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Old 01-21-2009, 01:22 AM   #1
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LT1 rear, e-brake question

I own a 89 iroc with the stock rearend and drum brakes, Just purchased a 95 LT1 rear end with disc brakes. I have searched on here about the two different size e-brake cables that you can buy from a 90-92 camaro(4-wheel discs). Everyone seems to be using the first design 1434 mm cables. Neither autozone nor advance could order me the first design, and was wondering if anyone has used the longer cables? will they work? or will they be too long?


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Everyone seems to be using the first design 1434 mm cables. Neither autozone nor advance could order me the first design, and was wondering if anyone has used the longer cables? will they work? or will they be too long?
I ordered mine from CarQuest (P/N BRK 8788, 1st design, 1434 mm). RockAuto shows the 1st design available in 90, 91, and 92 cars. The second design (1460 mm) in 91 and 92. This longer cable was designed for cars with no adjustment provision, as Ed Miller mentions below.

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Re: LT1 rear, e-brake question

Dan, same situation here. Same car same 95 rear end. If you have replaced your rearend already did you run into the problem w/ the P-valve and brake booster needing to be replaced w/ a 4-disc version? If so which booster and p-valve did you go with? Can't figure out for sure which to order? thanks steve. swg74@cox.net
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Early and late (IE, first and second design) cables will depend on which style of center brake cable you have coming off the pull lever. If you have the adjustable one pictured below you need the first design. If you have the pull cable with no adjustment provision, you need the second design.



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Dan, same situation here. Same car same 95 rear end. If you have replaced your rearend already did you run into the problem w/ the P-valve and brake booster needing to be replaced w/ a 4-disc version? If so which booster and p-valve did you go with? Can't figure out for sure which to order? thanks steve. swg74@cox.net
Same stock disc/drums then so you can keep the stock master/booster as it's correct and you can either install a disc prop or an adjustable one. If you guys can't get cables PM me, I have both on hand.

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Dan, same situation here. Same car same 95 rear end. If you have replaced your rearend already did you run into the problem w/ the P-valve and brake booster needing to be replaced w/ a 4-disc version? If so which booster and p-valve did you go with? Can't figure out for sure which to order? thanks steve. swg74@cox.net
Steve, I haven't put my rear end in yet but I think I might do it this weekend, I'll let you know how the drum brake proportioning valve works. Seems like some people change it and some don't, I guess its just personal preference. i'll keep you updated on how everything goes.

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Re: LT1 rear, e-brake question

well here is just an update, I called carquest today and they said they dont have any at their store or any other stores nor does any of their warehouses have any. So I ended up calling Napa and they had them stocked in Illinois, they should be in next week sometime. Thanks to everyone for the help!

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Hi Dan, anymore updates on this project yet?
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lol I forgot all about this thread! Ok I got the rear end in, I bought the shorter cables from napa. The cables work great though they are a little tight. I've driven it since February and the brakes are awesome! I am still using the drum brake prop valve and it works great. I might upgrade to the disk prop valve later on down the road to see if there is any difference.
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I am still using the drum brake prop valve and it works great.
For the best brake performance, use the appropriate valve. If only one proportioning valve was needed, why design two?

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yeah I thought I saw somewhere that the 1989 drum brake proportioning valve was the same as the disk valve. But idk I very well could be wrong though
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Dan, are you pleased with the wheel setup. could you post some photos, i am interested to see how far the wheels stick out.

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yeah I thought I saw somewhere that the 1989 drum brake proportioning valve was the same as the disk valve. But idk I very well could be wrong though
Different part numbers.

A search should provide pics of the fourgen rear.

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Early and late (IE, first and second design) cables will depend on which style of center brake cable you have coming off the pull lever. If you have the adjustable one pictured below you need the first design. If you have the pull cable with no adjustment provision, you need the second design.



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Same stock disc/drums then so you can keep the stock master/booster as it's correct and you can either install a disc prop or an adjustable one. If you guys can't get cables PM me, I have both on hand.

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Im looking for a set of E brake cables that fit a 1990 Iroc. Can someone help me
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Im looking for a set of E brake cables that fit a 1990 Iroc. I have 4 way disk brakes. Camaro World want's 800.00 for the original set that came with that year, not a option for me at that price. Plus they have much attitude. Can someone help me!
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Im looking for a set of E brake cables that fit a 1990 Iroc. I have 4 way disk brakes.
Check with auto parts stores or RockAuto (they had them the last time I checked). See post #2 for the part you need.

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$800???? Was they trying to sell you a whole parts car?
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Will those fit his car? I bought the proper cables for my 91' and both the sheath and cable length are incorrect, they don't work at all.
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Will those fit his car? I bought the proper cables for my 91' and both the sheath and cable length are incorrect, they don't work at all.
The first design fit my car perfectly (85 with swapped in PBR's).

If your 91 has the tunnel-mounted adjustment mechanism, the first design will fit. If your 91 doesn't have the above, the second design should fit.

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Would you have some part nombers, I called Rock Auto; but thet couldnt help me with the part no.'s

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$800???? Was they trying to sell you a whole parts car?
I'm not sure what they got going on, But they know those parts are few and far in between. I think they call that price gouging.....I'll never buy anything from them!
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Go to the following site and fill out the questions you're asked about your car and the site will provide part numbers and other info:

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I just wanted to add that Advance only lists 1 cable for the camaros. The cable they have listed is the second design.

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Re: LT1 rear, e-brake question

ok, im slightly confused, i have a 1990 camaro with drum brakes and i have a posi disk rear end from an 87 firebird formula sitting here to go into it. i believe that i understand everything except the ebrake cable thing.

I have yet to look at the ebrake cable specifically on my car, but it seems that the 87 disk brakes use a 2 cable design? and my 90 drum rear end uses a single cable? Most people i see are swapping newer rear ends into older cars, not older rear end into newer cars like i am, and i think that is the reason for my confusion.

can i just order the ebrake cable for an 87 firebird with rear disks and have it work with my ebrake lever?
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I have yet to look at the ebrake cable specifically on my car...

can i just order the ebrake cable for an 87 firebird with rear disks and have it work with my ebrake lever?
You need to take a peek. If your car is equipped with the tunnel-mounted adjustment piece (see post #4), you should be able to buy cables for an 87.

On another note, for best brake performance, you should swap out the combination valve to a standard disc-disc valve (alum block, 84 or so to 88). The problem is that the tube nut threads changed in late 89, so without some fiddling, the 84-88 valve won't fit.

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i planned on using an adjustable combination valve anyway
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I talked to you a while back about a P-valve for 89 camaro. Converted from disc/drum to disc/disc, rear end off of 95 camaro. Do you still have the P-valves available? swg74@cox.net
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Ok so I have a 1982 trans am with the adjustable set up e brake like in ed's pic. I swapped the rear to a 1995 trans am disc. I also have the park brake cables from the 95. The 95 had an adjustable setup as well but the 95 cables seem really long. Do I need the part number CarQuest (P/N BRK 8788, 1st design, 1434 mm).

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[color=black][font=Verdana]Do I need the part number CarQuest (P/N BRK 8788, 1st design, 1434 mm).
Since you have the 95 cables, give them a try--who knows. The cable above is the one I used with PBR's and the tunnel-mounted adjustment.

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Re: LT1 rear, e-brake question

I tried the 95 cables they are way to long. I went to NAPA today to order the (P/N BRK 8788, 1st design, 1434 mm) but they are back ordered. They said at least a 3 week wait. It's so hard to get parts here in canada.....After that wait I sure hope they work!
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