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Old 11-15-2003, 08:26 PM   #1
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how big of a job to replace all break lines?

ive got a leaking wheel cylinder in the back left and a major leak up front so im going to replace all the break lines threw out the car all the way up to the master cylinder cause i want it to last i will be doing it on a lift so that is not an issue what am i getting my self into? my car right now has to be taken to the lift by trailer cause i literaly dont have any breaks whats so ever.
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Old 11-15-2003, 09:21 PM   #2
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i'd say it's a pretty big job, maybe not so hard if you use braided lines, but a pain in the *** if your having teo bend hard line....but i consider most things a pain in the ***...
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it will be just like doin fuel lines a 4 hr job at least
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big pain in the *** job, but not hard to do and on a lift would be a piece of cake
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Old 11-15-2003, 09:56 PM   #5
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yeah ill have help also i wont be alone and il have alot of tools to use 4 hours is not bad to be at all. atleast i will no it will last
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Old 11-15-2003, 11:00 PM   #6
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Good luck with the front lines, they go underneath the motor and along the crossmember. Kind of hard to get to unless the motor's out. The back ones aren't too bad though, fairly easy to get at.
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Old 11-16-2003, 03:32 AM   #7
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Are there any kits to replace the brake lines in our cars? I was looking at getting my brake lines replaced before I do a flush and was wondering where and what brand to get.
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There's a place that has pre-bent lines for resto stuff. I can't remember their name, but they advertise in the back of CHP and the other big car mags. I don't have one handy, but I'll post it up tomorrow.
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Classic Industries has a front to rear hard line for our cars in both standard and a stainless steel. $50 for the standard - $70 for the SS IIRC. Pre-bent with the right adapters on it - definately worth the money to save the hassle IMO. dunno about the fronts - don't see it on their page

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Old 11-17-2003, 01:01 AM   #10
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I have decided to leave my hard lines alone. I just wanna replace the brake hoses. Do you have any reccomendations or part number and brands that I should use? 1989 firebird 305 V8 automatic, all stock. rear drum brakes.
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Percy's makes some braided stainless lines. They're kind of pricy, but they'll last a long time and they shorten your stopping distance. You can get them from summit.
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Old 11-17-2003, 03:24 AM   #12
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I was at summit and I saw that they sell bulk brake/fuel stainless steal hard line fairly cheap. I was thinking that the hard lines would be 100 dollars. But I guess with this set-up, you would have to fabricate the bends and what not. How hard of a job is this? What size and lenght would I need for the entire car? Below is a pic. Do you think it would be cheaper to go this route with the hard linesl, or buy a set that is already bent and everything? I am looking at cheap here.



Here are some of the different part numbers.

SUM-220214

SUM-220236

SUM-220238

SUM-220256

Also, I didn't find anything on Percy's brake line hoses. I even checked the manufacturing listing for the company and nothing came up indicating that they made brake line hoses. Do you gotta part number or anything? This was at summit.
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Old 11-17-2003, 02:07 PM   #13
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Sorry, they're Earl's, not Percy's. P/n is EAR-28A180 for front discs, EAR-28A190 for 4 wheel discs. Buying the bulk line is definitely cheaper, however it will be time consuming making all the bends, but if you have a lift and some help it shouldn't be too bad.
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Old 11-18-2003, 07:23 PM   #14
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http://www.classictube.com also sells them. Biggest "pain" will be the front-to-rear brake line; you'll have to move some brackets and yank the crossmember (I think) to get the line out. I swapped it out when I went to rear discs. (The '84 prop valve I used took the rear line from the "front" of the valve, as opposed to my '86 line which took the rear port from the "bottom" of the valve- so I put a front-to-rear line into my car from an '84 f-body.)
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I was at summit and I saw that they sell bulk brake/fuel stainless steal hard line fairly cheap.
You'll also need to flare the ends; 84-up used metric ISO "bubble flares". That basically means a more expensive tool; and you'll need to find the fittings. (I couldn't find them locally; but wound up finding them on pre-flared sections of brake line at Pep Boys. Paid $5 a line to get two fittings.) Look to places like http://www.toolparadise.com or similar for an ISO bubble flaring tool. Eastwoodcompany.com also has one.
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I just replaced all my lines with the kit from Classic and put on Goodridge Lines to finsih it off.
The lines were next to perfect, just some minor bending to get them exact.
My engine is not in the car so it made the job easier.
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You'll also need to flare the ends; 84-up used metric ISO "bubble flares". That basically means a more expensive tool; and you'll need to find the fittings. (I couldn't find them locally; but wound up finding them on pre-flared sections of brake line at Pep Boys. Paid $5 a line to get two fittings.) Look to places like http://www.toolparadise.com or similar for an ISO bubble flaring tool. Eastwoodcompany.com also has one.
double flare not bubble
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double flare not bubble
no, he was correct - 6mm line with a bubble flare fitting on each end.

You find ISO bubble flares on metric lines
You find double flares on SAE sized lines

I recently went through the nightmare of locating proper brake line for my 1991 Z.
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Old 03-15-2004, 09:45 PM   #19
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you can get a set of already bent lines from www.inlinetube.com... save yourself ALOT of work and they are all stainless steel, factory bent lines...
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