Do I have 1LE brakes?

[Alexcoqui]

My brakes are busted & I took the car to Tire Kingdom. So the mechanic calls me back & tells me that my car dosnt have the regular brake sistem, that its been altered. Then he calls me back & tells me that he found out that what my car has is a special package that consists on Corvette brakes. Im like what? Do you meen 1LE? But he has no idea. & that has me woried. I looked at the calipers & here are the numbers. Front: PBR #4281 444 #4811 893 Made in Autralia. Back: BTR S #K332-071C 5 NEED HELP!

[RB83L69]

Looks like you might....

About the only thing that would be an issue as far as they are concerned, is that the parts will cost alot more than they would otherwise.

What are they planning on replacing?

[Spdfrk1990]

If you have front pbr's and dual piston you have the 1le's

[ebmiller88]

Get that car away from Tire Kingdom ASAP and talk to us before you pay to have ANY work done on your brakes there. We can help you out and save you a LOT of money.

If they look like this, you have 1LEs:




Ed

[vsixtoy]

Originally posted by Alexcoqui
My brakes are busted & I took the car to Tire Kingdom.
So the mechanic calls me back & tells me that my car dosnt have the regular brake sistem, that its been altered. Then he calls me back & tells me that he found out that what my car has is a special package that consists on Corvette brakes. Im like what? Do you meen 1LE? But he has no idea. & that has me woried.

I looked at the calipers & here are the numbers.

Front: PBR #4281 444 #4811 893 Made in Autralia.

Back: BTR S #K332-071C 5

NEED HELP!

Call him back and tell him he should be the expert and know that the car has the "Performance Package" brake system from GM as a factory option. This is very common for these cars and if he where the "expert" you trusted to take your car to, then he would know that without you telling him.

[Alexcoqui]

I went to get my car back & is safe at home. Dont want to do nothing in a hurry.
Im going to look at my brakes now to see if they look like the ones on the pic.
thanks for the quick reply.

[Alexcoqui]

by the way they say I need new rotors & pads all way round & front calipers.
I knew about the rotors & pads & how can I tell if my calipers are bad?

[Alexcoqui]

Ed, the picture you showd me looks like my front brakes but the back ones are smaller.
so if I have 1le suspentin that meens the previous owner put them on. Right?

[ebmiller88]

The rears arent' gonna look like the fronts, they'll look like this. Click the link in my sig for more pics and stuff:

[DeWynter]

The rear brakes are the same as all 89 and on disks. Aluminum calipers with I think 11.7 inch rotors.

[Alexcoqui]

So how do I have 1LEs on my car, they didnt come on the 305s right?
& where would be the best place to buy new parts for them?
I wanted to get the sloted rotors.

[Alexcoqui]

what about braded lines who has the best quality ones.
And do they need to be special 1LE lines or any 28-92 braded lines will fit?

[Apeiron]

Sure they did. You'll need lines specifically for 1LE.

[Spdfrk1990]

Yeh there were 305 5-speed 1le cars. Couldnt you order the brake package from the factory? Anyway for the hell of it check you drive shaft see if it is aluminum. If so its prolly junk so you can send it to me if you want ill trade.

[Alexcoqui]

shure just send me your carbonfiber one.

[Alexcoqui]

OK so you could get 1LE with 305, but wasnt it an option where you had to get ac delete & some other junk?

[Alexcoqui]

By the way can someone send me a pic. of the regular front brake setup?
I want to see if there is a big difrence between those & the 1LEs.

[Spdfrk1990]

The only 1le's that i know of that still had ac were the rs cop cars.

[Alexcoqui]

So that meens that if I have the 1LE package in my car is not factory?
But most important. how can I be 100% that those brakes are 1LEs.
I need to fixem as soon as posible. My GTA is my daily driver.

[Spdfrk1990]

If they look like the ones posted they are.

[Alexcoqui]

So where is the best place to get parts for them.

[Spdfrk1990]

Any auto part store has them just make sure you tell them you have the performance package thats how they list it usually not 1le.

[Alexcoqui]

OK, thanks for all the info. One more thing, who sells the 1LE sloted rotors.

[Spdfrk1990]

Im getting mine from Napa 200 for all 4 but of course i work there .

[Alexcoqui]

how much are you saving?

[Spdfrk1990]

I think around 50 dollars or a lil more. Goto www.napaautoparts.com
Its w/ performance package and hi-performance rotor its drilled and slotted.

[Spdfrk1990]

Here one of the front sides.1LE Rotor and PN#

[89 Iroc Z]

If you want to know if your car is a true 1LE or a converted 1LE check the RPO codes

[red87iroc]

Alex,

Take a ruler (tape measure) and measure across the widest part of your rotor. If I recall correctly (and I will be corrected if not), standard rotors are apporximately 11"+ in diameter, and 1LE rotors are approximately 12"+ in diameter.


