger wheels on it and it would look pretty cool.

Put it this way it's different.....if I was at a gas station and seen this pumping gas or a 3rd gen pumping gas, I would be more inclined to talk to the owner about this car anyday.

3rd gen cars have my respect, but they are a dime a dozen and you can see them any day. But customs are something that draw attention both good and bad.

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touche.. However that car or a nice running nicely painted 3rd gen, who are the girls going to want to go for a drive with? lol
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I wonder if all that kit added on effects the performance
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touche.. However that car or a nice running nicely painted 3rd gen, who are the girls going to want to go for a drive with? lol
Don't matter to me, I'm married and my wife rides in whatever I drive

I owned my 88 Trans Am for six months and a really fun car to drive and not once did anyone comment or give me a thumbs up while I had the car out - it blended in with all the other cars on the road.

I traded for a 76 camaro and within 30 minutes of driving home I got a thumbs up at a stoplight and a guy walked up to me while I was pumping gas to shoot the bull about the car.

And my 82 corvette get's stares and smiles everywhere I go....just never got a lot of attention with my third gen
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A dealer had this conversion for sale. But they used a firebird not a maro. Up close, I personally think it looks cool, but completely undriveable. When you sit in it, because the nose is so long, thats about all you see, but then theres another few feet that you still don't see. You would have to be around the car in person to know what I'm saying lol. But to say the least, the nose is friggin huge! And if not fabricated right, they sag... which was the case at this dealer!
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