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KagA152 · 08-17-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nape

You've got a PM, Ed.

uh oh tj, whatd you hit?

nape · 08-17-2006, 01:49 AM

Lately, it's been more like "What haven't I hit?"

I caved in the right side of the car via a tire wall at Mid-Ohio in early July with NASA OH/IN then I was running the Driving Concepts racing school at Autobahn CC with NASA Midwest two weeks later and clipped a Miata.

After that hell of a month, I'm getting the budget back in order, getting some decent brakes on the car, pound it straight for the last time, and take it to Road America in October to go through the DCI school again. At least it's a track whore that's painted in Rustoleum flat black, so the body work can be done with a rubber mallet and a 2x4

I've already started on next year's AI car... hopefully it'll open a lot of eyes next year

nape · 08-20-2006, 10:40 PM

Ed, any chance you've had a chance to check your PMs? Just wondering

scooter · 08-22-2006, 04:29 PM

36ASedan, how did you bed your rotors? I also PM'ed you but maybe you didnt get the email notofication, I havent been getting them either

KagA152 · 08-22-2006, 07:14 PM

that sucks. hopefully ill be up there in the achieva doing hpde

36ASedan · 08-23-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scooter

36ASedan, how did you bed your rotors? I also PM'ed you but maybe you didnt get the email notofication, I havent been getting them either

I've always tried my best to allow for a smooth, slow temperature rise getting the brakes very hot the first session out with them. I'll usually block of my cooling ducts to help with this. Once I get them hot, I return to the paddock without using the brakes and let them cool as much as possible. I believe I did not do a very good job with this on the first set of pads and it had a very negative impact.

Hope this helps.
-Jeff

88305tpiT/A · 09-11-2006, 11:27 AM

Hey Ed,

This setup looks awesome. I sent you a PM concerning a kit but had an additional question I thought I should post in the thread.

Would this caliper neccessitate a master cylinder change if one was converting from a stock disk/drum setup?

Thanks and keep up the good work!

ebmiller88 · 09-12-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 88305tpiT/A

Hey Ed,

This setup looks awesome. I sent you a PM concerning a kit but had an additional question I thought I should post in the thread.

Would this caliper neccessitate a master cylinder change if one was converting from a stock disk/drum setup?

Thanks and keep up the good work!

I'll get back you your PM today probably...the stock master should be fine as is, the drum master should be OK. These calipers can be purchased with varying piston diameters so they can be tailored to fit your specific needs if you feel the need.

Ed

88305tpiT/A · 09-21-2006, 08:08 AM

My PM mustve gotten lost in the piles you get.

I will send another.

head · 10-04-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ebmiller88

I've had a few inquiries on them and am working on one of these setups right now, only difference from your setup is that this one has stainless steel brackets. Other than that, nothing. I'm a bit suprised considering the braking power they offer for the GTA wheels.

Ed

Hey Ed, Whats the status with the stainless brackets ?

ebmiller88 · 10-17-2006, 08:46 PM

I working on getting the stainless brackets done, I'll post up when they're ready.

Ed

gtadudeoh · 10-31-2006, 08:09 PM

Ed
I'm running an '88 gta. ws6 suspension. Do you have a kit available and ready? Is it for all four wheels?

ebmiller88 · 11-18-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gtadudeoh

Ed
I'm running an '88 gta. ws6 suspension. Do you have a kit available and ready? Is it for all four wheels?

Please shoot me an e-mail for more info. This setup is just for the fronts but we can do a full rear setup for you as well, stock style brakes or Wilwoods to match these up front. I don't have one ready but can in about 2-3 weeks if you're ready, we can talk it over.