Also, if you are able to remove the rotors, take one of the fronts and one of the rears to the parts store when you go to get new rotors, so you can be sure your new rotors are the same diameter as the originals, and the rest of the parts you are getting are also correct. It would also be wise to take a set of your old front and rear pads also so you can be sure those are correct as well. Trust me, you parts counterperson will be glad you did this.

The most common thing that occurs when calipers go bad is that they hang up, which causes the inside brake pad to wear faster than the outside one. Look at the brake pads on the car now, and see if they are all the same thickness. If they are, you calipers are probably okay unless the boot/seal is torn, or if they are leaking fluid. When you install new pads/rotors, you should install new pins(bolts) and o-rings as well.

[Alexcoqui]

Red, thanks for all that good info. I tried measuring the rotors but I cant get an eaven number. Is somewhat more than 11 and less than 12 inches.
About the calipers, my front rotors are eaten from the back so that means my calipers are mest up like you said.
& Im positive that they are 1LEs because Ive been looking at regular front calipers & they look noting like mine. Mine have the 2 pistons like the one ed shoud me. and mine are way biger than what Ive seen around. In fact my back calipers look like the front ones from the regular setup.
About my RPO code sheet, what hapend is that when I got the car the center console was all nasty so I took it out & put a new one from Year One & my wife threw the old one away witout asking me. Since I didnt know a lot about my car at the time I never got to understand what it said when I had it & now that I do its gone.
I gues I could call Pontiac Historic Services or whaterver is called to get them, but my car couldnt be a real 1LE. Its got A/C & its a 305 automatic, I dont think it would had hapened.

[Spdfrk1990]

Yeh 1LE's are almost 12 but not quite. Heres mine they'll soom be red with the drilled and slotted rotors and earls lines.

[Alexcoqui]

Let me ask you something how come your rotors aint all oxidated, can you paint them & is there a special paint to do these.

[Spdfrk1990]

I painted them with aluminum hi heat header paint. Paint everywhere the pads dont hit and dont paint where the bearings go of course.

[Apeiron]

Originally posted by Alexcoqui
my car couldnt be a real 1LE. Its got A/C & its a 305 automatic

If your car had been a police car with the B4C package, it could have A/C and 1LE.

[Spdfrk1990]

But doesnt he had a GTA i never heard of any b4c GTA's .

[Alexcoqui]

Damn, a GTA cop car. That was a cool cop.

[Alexcoqui]

Spdfrk1990,
Does Napa has the 1LE claipers.

[Spdfrk1990]

Yes they do

[ebmiller88]

Alex, if you need another set of 1LE calipers, get in touch with me and we can work something out...I have a brand new set in the shop. See what prices you get and then contact me, glad to help.


Ed

[Alexcoqui]

Cool!

Hey Spdfrk1990,

thanks for all your help.

[Spdfrk1990]

Anytime yeh ide call around tho and see who has the best prices.

[Alexcoqui]

Ed,
Let me know how mush you want for both of them, those are the only components I need to finish this new project.
You know how you told me about those rotors that I posted, well I kind of bought them before reading your reply. & yes now that i think about it you might be righr, if it sounds to good to be true...
But whats done its done. & as long as they las for a couple of month. till I get to fill my pockets some more.
For now I just want to get my car on the road again. You know I had just finished puting the intake back on the engine. I ported & polished from the intake manifold to de plenum. It sound awesome!!!!! but thats all I know.

[ebmiller88]

Sent you a PM, Alex.

Ed

[Alexcoqui]

Heres a pic. of the front brakes for you guys to see.

[Apeiron]

Those are 1LEs alright.

[ebmiller88]

Yep!

Ed

[Spdfrk1990]

Yup ide get new calipers,ceramix pads and new rotors and bearings. Napa and timiken or however u spell it both use Bearing 3 & 6 at napa its br3 & br6. The seals are the same if you want the earls Steel braided hoses goto Spohn they are 95 for all 5 hoses.

[89 Iroc Z]

Originally posted by Spdfrk1990
Yup ide get new calipers,ceramix pads and new rotors and bearings.

I wouldn't get ceramix pads, they don't work well untill they heat up.

[Spdfrk1990]

Thats wrong maybe if you use cheap ceramix. Napa makes real good ceramix and they work great. Shortest stopping distance of any autostore pads.

[robertg]

alex.....

here's a couple napa part numbers for you for brake pads. these are for front pads. please note that prices may vary. these prices are from napaonline.com

CMX7300 - cost you $129. these are the ceramix pads, best thing napa has. minimal to no dusting. lifetime guarantee.

AE7300M - cost you $129. metallic pad. good quiet braking with a lifetime guarantee.

SS7300M - cost $79.99. Mid-grade metallic pad. carries a 2 year warranty.

TS7300M - cost $19.99. Bare economy brake pad. carries a 1 year warranty.

i myself would go with the AE or the SS pads.

best of luck.