On another note, aluminum hubs from Kore3 work great with this setup. The rotors as pictured weigh a total of 14# each so along with this hub it's a very light system. These brackets are stainless and an improved design over my first set. (This set of spindles was left bare for powdercoating by the owner.) Again, zinc washing and safety wiring are standard for a race quality setup.
Take a look:

Ed

scooter · 11-19-2006, 07:56 PM

Is that 14# for the hub rotor and caliper? I am just wondering how much lighter this setup is over basically the same thing with steel hubs.
Also how will I go about bleeding this type of caliper? will i need to open both bleeders at the same time, or 1 and then the other? And if that way which one first?
Thanks Ed, I am looking forward to getting them on the car. I have Wed-Sun off so I hope I can get the front of the car assembled this weekend

ebmiller88 · 11-19-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter

Is that 14# for the hub rotor and caliper? I am just wondering how much lighter this setup is over basically the same thing with steel hubs.
Also how will I go about bleeding this type of caliper? will i need to open both bleeders at the same time, or 1 and then the other? And if that way which one first?
Thanks Ed, I am looking forward to getting them on the car. I have Wed-Sun off so I hope I can get the front of the car assembled this weekend

Hey there..14# is for the rotor and hat fully assembled and wired up. The caliper is about 3-5# tops, I can weigh one on Monday to verify. With the aluminum hubs weighing in at 2.8# each, it's a significant reduction in weight.. a cast hub in comparison weighs about 8#, again I can check them later on.

Bleeding: You'll need to bleed both sides starting with the inside piston set. I would slightly crack open both the bleeder screws....MAKE SURE YOU OPEN THE BLEEDER ONLY!!!!; not the other gold one. The bleeder is black in color. Once fluid issues from both bleeders, close the outer one, bleed the inner one and then do it in reverse.

Ed

head · 01-03-2007, 08:13 PM

Hey Ed, When you get a chance ; PM me with a price and availibility on the brackets, rotors, hubs and brake lines. I have wilwood calipers already and extra spindles.We have had discussions previously about using stainless brackets and 1le hubs. Maybe I'll switch to the aluminum ! Thanx

tpi88camaro · 01-28-2007, 03:00 PM

Hi everyone. I've read all the posts in this thread and would really like a set of the front brakes that Ed has put together. However, since I do not run on a road course or anything like that, I think that is over kill for me, or not, I don't know. Since most of you have delt with the 1LE brakes. I have a couple questions. I've got a camaro with the 10.5" brakes up front. How much of a step up are the 1LE brakes? My car is a street car with the occasional trip down the 1320.

Julie Bergman · 01-28-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tpi88camaro

Hi everyone. I've read all the posts in this thread and would really like a set of the front brakes that Ed has put together. However, since I do not run on a road course or anything like that, I think that is over kill for me, or not, I don't know. Since most of you have delt with the 1LE brakes. I have a couple questions. I've got a camaro with the 10.5" brakes up front. How much of a step up are the 1LE brakes? My car is a street car with the occasional trip down the 1320.

You cannot have overkill in brakes; especially with the amount of hp you are running. Road racers like me giggle sometimes about the "secret" we know about brakes, they are the key to being fast on track (not the 1320).

Tranny · 04-18-2007, 08:55 AM

Ed,
Please pm me on the cost of this brake package. I want to keep it as light as possible. Thanks

vernw · 04-19-2007, 12:30 AM

Is Ed still around and doing this stuff??? No replies in here, nor to my PM....

scooter · 04-19-2007, 10:10 AM

Ed is usually pretty busy, it may take him a while to get back to you.

vernw · 04-19-2007, 01:33 PM

several weeks?

scooter · 04-19-2007, 01:36 PM

Yeah I would say sometimes it took him more than 1 week sometimes 2 but not that often. I think he has a child on the way or something so that may be why he hasnt been around much. I read in another post that he had like 42 PM's at one point. Calling him may be the best bet if you have his number.

vernw · 04-19-2007, 01:41 PM

I just snet him another PM. If I don't get a response in a couple of weeks I may try calling him. Provided I can "find" a number for him LOL

ebmiller88 · 04-19-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tranny

Ed,
Please pm me on the cost of this brake package. I want to keep it as light as possible. Thanks

I still offer it, Jason Dunn up in Canada just picked one up personally. I have one on hand going to Schultzy89GTA when it's ready. Price will depend on options chosen including pads and rotor choices but I try to keep it at $1350 complete, with ARP studs, safety wiring, braided lines, and zinc washed rotors standard.

Vern, I've got 28 PMs to get to by the weekend. I'm on a mini vacation with no real work or brake parts to work on so I'll get back to you and the others ASAP. I have 5 ordered kits to put together at this point in time, shipped two more this morning.

I would post my number but I'd rather not.. I'll just PM you now instead.

Ed

Schultzy89GTA · 04-19-2007, 10:43 PM

vernw · 04-20-2007, 01:06 AM

Thanks for the PM, Ed. Sent ya one back, figure we can finalize everything that way. Thanks!

nape · 05-15-2007, 01:21 AM

Ed, just as a heads up, you've got a PM in your mailbox from me. I'd like to buy one of these setups but I'd like to get it by mid-late June so I have time to put it on before July 21st/22nd (NASA Midwest @ Autobahn Country Club).

Gotta get some bigger brakes on it by then, so far it's been tracks that are easy on brakes, but I burned down the stock ones at Autobahn last year doing 20 minute sessions... this year it's 30 minute races

Thanks again.

ebmiller88 · 05-15-2007, 02:08 PM

Thank you..I'll get back to you as soon as I can.

Ed

GTA_IN_T.O · 05-16-2007, 01:05 PM

so where are the reviews??? is anyone running this front kit on their GTA with stock rims, would be interesting to hear some feedback.

vernw · 05-16-2007, 01:11 PM

Mine is on order, will be installed hopefully in the next 3 - 4 weeks.....

nape · 05-16-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GTA_IN_T.O

so where are the reviews??? is anyone running this front kit on their GTA with stock rims, would be interesting to hear some feedback.

Read 36ASedan's posts from page 3. There's the only review so far.

scooter · 05-18-2007, 12:03 PM

My car still sits in the driveway unfortunately. I have a few more things to finish up before I can drive the car. Most of my holdup has been the weather and mosquitos.....

scooter · 06-11-2007, 11:52 AM

I dont know what to say except wow

. I finally got the car out this weekend. When I did the bleeding I had a really good pedal feel, but my booster was leaking. Got the booster changed but I have a little more travel in the brakes than I would like, but i think I need to go back and bleed again. I have yet to really get a good assesment of the brakes since the car still has a lot of parts in it and everything kept sliding around when I would brake a little hard.
Some a-hole on my friends street thought i was speeding and threw a bottle at my car and I did a panic stop, wound up locking the brakes and left 20 feet of rubber with no problem on 275- 40-17's. May have a little bias problem but I dont know which way yet. I will post back here once I really get to use the brakes.

luke4907 · 06-11-2007, 04:58 PM

Maybe someone here can answer this without me having to bother Ed about it... would this brake setup work with front GTA wheels, no spacers, and a set of dropped spindles? Let me know, thanks

Dr G · 06-11-2007, 05:29 PM

Yep, it will fit the stock wheels, no spacers regardless of the ride height. All the info regarding this is in the rest of the thread. I've never read a bad thing about Ed Miller or his products and would happily trust any of his many setups.

scooter · 10-09-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 36ASedan

One last thing, these brakes are LOUD! I mean GT1 car loud. Once they heat up, they squeal like a REAL race brake setup. I'm sure there are things that could be done to quiet them for street use, but with race pads and everything going together dry, they howl like the race brakes I dreamed I'd have.

When you say squeal do you mean like when a regular brake pad indicator rubs on the rotor? Mine make a noise like that and I am just wondering if they are supposed to sound like that. I run these on the street (waaay overkill but they are awesome) and it is a little embarrasing how loud they are when i slowly roll up to a stop light once they have warmed up. If that is just how they are I can live with it, I will just have to brake HARD at evry stop light,

luke4907 · 10-09-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter

When you say squeal do you mean like when a regular brake pad indicator rubs on the rotor? Mine make a noise like that and I am just wondering if they are supposed to sound like that. I run these on the street (waaay overkill but they are awesome) and it is a little embarrasing how loud they are when i slowly roll up to a stop light once they have warmed up. If that is just how they are I can live with it, I will just have to brake HARD at evry stop light,

I believe this was clarified somewhere else in this thread as well. 36ASedan is running a really aggressive brake pad for road racing.

What brake pads are you running? You might want to try something a bit more street-friendly. There was even a vibration issue under braking, which was found to be rotor runout.

scooter · 10-09-2007, 05:47 PM

I am not sure which pad I am running. I bought some of the parts and Ed bought the rest, including the brake pads. I Pm'ed Ed a couple of times but he didnt get back to me on the last message

ebmiller88 · 10-10-2007, 02:56 AM

Sorry about that..I normally supply Wilwood BP-10 street pads now, with an option for Hawk HPS or more aggressive race pads when asked. You have the WW BP-10 pads, recommended for street use.

Ed
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Originally Posted by luke4907

Maybe someone here can answer this without me having to bother Ed about it... would this brake setup work with front GTA wheels, no spacers, and a set of dropped spindles? Let me know, thanks

If I haven't answered this already, yes to all the above.

Ed

engongam · 03-19-2008, 06:42 AM

PM to ed, ed is still there right?

I really loved the setups and really need one...

Dr G · 03-19-2008, 04:00 PM

I've just had one of these kits delivered from Ed Miller and am mighty impressed by the appearance. I'll post pics and finding once I have it installed. Great service and packaging as always from Ed.

engongam:- Ed is still here. Send him a PM. He make take a while to reply but that's just because he is very busy at the moment.

ebmiller88 · 03-20-2008, 04:38 PM

I'm here, albeit busy and behind. Gordon waited patiently for over a month for his Wilwood setup to finally get to the UK, and you're quite welcome Sir.

I'll try to catch up on PMs and e-mail soon.

Ed
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Originally Posted by vernw

Is Ed still around and doing this stuff??? No replies in here, nor to my PM....

Sorry Vern, I thought I got back to you. If I didn't answer all of your questions please let me know.

Ed
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Originally Posted by scooter

I am not sure which pad I am running. I bought some of the parts and Ed bought the rest, including the brake pads. I Pm'ed Ed a couple of times but he didnt get back to me on the last message

Wilwood BP-10 Smart pads, I can supply HPS in the kits as well but have gotten good feedback on the BP-10 pads.

ebmiller88 · 03-20-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by head

Hey Ed, Whats the status with the stainless brackets ?

SS brackets available as well on this setup.

Ed

Dr G · 03-20-2008, 08:02 PM

Ed, can you please keep me informed regarding progress/ideas for the rear brakes please?

luke4907 · 03-20-2008, 09:03 PM

what exactly are you looking for as far as rear brakes? I wanted to ditch my rear PBR setup (the pad area is so small!) but changed my mind when I read some of the road racers complaining of brake hop. I'm swapping my prop valve to a Wilwood adjustable unit so I can adjust the rear bias. I'm rebuilding the calipers and loading them with HPS pads. I will probably replace all the lines before my car is back on the road.

engongam · 03-31-2008, 05:11 AM

Ed, Ed!! I sent you an e mail couple of weeks ago but no answer

My car does not stop, I really need your kits

ebmiller88 · 03-31-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by engongam

Ed, Ed!! I sent you an e mail couple of weeks ago but no answer

My car does not stop, I really need your kits

I'm getting to them, sorry for the delay.

Ed

engongam · 04-20-2008, 05:03 AM

Hello again,

I sent you a pm about my arrival date to US and about my situation...
I am looking forward to get your response...

Thank you all...

jkopp36 · 10-22-2008, 11:04 PM

Hello,

I'm 36ASedan, fubar'd that login, but wanted to follow up after a few years of running Ed's brakes.

The only problem I've had with the kit was spitting the right front bearings out at the National race at HPT on Labor Day. Completely my fault. The kit has been so foolproof that I haven't checked the bearings since installing it. Turns out, road racing requires a little attention to the wheel bearings

. Lessoned learned.

I'm still running Mintex pads. The shiznit! With minimal cooling, I haven't had brake fade.

I started 11th at this years Runoffs and finished 9th. All with Ed's brakes at a fraction of the cost of some of the other kits out there.

Ed tells me he has some new forged hubs coming soon. I've asked him to sign me up.

Race on!

-Jeff